Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2020-08-17 Thread Ondrej Novy
Hi, po 17. 8. 2020 v 21:15 odesílatel Sandro Tosi napsal: > To these days, this is still happening! can we finally get rid of > this? Piotr, it looks like you're the admin of the mailing list, can > you take care of it please? thanks! > yes, please, please, please, please. -- Best regards

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2020-08-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
To these days, this is still happening! can we finally get rid of this? Piotr, it looks like you're the admin of the mailing list, can you take care of it please? thanks! On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:44 AM Ondrej Novy wrote: > > Hi, > > 2018-06-10 1:35 GMT+02:00 Sandro Tosi : >> >> this is still

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2018-06-11 Thread Ondrej Novy
Hi, 2018-06-10 1:35 GMT+02:00 Sandro Tosi : > this is still happening, and it looks like more frequently than before > - can we please disable this option once and for all? > +1. Please. > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 9:46 AM Sandro Tosi wrote: > > I'm sure i'm not the only member using gmail,

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2018-06-09 Thread Sandro Tosi
this is still happening, and it looks like more frequently than before - can we please disable this option once and for all? thanks On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 9:46 AM Sandro Tosi wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:19 PM, > wrote: > > Your membership in the mailing list Python-modules-team has

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 23, 2016 04:15:23 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/10/2016 05:34 PM, Santiago Vila wrote: > > The "[Python-modules-team]" thing in the subject is probably enough to > > break the DKIM signature. > > I don't believe DKIM signature is done on the header+body. If I'm not >

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-23 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 23 septembre 2016 16:15 CEST, Thomas Goirand  : >> The "[Python-modules-team]" thing in the subject is probably enough to >> break the DKIM signature. > > I don't believe DKIM signature is done on the header+body. If I'm not > mistaking, it's done only in the body of the mail,

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-23 Thread Santiago Vila
Yes, you are mistaken :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail#How_it_works Thanks.

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/10/2016 05:34 PM, Santiago Vila wrote: > The "[Python-modules-team]" thing in the subject is probably enough to > break the DKIM signature. I don't believe DKIM signature is done on the header+body. If I'm not mistaking, it's done only in the body of the mail, because each SMTP server on

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-15 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > * Sandro Tosi , 2016-09-11, 10:42: >>> >>> Now, you've got to ask to the admin of that mailing list, which appears to >>> be jwilk. I find that particularly interesting, given that afaik he left >>> the

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-11 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Sandro Tosi , 2016-09-11, 10:42: Now, you've got to ask to the admin of that mailing list, which appears to be jwilk. I find that particularly interesting, given that afaik he left the team some time ago. Yeah, that's bizarre. I don't know whether anybody else knows the

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 11, 2016, at 09:41 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >now can we PLEASE stop talking about how the perfect smtp system >should work and GET BACK to discuss if we are able and want to disable >the suspend membership upon bounces (that's what the mail you receive >says, so do not nitpick on this term

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-11 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 09:41:46AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> now can we PLEASE stop talking about how the perfect smtp system >> should work and GET BACK to discuss if we are able and want to disable >> the suspend

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-11 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 09:41:46AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > now can we PLEASE stop talking about how the perfect smtp system > should work and GET BACK to discuss if we are able and want to disable > the suspend membership upon bounces (that's what the mail you receive > says, so do not nitpick

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-11 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > Rejecting instead of discarding spam sent to mailing lists has also > been bad practice for a long time. thanks for another OT mail, please read my other reply on the matter or rejecting mails by smtp systems now can we PLEASE

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Sep 10, 2016, at 02:46 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> >>>I'm sure i'm not the only member using gmail, which bounces spam >>>emails and that what causes this problem. >> >> Are you sure

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 10, 2016, at 02:46 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > >>I'm sure i'm not the only member using gmail, which bounces spam >>emails and that what causes this problem. > > Are you sure about that? Bouncing spam has been bad

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
Yeah, I get these (quite annoying) bounce warnings on my gmail account once in a while. It's quite annoying. Paul On Sep 10, 2016 2:35 PM, "Barry Warsaw" wrote: > On Sep 10, 2016, at 02:46 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > >I'm sure i'm not the only member using gmail, which

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 10, 2016, at 04:32 PM, Santiago Vila wrote: >AFAIK, Gmail does not bounce spam. It rejects messages with broken >DKIM signatures. There are a number of DKIM mitigation features in newer versions of Mailman 2 that should be investigated. I can't tell what version of Mailman this list is

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 10, 2016, at 02:46 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >I'm sure i'm not the only member using gmail, which bounces spam >emails and that what causes this problem. Are you sure about that? Bouncing spam has been bad practice for a very long time. Cheers, -Barry

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > The correct behaviour if they really want to avoid spam to even reach > the spam folder, is to accept the email, and discard it. err that's wrong, so wrong. every email provider with a handful of users rejects spam

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 05:34:12PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 04:15:19PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Santiago Vila wrote: > Fine, but it is yet to be seen that the quoted message is rejected for > being "spam" (which

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 04:15:19PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Santiago Vila wrote: > > AFAIK, Gmail does not bounce spam. It rejects messages with broken > > DKIM signatures. > > no. it rejects (yes technically not bounce, the mails are

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 02:46:54PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:19 PM, >> wrote: >> > Your membership in the mailing list Python-modules-team

Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 02:46:54PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:19 PM, > wrote: > > Your membership in the mailing list Python-modules-team has been > > disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from

can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm

2016-09-10 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:19 PM, wrote: > Your membership in the mailing list Python-modules-team has been > disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you > was dated 10-Sep-2016. You will not get any more messages from