Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

tement (which will sit in d-d-a unknown to n-m applicants a few years from now). Cheers -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . https://upsilon.cc/zack _. ^ ._ Full professor of Computer Science o o o \/|V|\/ Télécom Paris, Polytechnic Institute of Paris o o o

Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions

der knowledge. Links: - service: https://sources.debian.org/ - code: https://salsa.debian.org/qa/debsources - bugs: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;include=subject%3Adebsources;package=qa.debian.org Hope this helps and thanks again ! Cheers -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@ups

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

ast) of a different nature. No need to threaten resignation about this, I'm sure your work as listmaster is still very much appreciated in the project (and certainly it is appreciated by me). Cheers -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Profess

Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports

act, also my preferred solution for browsing my family ledger books.) Cheers PS if, OTOH, you want to give it a try locally: apt install ledger2beancount python3-fava -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage

Re: metaphors and feminism

.g., https://contributors.debian.org . Cheers -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader & OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tauto

Debian contributors survey - preliminary analysis available

participated in the survey.) The above is just a preliminary analysis, with no discoursive commentary yet, but it gives a statistical overview of the entire response set, as well as drilling down into the specific sub-group of (uploading) Debian Developers. Enjoy! -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

nds like a great solution. ] Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

opular yet [*] together with making sure that any DD can commit to any public repo on alioth -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . OSI Board Direct

[fwd: call for participation - Debian contributors survey, 1st ed.]

This was originally posted to debian-devel-announce minutes ago. I'm forwarding it to debian-project in order to reach out to non-Debian-Developers contributors. Cheers. - Forwarded message from Stefano Zacchiroli <z...@debian.org> - TL;DR: all Debian contributors --- from bug rep

Re: Publicly-readable list for only DDs and DMs to post to

el. Plus, I love having data to base decisions on. And we currently have no idea of how such a list would work out. Let's just try it as an experiment and see how it goes. I won't have time/energy to push for this idea more than this. But if you were in need of gentle encouragement... here you go :-) C

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

On July 7, 2016 4:48:19 PM GMT+02:00, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >Point is; only "Developers" (the term our constitution uses) are >supposed to ever have been subscribed to d-private. JFTR: the Constitution uses both "developers" and "members", interchangeably. -- Sent

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

bian's lawyer "transitively", via the services that they offer to SPI's affiliated projects. It might be the case that SPI's pay legal services to SFLC, but I really don't know. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférence

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

current campaign for individual memberships would be a very useful thing to do. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . . o o o . . . o .

Re: Software Freedom Conservancy needs our cash

to Debian per year. > > What does "forfait" mean? Oops, sorry. I realized too late the expression doesn't work in English :) It means we pay that sum per year, and we have pre-allocated to us a given amount of lawyer hours each year. If we use more, the difference is bil

Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:20:38PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: - get.debian.org I think it's a cool name, and my clear favourite thus far. :-) FWIW, same here. It's a verb, short, straight to the point, and memorable. I don't see the point of looking elsewhere :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2015: Call for nominations

, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

will in the end have to be split among implementing those plans and tending to often unpredictable day by day duties, with the latter often dominating the DPL agenda (IME). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

this very important topic! Hope the above helps, -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology

Re: Alternative proposal (+call for seconds): Expire 2-R members every year

in volunteer organizations where we are all peers. This is why I'm convinced that an automatic, non-optional expiry method would actually be a plus, rather than a hindrance. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http

Re: GR proposal, Call for Seconds - term limit for the tech-ctte

if the converse interpretation were to be in effect, the ctte and the DPL can route around that by doing the removal first and then a fresh appointment. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o

Re: GR proposal, Call for Seconds - term limit for the tech-ctte

Debian reinforces those arguments. More importantly, it doesn't seem to me we're near having a concrete GR proposal for electing ctte members. So IMO it would be best to disentangle this discussion from the term limit GR proposal. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc

GR proposal, Call for Seconds - term limit for the tech-ctte

#00054 Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule

Re: Can I still depend on Debian?

