Hi debian-python (2015.04.13_22:17:03_+0200)
> Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
> tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
>
> Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
In case you didn't see the private mails:
We've got a table in room 513b.
Still on for 3
I'm trying to make sure I understand this subthread correctly. Is the
following an accurate summary of the desires?
1. It should be possible, in Debian, not to ship Python 2 by default in
the near future, and to remove Python 2 from the archive in the far
future.
2. A huge number of existing
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:00:07AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> It is, as I think it was you said, easy enough to write Python code these
> days
> that works for both python and python3. As an upstream developer, go ahead
> and do that and leave it to the distros to packageit appropriately f
On 2015-04-14 at 09:22:22 -0400, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
> I'm thinking about scripts that are written and distributed to people
> running on different, unknown, Linux distros. Obviously if you're only
> targeting your own machines, there's no problem. But if you want to write a
> script that will wo
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 09:22:22 AM Thomas Kluyver wrote:
> On 14 April 2015 at 08:57, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > I have scripts I use locally that are untouched in almost a decade that
> > use
> > /usr/bin/python.
>
> I'm thinking about scripts that are written and distributed to people
> run
On 14 April 2015 at 08:57, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I have scripts I use locally that are untouched in almost a decade that use
> /usr/bin/python.
I'm thinking about scripts that are written and distributed to people
running on different, unknown, Linux distros. Obviously if you're only
targeti
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 08:24:01 AM Thomas Kluyver wrote:
> On 14 April 2015 at 08:10, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> > But it fails unhelpfully when you use it in a shebang.
> >
> > $ /tmp/foo.py
> > bash: /tmp/foo.py: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or
> > directory
> >
> > Let's make
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 08:10:49 AM Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:38 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >If you want python (which include /usr/bin/python), install it. If you
> >want python3, then the interpreter you're looking for is found at
> >/usr/bin/python3.
> I just don't want
On 14 April 2015 at 08:10, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> But it fails unhelpfully when you use it in a shebang.
>
> $ /tmp/foo.py
> bash: /tmp/foo.py: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or
> directory
>
> Let's make the latter more helpful.
>
>From a script authors point of view, it's curren
On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:38 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>If you want python (which include /usr/bin/python), install it. If you want
>python3, then the interpreter you're looking for is found at /usr/bin/python3.
I just don't want it to fail mysteriously.
When there's no Python 2 by default, comm
> I'm
> planning on playing notekeeper, and I'll publish a summary of what was
> discussed to this thread, if that works.
great, thanks
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:55:07AM +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> > If you want python (which include /usr/bin/python), install it. If you
> > want
> > python3, then the interpreter you're looking for is found at
> > /usr/bin/python3.
> >
> > There's no dilemma to solve.
>
> +1
+1, but only
[Scott Kitterman, 2015-04-14]
> Even after Python (meaning python2.7) is no longer in the archive (let alone
> part of some type of default install), people might still roll their own. I
> think the only possible answer to the question of what should /usr/bin/python
> point to when there's no py
On 14 April 2015 at 16:38, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Monday, April 13, 2015 10:36:43 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 01:57 AM, Matthias Klose wrote:
>> >#! /bin/sh
>> >python=$(shuffle /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python3)
>> >exec $python "$@"
>>
>> That was more or less the joke I m
On Monday, April 13, 2015 10:36:43 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 01:57 AM, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >#! /bin/sh
> >python=$(shuffle /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python3)
> >exec $python "$@"
>
> That was more or less the joke I made at the Pycon Language Summit. It's
> too twisted *not
On Apr 14, 2015, at 01:57 AM, Matthias Klose wrote:
>#! /bin/sh
>python=$(shuffle /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python3)
>exec $python "$@"
That was more or less the joke I made at the Pycon Language Summit. It's too
twisted *not* to implement. :)
But the idea of a (perhaps less perverse) launcher
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 01:57:26 AM Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 04/14/2015 01:20 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > What is a /usr/bin/python launcher?
>
> #! /bin/sh
> python=$(shuffle /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python3)
> exec $python "$@"
>
> I agree it's not perfect, there should be a preference
On 04/14/2015 01:20 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> What is a /usr/bin/python launcher?
#! /bin/sh
python=$(shuffle /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python3)
exec $python "$@"
I agree it's not perfect, there should be a preference depending on the number
of '2' and '3' digits in the date, when you're tryin
Hi Scott (2015.04.14_01:20:47_+0200)
> What is a /usr/bin/python launcher?
I think that was what Donald was asking for. My gut feeling here is that
that's a crazy idea.
SR
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On April 13, 2015 4:30:59 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote:
>
>>Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
>>tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
>>
>>Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
>
>+1; +1
>
>>Matthias wan
On 04/13/2015 11:07 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote:
>>
>> Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
>> tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
>>
>> Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
>>
>> Matthias wants to dis
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote:
Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
+1; +1
Matthias wants to discuss general s
> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote:
>
> Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
> tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
>
> Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
>
> Matthias wants to discuss general stretch goals for Python in Debian.
> I
On Apr 13, 2015, at 04:35 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>That's it, my items are in the list above; I'll be there!
Placeholder wiki page:
https://wiki.debian.org/Python/StretchRoadmap
Cheers,
-Barry
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 04:30:59PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> >Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
> >tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
> >
> >Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
>
> +1; +1;
+1 to that! (+1; +1; +1, I guess)
> >Matthias wants to
On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote:
>Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
>tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
>
>Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
+1; +1
>Matthias wants to discuss general stretch goals for Python in Debian.
>I want
Matthias and I are planning to have a Debian Python BoF at PyCon,
tomorrow afternoon. I think lunch is 2pm, so 3pm?
Meet outside the cPython sprint room?
Matthias wants to discuss general stretch goals for Python in Debian.
I want to make concrete plans for py3k packages that are compatible with
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