Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?

2022-11-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
of disciplinary process, please just go ahead and do it, don't beat about the bush. Anyone who wants to put their name to explicitly racist, sexist and pro-nazi material in Debian is free to re-upload it. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am

Re: Question about contributing to debian financially.

2022-11-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
uot;maintainers team" which I take to mean any package maintainer. -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org  https://jmtd.net

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-09-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:36:34AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Other early steps should include establishing a sub-project/group to coordinate discussion and actions around the issue. I still think this. Perhaps starting with a dedicated mailing list; debian-sustainability or debian-climate

Re: long-standing bugs and tar pits

2022-09-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
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Re: long-standing bugs and tar pits (was: Are users of Debian software members of the Debian community?)

2022-09-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
s yourself, pop up from time to time, so we can know that you are still around. I hope life is treating you well. -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org  https://jmtd.net

Re: How do you manage debian mails on your mailbox?

2022-08-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
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Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
is committed to making this happen. Makes sense to me. -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org  https://jmtd.net

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

2022-04-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
delegated responsibility to do this? -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org  https://jmtd.net

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

2022-04-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
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Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
hat in the wake of the init system decision. And in my opinion, your more recent mailing lists contributions to Debian have not been as valuable as ones from the past: case in point, this thread. We're raking over old coals here, and it's not helping you, or Debian. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ J

Re: Planet Debian revisions

2019-01-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
verloading it a bit too much. I'm not sure that would necessarily be helpful. The URI (being externally managed) would not be guaranteed to continue to serve the same content at a later date. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
arrassment team. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-12 Thread Jonathan Dowland
s. Having said that, I appreciate the robust discussion in this thread and there's definitely more refinement to do. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
, if we so wish? -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
The former can be inferred from the wiki page history. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 09:16:21AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > To that end I sat down just now to create it. Unfortunately wiki.d.o appears > to have died whilst I was doing so. Here's the wiki page : https://wiki.debian.org/RegisterOfInterests

Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ian. > > || '''User''' || '''Interest''' || '''From''' || '''Until''' || > || JonDowland || Red Hat || 2015 || - || -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC

2017-04-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
ing your own planet. Such a thing could even be linked to from p.d.o or elsewhere in the Debian-web. So far nobody has opted to do so. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Doubt.

2015-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hello, On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:08:04AM -0300, Daniel Lucena wrote: I would like know if between download images of Debian 8 (after became stable) the Mate Desktop Environment will be available or i need install Debian NetInstall and after install Mate packages with aptitude? This type of

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 03:49:28PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 14/10/2014 11:58 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Isn't the point of posting on debian-devel-announce to increase the visibility and liklihood of seconds in the first place? Not if you want to help avoid the GR having a chance

The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
document it as a should in policy, although there may not yet be an appropriate section to do so. Does anyone have strong feelings on this? -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

2014-09-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:03:07PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: Why do you believe repacking upstream tarball should be the default behavior (especially when, as already pointed before, “You *should* upload packages with a pristine source tarball if possible”)? I don't suppose I'll have much

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:27:58AM -0400, David Prévot wrote: On the other hand, it defeats the principle of least surprise. Distributing a different upstream tarball in Debian than upstream, just because, seems plain wrong. Even the dev-ref agrees: “You *should* upload packages with a

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

2014-09-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 04:51:19PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Just for the sake of interest: Is there any reason not to use uscan? (I hope the answer will not be since I need to remove files from upstream source.) This wouldn't help those not using uscan, of which I am one, but what about

Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

2014-05-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 01:27:44AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Nothing says a pure blend couldn't have its own public identity, and if they were a pure blend, I would have no concern about the expenditure. But since it's a derivative rather than a pure blend, how do we know that in /this/

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 5 Apr 2014, at 00:18, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Well, please enlighten me here: Without fully auditing the Javascript code you are using to do the crypto client-side, can you *really* be certain your private half has not travelled to Keybase? The client side crypto stuff can't

keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
keybase.io is a thing. This thing lets you, amongst other things, upload a copy of your PGP private key to their servers. This is client-side encrypted. Discuss. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 11:07:17PM -0800, Nikolaus Rath wrote: Consequently, any GR about init-related issues would now need to explicity state that it upholds the CTTE's decision for the default init system. Lacking that, passing of the GR would, as a *side-effect* nullify the CT decision

Re: Spam fighting in -ctte mailing list....

