Re: Question about private modules in /usr/share

2015-04-21 Thread Potter, Tim (Cloud Services)
Hi Tianon. Thanks for the reply. On 21 Apr 2015, at 2:41 pm, Tianon Gravi admwig...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 April 2015 at 20:21, Potter, Tim (Cloud Services) timothy.pot...@hp.com wrote: It looks pretty good, but I think I have messed up something as my binary gives an import error since

Re: Question about private modules in /usr/share

2015-04-21 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Potter, Tim (Cloud Services), 2015-04-21] binary gives an import error since /usr/share/dwarf isn’t in the PYTHONPATH: # dwarf Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/dwarf, line 32, in module from dwarf import log # pylint: disable=W0611 ImportError: No module named

Re: Question about private modules in /usr/share

2015-04-21 Thread Potter, Tim (Cloud Services)
On 21 Apr 2015, at 7:01 pm, Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote: [Potter, Tim (Cloud Services), 2015-04-21] binary gives an import error since /usr/share/dwarf isn’t in the PYTHONPATH: # dwarf Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/dwarf, line 32, in module from dwarf

Question about private modules in /usr/share

2015-04-20 Thread Potter, Tim (Cloud Services)
Hi everyone. I recently filed in ITP (#782988) and had a stab at packaging the app based on the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/Python/Packaging. It looks pretty good, but I think I have messed up something as my binary gives an import error since /usr/share/dwarf isn’t in the

Re: Question about private modules in /usr/share

2015-04-20 Thread Tianon Gravi
On 20 April 2015 at 20:21, Potter, Tim (Cloud Services) timothy.pot...@hp.com wrote: It looks pretty good, but I think I have messed up something as my binary gives an import error since /usr/share/dwarf isn’t in the PYTHONPATH: # dwarf Traceback (most recent call last): File

Re: Private modules

2012-12-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 24, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: The way I interpreted Paul's comment is that it implies don't use virtualenv inside the .deb package as to be distributed by Debian e.g. system-wide python packages should not be using virtualenv environment out of the box on Debian, as that

Re: Private modules

2012-12-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On 22 December 2012 22:00, Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org wrote: 6. Make /usr/bin/program a symlink to the actual file in the private directory. It will then search in its real place. (I've seen this used by angrydd.) This (symlinking /usr/bin/program) appears to be the recommended way to deal

Re: Private modules

2012-12-23 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 04:27:46PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Dec 22, 2012, at 05:19 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Yeah, please don't use virtualenv, as much as I'd like to see a good way of using virtualenv in Debian. Can you expand on that? It should be usable to develop code, but do

Re: Private modules

2012-12-23 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 22 December 2012 23:27, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On Dec 22, 2012, at 05:19 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Yeah, please don't use virtualenv, as much as I'd like to see a good way of using virtualenv in Debian. Can you expand on that? It should be usable to develop code, but do you

Re: Private modules

2012-12-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:00:35PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote: Hello, I have a Python program (of which I am upstream) and I want to package it. However, it has some private modules and I don't know how to treat them. Section 3.1.1 of the Python Packaging Policy says they should be in /usr

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 14, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: it is fine and it is useful... as a submodule, not as a top-level module Agreed! I think I get what you're driving at now. Some applications don't put their Python code or tests in a package. In those cases, yes by all means a private

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
doesn't really explain much. I'd like to see a section early on which defines private modules, where, when, why and how they should be used, etc. On Jun 10, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Barry Warsaw, 2011-06-10] Ah, yeah. Y'know, I am personally not a fan of private modules

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Barry Warsaw, 2011-06-13] it's fine to include things like a `test` (Python) subpackage in the (Debian) package python-foo. It aligns with the Python consenting adults motto, and I think such things *can* be useful. As long as the top-level package name is unique, subpackage can't pollute

private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-10 Thread Eike Nicklas
Hi all, I just tried to package an application using a private module. In this case, the name of the script starting the application and the module have the same name. So if the module is in /usr/share/foo/foo, then the script can not be /usr/share/foo/foo as well and installing the script to

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:01 PM, Eike Nicklas wrote: I just tried to package an application using a private module. In this case, the name of the script starting the application and the module have the same name. Is the script private too? Wouldn't that be better installed in /usr/bin/foo? -Barry

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-10 Thread Eike Nicklas
Hi Barry, thanks for the quick answer. On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:34:19 -0400 Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:01 PM, Eike Nicklas wrote: I just tried to package an application using a private module. In this case, the name of the script starting the application and the module have

