Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 09:58:16AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: kowari:~# hdparm -t /dev/hd{a,g}{,} /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hdg: Timing buffered

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-29 Thread Joshua Kwan
Sven Luther wrote: I asked because another guy (with a piix chipset though), was claiming that his chipset was not detected, and thus that dma was not activated. If he was using 2.4.27 tell him to use 2.4.26 for now. As I've mentioned in other mails I just fixed 2.4.27, in trunk. -- Joshua

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-29 Thread John Summerfield
Sven Luther wrote: It's a self-built kernel, but without modification. I neglected to include a modules listing in the bug report. Here are those myst likely to be involved: ide_generic 1472 0 sis551316776 1 hpt366 22788 2 ide_disk

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Sven Luther
] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge Raphael Hertzog wrote: Quoting Joey Hess: 15. Get ftp-master to remove kernel udebs for the old kernel version from testing. This will *break* some old released install media (floppy, netboot, not cdrom), but it's necessary before

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 09:25:20PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:58:06PM +0200, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: There was no final decision if we ship 2.4.27 with sarge. I wonder what needs to happen to have a formal d-k decision. Do other subgroups of Debian have a

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 11:24:12AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 09:25:20PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:58:06PM +0200, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: There was no final decision if we ship 2.4.27 with sarge. I wonder what needs to happen to have

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 11:24:12AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 09:25:20PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:58:06PM +0200, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: There was no final decision if we ship 2.4.27 with sarge. I wonder what needs to happen to have a

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread John Summerfield
John Summerfield wrote: Sven Luther wrote: fwiw I noticed something very like this between 2.2 and 2.4 when 2.4 was new: 2.2 was faster on my Pentium system. I think it was a earlier version of the same chipset. Here are results on 2.6.7-1-k7: /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 108 MB

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread John Summerfield
Steve Langasek wrote: We depend on the experts (the kernel team) for the information we need in order to make good decisions -- or better, to help *you* make good decisions. Based on this thread and other discussions, I understand that the current 2.4.26 packages are unsuitable for release

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 04:01:35PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Sven Luther wrote: fwiw I noticed something very like this between 2.2 and 2.4 when 2.4 was new: 2.2 was faster on my Pentium system. I think it was a earlier version of the same chipset. Here

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-28 Thread John Summerfield
kowari:~# hdparm -t /dev/hd{a,g}{,} /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 152 MB in 3.02 seconds = 50.33 MB/sec /dev/hdg: Timing buffered disk reads: 120 MB in 3.02 seconds = 39.74 MB/sec /dev/hdg: Timing

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:35:16PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Christian Perrier
Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by tbm [3]. One thing to bear in mind when making this

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread John Summerfield
Steve Langasek wrote: Various tasks are in a hold pattern until this decision is made (ensuring that d-i uses the proper kernel, removal of other kernel packages from sarge, rebuilding of some packages to fix build-dep issues[4]), so I'd like to uncover any problems with this proposal quickly.

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 07:53:09AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:48:00PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:35:16PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 02:06:46PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: Various tasks are in a hold pattern until this decision is made (ensuring that d-i uses the proper kernel, removal of other kernel packages from sarge, rebuilding of some packages to fix build-dep

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Matthias Klose
Sven Luther writes: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 07:53:09AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 02:06:46PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: Various tasks are in a hold pattern until this decision is made (ensuring that d-i uses the proper kernel, removal of other kernel packages from sarge, rebuilding of some packages to fix build-dep

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Matthias Klose
Christoph Hellwig writes: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: It will be 2.6.8. If you write 2.6.8, do you mean 2.6.8.1? Or is the diff to .1 included in the Debian packages? I cannot find a hint and the version number is misleading. Given the diff to .1

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread John Summerfield
Sven Luther wrote: All here who have 2.4 and 2.6 kernels on ppc should try disk speed tests with hdparm: I found my new Athlon (well the mobo's new, CPU's not) is 30% faster with the 2.4 kernel. Have you reported a bug report on this ? And with which 2.6 kernel was it ? I haven't.

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:00:47PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Christoph Hellwig writes: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: It will be 2.6.8. If you write 2.6.8, do you mean 2.6.8.1? Or is the diff to .1 included in the Debian packages? I cannot find

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 07:10:55PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Sven Luther wrote: All here who have 2.4 and 2.6 kernels on ppc should try disk speed tests with hdparm: I found my new Athlon (well the mobo's new, CPU's not) is 30% faster with the 2.4 kernel. Have you reported a

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread John Summerfield
Sven Luther wrote: fwiw I noticed something very like this between 2.2 and 2.4 when 2.4 was new: 2.2 was faster on my Pentium system. I think it was a earlier version of the same chipset. Here are results on 2.6.7-1-k7: /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 108 MB in 3.02 seconds = 35.78

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Quoting Joey Hess: 15. Get ftp-master to remove kernel udebs for the old kernel version from testing. This will *break* some old released install media (floppy, netboot, not cdrom), but it's necessary before release. Why is this necessary ? I'm a bit

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 01:26:37PM +0200, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: * Steve Langasek wrote: I should be able to get linux-kernel-di-alpha done and uploaded by Monday. I'm going to upload an updated kernel-image-2.4.26-alpha package next weekend, please make

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-27 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Norbert Tretkowski wrote: [snip] I'm going to upload an updated kernel-image-2.4.26-alpha package next weekend, please make sure you're using this one, because it'll be build against kernel-source-2.4.26 2.4.26-6, which fixes some security issues. ... not

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:35:16PM -0600, dann frazier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by

Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-26 Thread Joey Hess
dann frazier wrote: Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by tbm [3]. One thing to bear in mind when

[PROPOSAL] 2.4.27 as default 2.4 kernel for sarge

2004-08-25 Thread dann frazier
Based on discussions on the debian-kernel list[1], I'd like to propose that we use 2.4.27 as the 2.4 kernel for all architectures with 2.4 kernels in sarge. The strongest arguments for 2.4.27, as opposed to 2.4.26 were noted by tbm [3]. All 2.4 architectures have 2.4.27 kernel images built.