of internal discussions going on in the Debian Project, and how to improve their quality. All the best, -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca

Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

); any Developer may post there. Cheers, -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

it goes :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology

Re: DEP-5 (copyright file format) ... gap with practice

). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club

Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

probably benefit from it too. My 2 cents, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule

Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg01186.html https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/debian/ Keep up the good work, -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project

Re: State of the debian keyring

as possible and make sure that people *know* it is simple. Just my 0.02 EUR, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

[3]: http://meetbot.debian.net/ Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club

Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

. They're coming up on a vote, and they may even suggest a GR. This GR is premature. AOL. For both the reason I mentioned in [1] --- which clearly Guillem disagrees with --- and the reason given above by Paul. Cheers. [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00821.html -- Stefano

Re: Debian services and Debian infrastructure

of pts.d.n and possibly (depending on how difficult it'll be to set up VMs) also for fire-and-forget VMs we have used in the past as build nodes for BSPs. Just my 0.02 EUR, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http

Re: Debian real-time communication (RTC) project - SIP

is probably [3]. Cheers. [1]: http://freeyourspeech.org/do-they-federate/ [2]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/01/msg4.html [3]: https://wiki.debian.org/UnifiedCommunications/DebianDevelopers/UserGuide -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o

Re: Updating the Policy Editors delegation

wrt the Constitution. Bugs happen. But it is what we collectively believed to be a correct representation of the status quo back then and of the powers that should be delegated to the Policy editors. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de

Re: Debian services and Debian infrastructure

quoted above. But I think it is much better to centralize those requirements on a single, DPL-delegated team, than trying to replicate that to many different, de facto self-proclaimed teams. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences

Re: working with FSF on Debian Free-ness assessment

is still that we're waiting for the FSF to refine current freeness assessment into more actionable items. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader

Re: Please update the DSA delegation

that. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

something that any Internet-based community can get along without. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

to disclose ban duration. (Of course, the banned person should be made aware of the ban duration, but I'm sure that's already the case.) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

don't get a one-day ban for serious harassments. Of course. The question is: do you think disclosing ban duration will discourage bad behavior on our mailing lists more than just disclosing the bans currently in effect? (I don't.) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

Software we're distributing via infrastructures built using non-free software. That problem would exist even if the companies behind those services were big Free Software advocates, which just happen to have a single service (the CDN) built using non-free software. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

much the companies offering them advocate Free Software. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

practice. We're running in circles :-) See: https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/10/msg00058.html -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

is IMHO much worse, because to get diversity there you need to have in place, beforehand, the needed abstraction layers.) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

opinions on the idea; this is mine :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club

Re: Moving to stronger keys than 1024D

increasingly easier. Oh mighty Debian keyring maintainers and WoT gurus, what do you suggest to do in this respect? When is the right moment to retire old keys after migration to stronger ones? TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de

Re: Moving to stronger keys than 1024D

to answer these questions :) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club

Re: Paths into Debian

? :) If the chosen terminology send the wrong message, and hence it's potentially a blocker, let's change it (but better do it only *once*, hence the need of getting it right this time). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http

Re: Debian companies group

tasks to spend your volunteer time on. On the other hand, they are activities that, if pursued, would benefit the Debian ecosystem, and around which companies can expect to find sustainable business models. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître

Re: Debian companies group

becoming effective. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule

Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was: PaySwarm-based donations)

be better discussed / adopted at a cross-distro level, relying on existing standards (e.g. DOAP) if available. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader

Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations (was: Re: KickStarter for Debian packages)

/Articles/511260/ Using Debian as a conduit to *ease* donation flows to FOSS that already exist seems an useful thing to do to me. That is, after all, exactly what [2] was meant for, maybe it can be improved and become more successful adopting some of Manu's ideas. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: Debating difficult development issues in essay form

difficult to understand the positions at play, which should have one essay per position, if I understand the approach you were trying to propose properly. I haven't attempted to fix that, though. Hope this helps, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o