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-10 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Eike Nicklas, 2011-06-10] I just tried to package an application using a private module. In this case, the name of the script starting the application and the module have the same name. So if the module is in /usr/share/foo/foo, then the script can not be /usr/share/foo/foo as well and

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 10, 2011, at 09:48 PM, Eike Nicklas wrote: Then 'import foo' fails if '/usr/share/foo/foo' is not explicitly added to pythonpath (that was the idea of having the module private in the first place ;-) ) Ah, yeah. Y'know, I am personally not a fan of private modules anyway :). Note too

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-10 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Barry Warsaw, 2011-06-10] Ah, yeah. Y'know, I am personally not a fan of private modules anyway :). /me waits till Barry will try to package his 13th package with Python application that uses lib or tests module names... (or will he break after 4th? Bets anyone? ;) Note too in a setuptools

Re: private modules and dh_python2

2011-06-10 Thread Eike Nicklas
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:52:11 +0200 Piotr Ożarowski wrote: install foo to /usr/share/foo/ under a different name, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2009/03/msg00091.html Renaming is a great and simple idea, I'll do that. Thanks to all of you for the quick help, Eike

Packaging python programs (with private modules) using the current Python version and binNMU:able when that changes

2011-04-25 Thread Magnus Holmgren
, and if modules are installed in the standard location, create symlinks in the module trees of all supported Python versions, which is a bit pointless for modules used only by the application in question. AFAIU the Python policy such private modules should not be installed in the standard location

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-11 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 à 10:50 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency management, which seems to be the primary target market for

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
Bernd, please follow the Debian mailing list code of conduct URL:http://www.debian.org/MailingLists#codeofconduct, in particular by *not* sending personal copies of messages that are also sent to the list. Also, please preserve attribution lines so we can keep track of who wrote what quoted

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency management, which seems to be the primary target market for setuptools. This should, of course, read The main reason I use

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 23:56 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : Hmm. I am hoping that modify the programs [to add an absolute path to the search path] is not a necessary part of this. If upstream hasn't thought of it, it is. You only need to add one line in the program, before the module

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-02 Thread Ben Finney
(Please preserve attribution lines on quoted material. I don't know who wrote what in the following.) Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 23:56 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : Hmm. I am hoping that modify the programs [to add an absolute path to the search

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 14:42 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : 3.1.1 Programs Shipping Private Modules A program using /usr/bin/python as interpreter can come up with private Python modules. These modules should be installed in /usr/share/module, or /usr/lib/module

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
them by default, yes. I don't know what magic is required to put them elsewhere; that may be part of the answer, if someone can instruct me on how to do it. The trouble is, these are modules that clearly fall under the private modules for the program description in the policy document. I fully

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
That's where the distutils and setuptools place them by default, yes. I don't know what magic is required to put them elsewhere; that may be part of the answer, if someone can instruct me on how to do it. You shoul dupload your work somewhere, teaching you is almost impossible if one can't

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Bernd Zeimetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You shoul dupload your work somewhere, teaching you is almost impossible if one can't see what's wrong. I'm not presenting something as wrong. I'm asking for guidance on how to do things right. If the policy recommends that packages be set up a

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
If the policy recommends that packages be set up a particular way (put package-specific modules in '/usr/share/package/'), but the standard tools behave differently (put all modules by default in '/usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages/'), then there's a step that needs to be taken to get from the

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
of the answer, if someone can instruct me on how to do it. The trouble is, these are modules that clearly fall under the private modules for the program description in the policy document. I fully agree with the policy that modules intended for internal use by a discrete set of programs should

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 18:37 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : How can I use the tools available — distutils, setuptools, debhelper — to install these package-specific modules to a package-specific location, such that all the programs in the

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I best conform to the [Debian policy for Python modules specific to a single package]? As an example, here's a Python package I'm trying to get packaged for Debian. (I am the upstream author of this one, but I'm interested in a solution that

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
As an example, here's a Python package I'm trying to get packaged for Debian. (I am the upstream author of this one, but I'm interested in a solution that *doesn't* involve significant changes to the upstream code.) URL:http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/gracie/ The first thing I'd do

Tool support for private modules

2007-09-30 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all, The Debian Python Policy, chapter 3 URL:http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ch-programs.html says: 3.1.1 Programs Shipping Private Modules A program using /usr/bin/python as interpreter can come up with private Python modules. These modules should