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/03/msg00064.html Some are of no use without the context of the crap. Some are of no use anyway. Others are less clear. -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:28:39PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Personally I think it would bring some much needed transparency to what is becoming one of the more essential Debian communication channels to be on. Just like we archive mailing lists and record DebConf talks/BoFs, we should publicly

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Op dinsdag 25 februari 2014 19:02:49 schreef Lars Wirzenius: I would prefer a culture where IRC discussions are ephemeral, and any useful information should end up in debian/changelog, mailing lists, git commit messages,

Re: systemd bad press? score card?

2014-02-12 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 10/02/2014 17:26, Daniel Pocock wrote: http://www.itwire.com snip Not really objective journalism The byline alone is enough to deduce this. Let's not feed the trolls. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
This is a great email, Wouter. Thanks for your perseverance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1045392-ec03-41ee-b50f-f43b57282...@debian.org

Re: Proposed MBF - mentions of the word Ubuntu

2013-11-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:56:37PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Seems as though Joey is already taking the lead on this: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debmirror.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcd972395b0201fcde4915d282982926f0d04c56;hp=7fcdf0d225c480b386c5a1f487e68dc39b57e771 Urgh,

Re: Proposed MBF - mentions of the word Ubuntu

2013-11-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Joking aside, we do occasionally have high visibility, low severity bugs in this ballpark, like #666869 (which is thankfully resolved and hopefully will be backported to a stable point release) as a result of personalisation in Ubuntu leaking back downstream. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Xfce by default

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:07:33PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Can we produce a minimal netinst which does just this for a default install and adds desktop selection for an expert install. How does the current netinst not qualify? You have to select Desktop Environment on the tasksel

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-11-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
My feeling before reading this thread was that bans should be accessible to DDs somewhere but this thread has convinced me that they should be made public. I think bans should be time-limited in almost all cases, with perma-bans being very rare indeed. I don't think that ban durations should be

Re: Stepping down as a Policy Editor.

2013-11-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Thanks for your hard work! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131103140708.gd9...@bryant.redmars.org

Re: Help bringing bugs.debian.org / debbugs back on track (Re: bits from the DPL -- September 2013)

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 09:38:31AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Please don't switch bugs.debian.org away from debbugs. I don't want to have to leave the Debian project but some misguided folks doing that would be one of the triggers for that. Please don't threaten/ransom your labour to push one or

Re: Moving to stronger keys than 1024D

2013-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:21:50PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: I assume Asheesh generated the newer key to have the same ID as the older – not nice… Yes, http://www.asheesh.org/note/debian/short-key-ids-are-bad-news.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 01:37:36PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Ah, I hadn't ever thought about it from that angle. Basically, the argument is that if there's no original creative addition, it can't be a derivative work? On first glance, 17 U.S.C. § 101 appears to support that: Eek. What

Re: Revising the Code of Conduct

2013-05-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:30:08PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: The most annoying reply behaviour I see is people replying to one list rather than the multiple lists I sent the original message to. We should encourage use of Reply-to-all instead, as erring on the side of inclusion is safer

Re: 2nd draft (was: Re: Revising the Code of Conduct)

2013-05-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Thanks, Wouter. First: would it be appropriate for there to be a point about context-quoting, or inline quoting, or more precicely not either top-posting nor bottom posting with no trimming? (my phrasing is bad.) On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:52:42AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: 6. You should

Re: A Debian contributor StackOverflow

2013-04-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:04:12AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I wonder if just using the same forum is a good idea, or if it would be better to create a separate contributor-focused platform. One thing I find attractive about using the platform for both is to perhaps help encourage/promote the