Re: Maintainer vs. Uploaders
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Piotr Ożarowski <pi...@debian.org> wrote: > [Barry Warsaw, 2015-09-29] >> How should the change be acknowledged by the >> maintainer? Should I Cc the mailing list when I contact the maintainer? Is > > do we really need a written policy how to contact fellow co-maintainer? > Ping on IRC, send an email, send a message via xmpp or phone, ... use > whatever you usually use to contact any other Debian maintainer. > > An example message: > "I just commited some changes in foo related to bar. Please take a look, > I plan to upload it to unstable in a day or two. Let me know if I should > wait a bit longer or if you're not OK with these changes. Thanks" > > I think such message to all Uploaders who clearly know more about given > package than I do is a good practice even if team is listed in > Maintainer field. I don't think sending such message after fixing a typo > is needed, but it's definitely a must when someone replaces dh with > cdbs or vice versa. > >> it okay to commit to vcs but not upload? How long do you wait for feedback >> before you can do the upload? > > yes, it's always OK to commit changes (which can be reverted). It's not OK > to force someone else to maintain these changes by uploading it. > >> Should we have some automated tools to help out here? I'm not sure where to > > no, we already have -commits mailing list which nobody reads. Yet > another reason why team should be in Uploaders and not in Maintainer > field. > >> Do all team members understand the implications when they set the two fields? >> Some maintainers may not really care and may have been less conscientious >> about setting the fields. > > Maintainer vs Uploaders rules needs to be moved to policy. I will > propose a patch to the policy soon (I'd prefer a native speaker to do > it, though) > >> The wiki says that the general rule of thumb is to set the team as >> Maintainer, >> to which I agree. > > I don't (due to "package and forget" issue) +1 on everything you wrote -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
Maintainer vs. Uploaders
[Barry Warsaw, 2015-09-29] > How should the change be acknowledged by the > maintainer? Should I Cc the mailing list when I contact the maintainer? Is do we really need a written policy how to contact fellow co-maintainer? Ping on IRC, send an email, send a message via xmpp or phone, ... use whatever you usually use to contact any other Debian maintainer. An example message: "I just commited some changes in foo related to bar. Please take a look, I plan to upload it to unstable in a day or two. Let me know if I should wait a bit longer or if you're not OK with these changes. Thanks" I think such message to all Uploaders who clearly know more about given package than I do is a good practice even if team is listed in Maintainer field. I don't think sending such message after fixing a typo is needed, but it's definitely a must when someone replaces dh with cdbs or vice versa. > it okay to commit to vcs but not upload? How long do you wait for feedback > before you can do the upload? yes, it's always OK to commit changes (which can be reverted). It's not OK to force someone else to maintain these changes by uploading it. > Should we have some automated tools to help out here? I'm not sure where to no, we already have -commits mailing list which nobody reads. Yet another reason why team should be in Uploaders and not in Maintainer field. > Do all team members understand the implications when they set the two fields? > Some maintainers may not really care and may have been less conscientious > about setting the fields. Maintainer vs Uploaders rules needs to be moved to policy. I will propose a patch to the policy soon (I'd prefer a native speaker to do it, though) > The wiki says that the general rule of thumb is to set the team as Maintainer, > to which I agree. I don't (due to "package and forget" issue) -- Piotr Ożarowski Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.ozarowski.pl www.griffith.cc www.debian.org GPG Fingerprint: 1D2F A898 58DA AF62 1786 2DF7 AEF6 F1A2 A745 7645
Re: Maintainer vs. Uploaders
On Sep 29, 2015, at 04:30 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >Maintainer vs Uploaders rules needs to be moved to policy. I will >propose a patch to the policy soon (I'd prefer a native speaker to do >it, though) +1, and I'd be happy to review the specific text. Cheers, -Barry