Re: 2nd draft (was: Re: Revising the Code of Conduct)

there, some derived from Ubuntu's, some written from scratch. I'm pretty sure we can find reusable pieces there, to be adapted to Debian's culture. (Oh, and do not hesitate to contribute to that page!) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences

Re: Debating difficult development issues in essay form

, but first I need to know if you agree with them or not :-)) Thanks again for this initiative, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca

Re: Donations to Debian are too difficult

spoken with them, so that *might* be a problem, but I don't think it would be. Just thinking out aloud, -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack

Re: A Debian contributor StackOverflow

that basic level of service is assured again, the service could also use some publicity/buzz, to actually encourage the formation of a more active support community there --- for the people who are fond of the StackOverflow-like approach. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc

Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women

conferences. So, if people want to have DebConf newbies happen again, do not worry about money, rather volunteer to help out the DebConf team to make it happen from an organization POV! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences

Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women

left-overt GSoC money) if people prefer that. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule

Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women

to the OPW earmark). Otherwise, I'll be happy to pre-approve covering up what remains on general Debian funds. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader

Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 05:00:19PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: TL;DR: we've been invited to participate into GNOME Outreach Program for Women and I'd like to accept the invitation. To maximize impact, though, we need mentors and topics to complement the current GSoC tasks. OK, so, thanks

Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women

mentors for all of them. In that case I might help with the remaining coordination part myself (but not with mentoring, sorry, I'm already taken for GSoC this year). Thanks for your help, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences

Re: [RFH] answering trademark@d.o inquiries

earlier in her career. Please let me know what I can do to help. Thanks Brian for volunteering. Brian is now behind trademark@d.o, together with leader@d.o (whoever is DPL at the time). As suggested, this is now documented at www.debian.org/intro/organization Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: Copyright assignement for Debian tools?

On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 06:51:54PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: It wouldn't make sense to assign copyright to the Debian Project, but it might make sense to assign it to some of our trusted organization, like SPI. I'm myself not aware of mechanisms offered by SPI to allow volunteer

Re: Copyright assignement for Debian tools?

debate on FOSS policies, it is well established whether this specific kind of copyright assignment is good or bad. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader

Re: Copyright assignement for Debian tools?

you can follow the discussion there. Thanks for raising this topic! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o

Re: Copyright assignement for Debian tools?

! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club

Re: Copyright assignement for Debian tools?

are due to the fact they have employees (for the orga itself or on behalf of affiliated projects), revenues from court settlement, etc. Both SPI and SFC are very transparent in their budgets, so anyone can check the actual numbers. ... here we're getting off-topic I suspect :) -- Stefano

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

are both similar and much simpler issues, as we can always rebrand-away. Hope this helps, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca

Re: trademark policy draft - redux

On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 06:26:26PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Dear all, after having postponed this for way too long, here is the second, hopefully final, iteration of the trademark policy draft. I've discussed with SPI lawyers at SFLC all the comments collected during the past

Re: authoritative list of DFSG-free licenses

-retiring :-), I'll be happy to help too. I guess the natural next step is subscribing to debian-dak@lists.d.o. Please do, everyone, if you're interested in helping with this. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

help in phases that don't require Debian membership like discussion, text drafting, etc. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca

Re: I wish you a wonderful 2013 DebConf13! (oh, and DebConf14 too)

for someone to blame, and start thinking at how to improve processes so that next time things would work better. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

Hi MJ, thanks for your feedback! On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 01:32:20PM +, MJ Ray wrote: Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote: Hold on :-) All you're discussing here already exists. FTP masters vet software that enters the archive, de facto deciding whether the associated licenses

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

review body whose ultimate decisionmakers are anything other than a self-perpetuating oligarchy. FWIW, OSI is opening up, so this might change in the future. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack

authoritative list of DFSG-free licenses

to proceed to keep track of motivation for new licenses? Is Cc:-ing -project, as you did for the Ubuntu Font License and then indexing a link to the list archives something that would work for you? If not, what would? Thanks for this enlightening pointer to related work, Cheers. -- Stefano

