Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:10:41PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:24:38PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 10:51:39AM +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: The GNOME team have been talking about what the chances are of having GNOME 2.8 uploaded to unstable

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-22 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 03:34:07 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:10:41PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: and they also got a lot of testing (at least libxml2), considering how many times the libxml2 2.6.15 breakage has been reported. What breakage is that? A version of

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Waitz
hoi :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:07:40PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:17:10PM +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: - due to Sarge's official kernel being 2.4.x, we'll keep magicdev as the default device mounting program for now, despite it's clearly inferior to

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 03:56:37PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: hoi :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:07:40PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:17:10PM +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: - due to Sarge's official kernel being 2.4.x, we'll keep magicdev as the default device

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 04:13:46PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Can this not be made arch conditional ? I don't know how such alternatives live with arch conditional things. is this : magicdev | g-v-m [!powerpc], g-v-m | magicdev [powerpc] allowed ? It is for build-depends, but not for

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-17 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Wouter Verhelst wrote: magicdev | g-v-m [!powerpc], g-v-m | magicdev [powerpc] allowed ? It is for build-depends, but not for plain depends. If you need that, you need to generate your depends header at build time, and need arch:any packages instead of arch:all ones (which isn't

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:10:41PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: Alternatively, if someone with a sparc could make the build, i'd be very happy (joshk tried (many thanks), but has not enough memory, unfortunately). Forget the firefox thing, joshk did succeed (many many thanks). Mike

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 16-11-2004 te 00:51 +0100, schreef Sven Luther: I was also under the impression (from joeyh, but he did speak about .udebs), that it also affected priority of the autobuilders in some way, that is higher urgency packages get prioritized higher in the autobuilder queues. But naturally,

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Wouter Verhelst wrote: Op di, 16-11-2004 te 00:51 +0100, schreef Sven Luther: I was also under the impression (from joeyh, but he did speak about .udebs), that it also affected priority of the autobuilders in some way, that is higher urgency packages get prioritized higher in the

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 13:12 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Op di, 16-11-2004 te 12:57 +0100, schreef Martin Schulze: Wouter Verhelst wrote: It is. This is a myth which orignated due to the fact that my wanna-build documentation at http://people.d.o/~wouter/wanna-build-states used to say

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Jordi Mallach
Hi! On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 04:21:20AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: For the benefit of those following the discussion who haven't already heard via IRC or otherwise, I suppose I should mention here that the release team is running out of objections to GNOME 2.8 in unstable that the GNOME team

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op di, 16-11-2004 te 06:44 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 13:12 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Op di, 16-11-2004 te 12:57 +0100, schreef Martin Schulze: Wouter Verhelst wrote: It is. This is a myth which orignated due to the fact that my wanna-build documentation at

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:17:10 +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: Hi! On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 04:21:20AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: *nod*. For -gtk-gnome readers, this involves a few things for meta-gnome2. Why don't you have a 'meta-gnome2.6' and a 'meta-gnome2.8' with meta-gnome2 itself

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:17:10PM +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: - due to Sarge's official kernel being 2.4.x, we'll keep magicdev as the default device mounting program for now, despite it's clearly inferior to gnome-volume-manager. g-v-m depends on hal/dbus/udev, and would also make

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El mar, 16-11-2004 a las 14:25 +0100, Wouter Verhelst escribió: Op di, 16-11-2004 te 06:44 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson: On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 13:12 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Op di, 16-11-2004 te 12:57 +0100, schreef Martin Schulze: Wouter Verhelst wrote: It is. This is a myth

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-16 Thread Fabrice LORRAIN (home)
Steve Langasek wrote: For the benefit of those following the discussion who haven't already heard via IRC or otherwise, Thanks for that. Second, KDE in unstable is not a good model to follow. Between longstanding FTBFS bugs that ensured KDE 3.3 could not migrate to testing regardless

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 07:38:59PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Colin Watson wrote: * Please make sure to get all the libraries through as quickly as possible to reduce the impact on the rest of the distribution. Upload with urgency=low to start with, but

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-15 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Colin Watson wrote: * Please make sure to get all the libraries through as quickly as possible to reduce the impact on the rest of the distribution. Upload with urgency=low to start with, but we may be willing to speed things up once we see that things are

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 05:48:44PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 07:38:59PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Colin Watson wrote: * Please make sure to get all the libraries through as quickly as possible to reduce the impact on the rest of

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 12:51:27AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 05:48:44PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 07:38:59PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: This point is self-contradictory and spells disaster: 1) You cannot have a rapid deployment

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:24:38PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 10:51:39AM +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: The GNOME team have been talking about what the chances are of having GNOME 2.8 uploaded to unstable since it was released upstream early in September. All right,

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-13 Thread Fabrice LORRAIN (home)
Some comments from someone external to debian : Jordi Mallach wrote: Hello release team, The GNOME team have been talking about what the chances are of having GNOME 2.8 uploaded to unstable since it was released upstream early in September. Might personnal wishes would be to have the most

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-13 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 12:52:12PM +0100, Fabrice LORRAIN (home) wrote: This is wrong. Debian IS stable. The current debian users are the one using woody. People using experimental are in limbo. The ones using sid are alpha-testers. The ones using sarge are beta-testers. If DDs ever forget

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-11 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Jordi Mallach wrote: The GNOME team have been talking about what the chances are of having GNOME 2.8 uploaded to unstable since it was released upstream early in September. While two months ago we never consider this to be a real possibility for various reasons, today

Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-10 Thread Jordi Mallach
, aliviating most of these problems, but the reality is that there isn't a fixed freeze date yet. We've tested upgrades and migrations, both complete and partial, from 2.6 to 2.8 and apparently everything is solid, so we'd like to get permission to upload GNOME 2.8 to unstable, and try to get it in Sarge

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-10 Thread Amaya
[ Small suggestion ahead ] Jordi Mallach wrote: Debian users _are_ using GNOME 2.8, and while it's available in experimental, it's a pain for them as there's no optimal way of maintaining an up to date GNOME 2.8 dekstop easily unless completely upgrading to experimental. A Componentized

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-10 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 10:51 +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: Debian users _are_ using GNOME 2.8, and while it's available in experimental, it's a pain for them as there's no optimal way of maintaining an up to date GNOME 2.8 dekstop easily unless completely upgrading to experimental. I mostly

Re: Upload of GNOME 2.8 to unstable

2004-11-10 Thread John McCutchan
is solid, so we'd like to get permission to upload GNOME 2.8 to unstable, and try to get it in Sarge as quick as possible. If we get your OK to do the upload, my personal opinion is that once 2.8 is in unstable, it'd be difficult to not end up shipping with GNOME 2.8 in sarge, as the new