Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2008-12-23 13:37]
 unfortunately I use Git only outside Debian, so I don't know about
 issues git-buildpackage might have. I know it doesn't have
 mergeWithUpstream but it's written in Python, so we can implement this.
 The problem is (FWIK) that it's better to use Git with upstream sources
 (with tools like pristine-tar)... anyway, I vote for Git, but I'm open
 to alternative suggestions.

update: I vote for status quo (svn, svn-buildpackage, mergeWithUpstream)
for now - at least until all top contributors will have decent internet
connection or we'll work out some kind of remote upstream branches
schema so that one could choose what to download (and a script to
download all repositories (packages) within the team)


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Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote:
 [Piotr Ożarowski, 2008-12-23 13:37]
 unfortunately I use Git only outside Debian, so I don't know about
 issues git-buildpackage might have. I know it doesn't have
 mergeWithUpstream but it's written in Python, so we can implement this.
 The problem is (FWIK) that it's better to use Git with upstream sources
 (with tools like pristine-tar)... anyway, I vote for Git, but I'm open
 to alternative suggestions.

 update: I vote for status quo (svn, svn-buildpackage, mergeWithUpstream)
 for now - at least until all top contributors will have decent internet
 connection or we'll work out some kind of remote upstream branches
 schema so that one could choose what to download (and a script to
 download all repositories (packages) within the team)

Agree. We talked with Sandro on IRC, the problem is in a bad internet
connection --- it takes ~40min to download 10MB -- then of course
every MB matters. For me it takes just couple seconds, so it doesn't
really matter if I am downloading tarball+debian dir separately, or
together in a git repo.

I just assumed that everyone has a decent internet connection these
days, and I was wrong. :)

Ondrej


Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 15:54, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
...

Last reply on this thread, just to recap what Ondrej and me discussed
on irc this evening.

I didn't realize I ain't made clear what's my network situation: I'm
still at 56k, so many of the think you broadband users consider
normal, trivial, or chip, for me they're not. I have to minimize the
stuff I download at home and maximize the effort, and svn
(+downloading the tarball at work, if they are big) allows me to
achieve this balance.

But even if I had an adsl or so, I would say that that git is not the
right choice for our team (but I would have made a lot less problems
migrating to it). I think that, being things are they are now, svn is
the right choice and keep being. What we really need is to migrate a
svn layout-2 repository (one composed by
{trunk,tags,branches,...}/package).

Anyhow, to be short: I count as 1, and we are in democracy; whatever
the team will come up, I'll stick to it eventually changing/reducing
the way I contribute to it.

Cheers and Happy Holidays,
-- 
Sandro Tosi (aka morph, Morpheus, matrixhasu)
My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi


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Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Ondrej Certik wrote:
 Agree. We talked with Sandro on IRC, the problem is in a bad internet
 connection --- it takes ~40min to download 10MB -- then of course
 every MB matters. For me it takes just couple seconds, so it doesn't
 really matter if I am downloading tarball+debian dir separately, or
 together in a git repo.

but then if you need the original sources to build a package - it doesn't
matter much if you get the tarball or clone a git repository.

 I just assumed that everyone has a decent internet connection these
 days, and I was wrong. :)

unfortunately not...

Cheers,

Bernd

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Bug#509697: Python 2.5, ctypes, and binutils

2008-12-26 Thread Adeodato Simó
Regarding #509697 (python 2.5 providing ctypes, and ctypes using
objdump), I don't think it's reasonable to make python2.5 depend on
binutils, just for the purpose of one of the modules in the standard
library. One option would be to add binutils to Recommends or Suggest,
but that does not ensure packages that Depend: python-ctypes will work.

Maybe python should stop Providing: python-ctypes, and python-ctypes
should depend on python (= 2.5) | python2.4 instead of just
python2.4 (plus the recently added a dependency on binutils). This way
binutils will get pulled only when a package that depends on
python-ctypes is installed. (This does not solve, however, packages that
are being smart and are depending on python (= 2.5) | python-ctypes.
But maybe those packages should stop doing that.)

If this is the way to go, then for squeeze it means that, if the ctypes
source package is to disappear, it should be created as a dummy package
(from python-defaults instead?), if only to contain the binutils
depends/recommends.

Comments welcome.

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accusations of himself are always believed; his praises never.
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Re: RFS: python-pytc

2008-12-26 Thread Vernon Tang

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:43:48PM +0100, Piotr O??arowski wrote:

* why not Priority: optional?
* please build -dbg package
* consider using debhelper7's command sequencer (man dh) instead of
 CDBS, it will be easier to build -dbg package without CDBS, IMHO
* add Vcs-Svn and Vcs-Browser fields


I've just committed (r7192) the above suggestions (except for switching 
to dh).



* did you send patches upstream?


Will do.

Happy holidays!
Vernon


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