Re: Major update of python-support

2009-03-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette matinée pluvieuse du lundi 23 février 2009, vers 10:12, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org disait : Do we need to upload a new version when there is a fix needed? In this case, I suppose we should use python-support in unstable instead of the one in experimental? Yes, it is

Re: Major update of python-support

2009-03-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 02 mars 2009 à 15:48 +0100, Vincent Bernat a écrit : I ask this because I have many packages that use unittests after the build. I add /var/lib/python-support to PYTHONPATH and launch those tests. Because the path has changed, this does not work any more. You suggest to run

Re: Developer workflow and DVCS (was: Leaving DPMT?)

2009-03-02 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net wrote: * David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com [2009-02-28 20:22:46 +0900]: I have never used stacked branches, but are you sure you can only branch the repository data related to a subset of the working tree only ? My

Re: Major update of python-support

2009-03-02 Thread Tristan Seligmann
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2009-03-02 16:21:20 +0100]: Le lundi 02 mars 2009 à 15:48 +0100, Vincent Bernat a écrit : I ask this because I have many packages that use unittests after the build. I add /var/lib/python-support to PYTHONPATH and launch those tests. Because the

Re: Developer workflow and DVCS (was: Leaving DPMT?)

2009-03-02 Thread Tristan Seligmann
* Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz [2009-03-02 11:07:25 -0500]: If you don't want the project history, then you can use lightweight checkouts, which are essentially equivalent to SVN checkouts (you get a local working copy, but no local branch or repository). Ah, so you basically only get

Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Ondrej Certik [Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:07:25 -0500]: I have never used stacked branches, but are you sure you can only branch the repository data related to a subset of the working tree only ? My understanding is that bzr stacked branches are useful to avoid downloading the whole history,

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2009-02-03 at 17:37 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: As far as I know, Git doesn't have a mechanism to create full-fledged repositories with only part of the history, referencing other remote repositories for missing data. With my Git user hat on, this is clearly a technically inferiority

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Guy Hulbert [Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:47:45 -0500]: On Mon, 2009-02-03 at 17:37 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: As far as I know, Git doesn't have a mechanism to create full-fledged repositories with only part of the history, referencing other remote repositories for missing data. With my Git

Re: Major update of python-support

2009-03-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du lundi 02 mars 2009, vers 16:21, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org disait : I ask this because I have many packages that use unittests after the build. I add /var/lib/python-support to PYTHONPATH and launch those tests. Because the path has

Re: Major update of python-support

2009-03-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du lundi 02 mars 2009, vers 16:21, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org disait : I ask this because I have many packages that use unittests after the build. I add /var/lib/python-support to PYTHONPATH and launch those tests. Because the path has

Re: Major update of python-support

2009-03-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Pendant le repas du lundi 02 mars 2009, vers 19:44, je disais: I use this snippet then (with cdbs): ifeq (,$(findstring nocheck,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS))) common-install-indep:: PYTHONPATH='debian/$(cdbs_curpkg)/$(cdbs_python_support_path)/' \ python tests/runner.py

Re: Major update of python-support

2009-03-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Pendant le repas du lundi 02 mars 2009, vers 19:57, je disais: Which can be shorten to: ifeq (,$(findstring nocheck,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS))) common-install-indep:: PYTHONPATH='debian/$(cdbs_curpkg)/$(cdbs_python_support_path)/' \ python tests/runner.py endif Which is

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 12:47:45PM -0500, Guy Hulbert wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-03 at 17:37 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: As far as I know, Git doesn't have a mechanism to create full-fledged repositories with only part of the history, referencing other remote repositories for missing data. With

Piotrek's new preferred helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2009-02-18] [...] it's time however to decide which one will be my winner - I'll decide that in next weeks (maybe months, but it will happen sooner than later Since nobody is interested in having the tools binary compatible[1] (and, to be honest, I cared about opinion of two

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org (02/03/2009): My rebuttal is that if git is technical superior to bazaar because bazaar has a mechanism to create repositories with only partial history, then bazaar is technically superior to git because git has rebasing as a first-class feature. Oh my HEAD,

Re: Developer workflow and DVCS (was: Leaving DPMT?)

2009-03-02 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net wrote: * Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz [2009-03-02 11:07:25 -0500]: If you don't want the project history, then you can use lightweight checkouts, which are essentially equivalent to SVN checkouts (you get a local

Re: Piotrek's new preferred helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote: [Piotr Ożarowski, 2009-02-18] [...] it's time however to decide which one will be my winner - I'll decide that in next weeks (maybe months, but it will happen sooner than later Since nobody is interested in having the

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi Adeodato, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es wrote: * Ondrej Certik [Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:07:25 -0500]: I have never used stacked branches, but are you sure you can only branch the repository data related to a subset of the working tree only ? My

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Ben Finney
Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org writes: PS while converting [a package using python-central to use python-support], remember to add to preinst something like these 3 lines: | if [ $1 = upgrade ] dpkg --compare-versions $2 lt 1.2.3-4; then | pycentral pkgremove python-foo | fi Why

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org writes: PS while converting [a package using python-central to use python-support], remember to add to preinst something like these 3 lines: | if [ $1 = upgrade ] dpkg --compare-versions $2 lt 1.2.3-4; then | pycentral

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2009-03-02] [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org writes: PS while converting [a package using python-central to use python-support], remember to add to preinst something like these 3 lines: | if [ $1 = upgrade ] dpkg --compare-versions $2

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 05:30:57PM -0500, Ondrej Certik wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: My rebuttal is that if git is technical superior to bazaar because bazaar has a mechanism to create repositories with only partial history, then bazaar is

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Ondrej Certik, 2009-03-03] why is the decision unfair? because *I* think it's unfair as both tools deserve to be the chosen one Ondrej: stop reading debian-devel, you see trolls everywhere already ;-P -- -=[ Piotr Ożarowski ]=- -=[ http://www.ozarowski.pl ]=- pgpaT3cZ1Nt8P.pgp

Re: Piotrek's new preferred helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:17:52 +0100 Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org napsal(a): Since nobody is interested in having the tools binary compatible[1] (and, to be honest, I cared about opinion of two guys only: Matthias voted no by not agreeing to use /usr/lib/pyshared and Joss expressed his

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (03/03/2009): [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (02/03/2009): [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Why does this not happen automatically when the package is upgraded from a version that uses python-central? how can

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Ben Finney
Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz writes: why is the decision unfair? You'll have to ask Piotr (the one making the decision, and also the one who chose that subject field), not me. -- \ “Pity the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.” —Donald | `\

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 12:39:48AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (03/03/2009): [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (02/03/2009): [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Why does this not happen automatically when the package is upgraded

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Ben Finney
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (03/03/2009): [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (02/03/2009): [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Why does [removal of links created by ‘python-central’] not happen automatically when

Re: Bzr lightweight checkout, bzr shallow branches, and git

2009-03-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es wrote: 3. Git == Git has shallow clones, created with the --depth option for git-clone. This cut-offs the history of the project past a certain point, but the result is lacking: mainly, you cannot push your changes back.