Lars Wirzenius writes (Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations
(was: PaySwarm-based donations)):
I do, however, want to repeat my point that this kind of thing is likely
to be quite divisive even outside one distro. Donations from end-users
are highly likely to go mainly to highly
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Manu Sporny wrote:
This is a highly re-worked proposal for performing upstream donations
and donations to the Debian project. Major changes include:
* Debian developers are not allowed to receive any direct monetary
contribution or change the
: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
To: Manu Sporny mspo...@digitalbazaar.com
Cc: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was:
PaySwarm-based donations)
Le Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Manu Sporny a écrit
that?
- Original Message -
From: Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was:
PaySwarm-based donations)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Manu Sporny wrote
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 07:53:42AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
Donations from end-users are highly likely to go mainly to highly
visible projects, such as Firefox/Iceweasel and LibreOffice.
But doesn't this problem already exist with the status quo?
Let's assume that Firefox, LibreOffice,
that.
- Original Message -
From: Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was:
PaySwarm-based donations)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 07:53:42AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
More seriously, you really can't understate how much the project felt
generally burned by the huge Dunc-Tank controversy. I was one of the
people who thought it was a decent idea at the time, but the outcome was
far more disruptive than I think it was worth. I
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi wrote:
I do, however, want to repeat my point that this kind of thing is likely
to be quite divisive even outside one distro. Donations from end-users
are highly likely to go mainly to highly visible projects, such as
Scott Howard dijo [Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:01:27AM -0400]:
The donate mechanism probably could be extended to increase donation
awareness of important libraries/tools since apt knows what is really
needed for each package even if end users may not.
Maybe something can be done like:
$ donate
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:35:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
waiting to happen.
While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing to
build this system to help aid Debian.
Cheers,
Paul
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:38:08PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:35:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
waiting to happen.
While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing to
build
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 01:38:08 PM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:35:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
waiting to happen.
While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing to
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:45:49PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Personally, economic incentives have very little to do with why I work on
Debian. Fundamentally, if I was here for the money, Debian couldn't afford
me.
Ditto, that's not the issue here - this wouldn't be funding
On Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing to
build this system to help aid Debian.
While I agree that we should not mock those, I absolutly do think we should
block those
Once motivation is destroyed, it's
Venture Communism venturecommun...@yahoo.com writes:
So let's get this straight.
Step 1) Ask APT people if it belongs in APT
Get told to go to debian-project list
Step 2) Ask debian-project list if can put in APT
Get told doesn't belong in APT
Step 3) Fix proposal so it's not in APT,
This is a highly re-worked proposal for performing upstream donations
and donations to the Debian project. Major changes include:
* Debian developers are not allowed to receive any direct monetary
contribution or change the upstream DONATE file in any way.
* The solution isn't specific to apt.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
* Debian developers are not allowed to receive any direct monetary
contribution or change the upstream DONATE file in any way.
There are definitely situations where not updating the DONATE file is
a bad idea; when upstream is dead and the
list
- Original Message -
From: Paul Wise p...@debian.org
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was:
PaySwarm-based donations)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Manu Sporny wrote
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
Does this sound like a workable solution?
I think you should take this to the FreeDesktop lists, Debian is just
one distro and we certainly can't set cross-distro upstream standards.
I would also encourage
Venture Communism venturecommun...@yahoo.com writes:
So let's get this straight.
Step 1) Ask APT people if it belongs in APT
Get told to go to debian-project list
Step 2) Ask debian-project list if can put in APT
Get told doesn't belong in APT
Step 3) Fix proposal so it's not in APT,
Le Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Manu Sporny a écrit :
This is a highly re-worked proposal for performing upstream donations
and donations to the Debian project. Major changes include:
* Debian developers are not allowed to receive any direct monetary
contribution or change the
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