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

-masters. You interpreted it in the sense that they are looking for volunteers to participate in the decision process itself. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project

Re: trademark policy draft - redux

there already do). Hope this clarifies, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club

trademark policy draft - redux

[ please refer to https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/07/msg00047.html and subsequent thread for context ] On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 06:07:17PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I'm happy to attach a first complete draft of such a policy, and I'm looking for comment on it. Dear all

Re: license of http://udd.debian.org/ data collection?

to the sources creating the database, which will be under their own license. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Insider manipulation of DC13 site selection, and apparent coverup

. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

tail of small-ish companies, or funding by public administrations. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o

Re: Position statements short of a GR - DPL statements

) where to store information that at present have no good place where to live. I'd like to hear more thoughts on this matter... Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project

Re: ditching the official use logo?

improvements are appreciated, as usual. As I've forgotten to do so in the initial patch proposal, I should give credit to Ian Jackson for proposing the entirely appropriate restricted logo name, during an IRC conversation: thanks Ian! Thanks everybody for this thread, Cheers. -- Stefano

Re: ditching the official use logo?

comments, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule

DFSG-free relicensing of the Debian logo(s) - DONE

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 05:36:04PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: The actual relicensing shall be done by SPI (as copyright owner) and has not happened yet. But it should happen during the next SPI board meeting, scheduled for September 13th, 2012. The above has now happened. SPI resolution

ditching the official use logo?

into) the official logo. My impression is that that that logo is massively underused and basically unknown to most of our public out there. My personal take on it is that we should simply ditch it, focusing on a single logo (the open use one) with a DFSG-free license, that we do now have. Cheers. -- Stefano

Re: Why LGPLv3/CC-by-sa-v3.0 for the logo?

to override the decision via the appropriate Debian mechanisms. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o

Re: Why LGPLv3/CC-by-sa-v3.0 for the logo? [was: Re: bits from the DPL: August 2012]

deciding, under my sole responsibility of course, for the aforementioned licenses. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2012/08/msg00115.html Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o

Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

a separation between this and the author field (allowing to give proper credit to who worked on the application), I think it'd be better to have as contact point some role address of sort. What do you think? -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de

Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first

Re: Presentation of iso downloads - simpler like Fedora?

an installation image (the title of the section points to small, as I believe is the choice we recommend) The wording can surely be improved. Let me know if you want a bug report against www.d.o to keep track of this. Thanks for considering, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z

Re: trademark policy draft

arguments to justify the loosening of further constraints in the policy, by all means bring them forward. But please realize that I will likely turn down arguments of the I think that... kind, when they go against the legal advice we've got. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z

Re: trademark policy draft

the responsibility of acting in a way that --- according to our legal advisors --- might endanger them.. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack

Re: trademark policy draft

the logo under a better (copyright) license and 2/ defining a new trademark policy, I've also asked for a minimal patch to our *current* trademark policy that would allow the relicensing to happen in isolation. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o

Re: trademark policy draft

explicit permission. But note that this part, in most cases, is a no-op change wrt the current policy, which already restricts the usage of the debian name in domain names by others. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} . o . Maître de conférences

Re: trademark policy draft

, as nominative use is permitted by trademark law in general anyhow. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} . o . Maître de conférences .. http://upsilon.cc/zack .. . . o Debian Project Leader... @zack on identi.ca ...o o o

Re: trademark policy draft

On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 10:41:31AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: \item You can use DEBIAN trademarks to make true factual statements about DEBIAN or communicate compatibility with your product truthfully. Can I use DEBIAN trademarks to make snarky ill-supported

Re: trademark policy draft

On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 05:10:41PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 05:50:56PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: (Fearing an increase in nitpicking threshold.) Well, you can, people will, and I'm sure nobody will bother, on average. But I can imagine all sorts

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