Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:18:34AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: For this not to happen, we might need to have an already established release team for etch. Maybe the people currently involved in the release team as RM and assistant RM just want to continue the hard work. Maybe some of you

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-16 Thread Jose Carlos do Nascimento
to have an already established release team for etch. Maybe the people currently involved in the release team as RM and assistant RM just want to continue the hard work. Maybe some of you people just want to get a break Anyway, I think that we would all benefit in knowing as soon as possible

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:26:44AM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: El sáb, 11-06-2005 a las 08:15 +0200, Giuseppe Sacco escribió: Why do you want a new release without other new important packages like, just to make an example, X.org? There are a lot of new large packages that

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Giuseppe Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are a lot of new large packages that needs a *lot* of testing before being releaseable. I think a one year release is really impossibile, while a two years release seems reasonable to me. We can just release those packages in etch+1 if they can't

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A key point is certainly building up a release schedule ASAP so that all individual maintainers can establish their own schedules for their packages. For instance, it will certainly have a great influence on the d-i team projects for the installer.

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-13 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il giorno lun, 13-06-2005 alle 13:43 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG ha scritto: Giuseppe Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are a lot of new large packages that needs a *lot* of testing before being releaseable. I think a one year release is really impossibile, while a two years release

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050613 22:46]: Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A key point is certainly building up a release schedule ASAP so that all individual maintainers can establish their own schedules for their packages. For instance, it will certainly have a

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Giuseppe Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Il giorno lun, 13-06-2005 alle 13:43 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG ha scritto: Giuseppe Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are a lot of new large packages that needs a *lot* of testing before being releaseable. I think a one year release is really

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il giorno ven, 10-06-2005 alle 18:58 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG ha scritto: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:14:02PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.06.10.2300 +0200]: Currently, I am planning to stick

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Because I value what little of my sanity remains, and am guarding it jealously. A 12-month release cycle for etch would mean that someone else would need to take point on it; the rate at which the release team's involvement would have to ramp up again for a 12-month cycle wouldn't leave me

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2005-06-11 Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] By the end of September, have the GCC changes in place and other infrastructural changes that we know we expect. Have filed bug reports on whatever new RC issues will need to be fixed for etch. (Such as the GCC change, and

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El sb, 11-06-2005 a las 08:15 +0200, Giuseppe Sacco escribi: Il giorno ven, 10-06-2005 alle 18:58 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG ha scritto: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] By the end of June, decide the release criteria. By the end of September, have the GCC changes in place

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of new large packages that needs a *lot* of testing before being releaseable. I think a one year release is really impossibile, while a two years release seems reasonable to me. So Ubuntu does not actually exist? -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am Samstag, 11. Juni 2005 07:43 schrieb Steve Langasek: I'm also not really convinced that a 12-month release cycle is actually a good idea at this point -- in terms of either setting believable expectations, or what users of stable actually want (clearly anyone who stuck with woody for three

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sebastian Ley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050611 12:17]: Am Samstag, 11. Juni 2005 07:43 schrieb Steve Langasek: I'm also not really convinced that a 12-month release cycle is actually a good idea at this point -- in terms of either setting believable expectations, or what users of stable

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-11 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:26:44AM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: Why do you want a release with X.org packages and not with . (fill in here). The problem is that Debian is quite huge and have packages with very different schedules and in different cycles of their live. If we

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:29:41AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Christian Perrier wrote: For this not to happen, we might need to have an already established release team for etch. Maybe the people currently involved in the release team as RM and assistant RM just want to continue the hard

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread Steve Langasek
probably all agree that releasing etch in 3 years is not the best thing to do. For this not to happen, we might need to have an already established release team for etch. Maybe the people currently involved in the release team as RM and assistant RM just want to continue the hard work. Maybe some

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.06.10.2300 +0200]: Currently, I am planning to stick around for etch. If we're still waiting for etch two years from now, it's hard to predict how I'll feel at that point. :) QUICK, ALL: this should be enough of a reason to get etch out in a

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:14:02PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.06.10.2300 +0200]: Currently, I am planning to stick around for etch. If we're still waiting for etch two years from now, it's hard to predict how I'll feel at that point. :)

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:14:02PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.06.10.2300 +0200]: Currently, I am planning to stick around for etch. If we're still waiting for etch two years from now, it's hard

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:58:35PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Why not? The following seems like a reasonable plan to me: By the end of June, decide the release criteria. By the end of September, have the GCC changes in place and other infrastructural changes that we know we

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:58:35PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:14:02PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.06.10.2300 +0200]: Currently, I am planning to stick around for

Re: Release team for etch?

2005-06-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: Currently, I am planning to stick around for etch. If we're still waiting for etch two years from now, it's hard to predict how I'll feel at that point. :) Ugh! However, that'd be still one year faster than sarge... Regards, Joey -- Reading is a lost art

Release team for etch?

2005-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
. For this not to happen, we might need to have an already established release team for etch. Maybe the people currently involved in the release team as RM and assistant RM just want to continue the hard work. Maybe some of you people just want to get a break Anyway, I think that we would all