Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Thomas Walter
Hello, On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:01, Bill Allombert wrote: Hello Debian Science people, There is a discussion (in bug #361418) on the future of the Debian menu structure. In case you missed it, we would like to have your opinions on the entries for scientific applications. The relevant

Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Francesco Pietra
etc., what about chemistry? Chemistry is at the basis of natural sciences mentioned below, and a basic science in its own. Think about chemistry (there are great debian packages for chemistry, first on the line - in my view - mpqc. At any event, there are chemists under the Science section

Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Francesco Pietra
I received this message after I answered Bill Allombert. The list below is a reasonable one, when Bio is written in full Biology and medicine is added; medicine is largely biology but with special needs. I disagree with the distinction science/education. Scientific education is science, or

Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:35:33PM +0200, Peter Staudt-Fischbach wrote: Hello, Thomas Walter wrote: Hello, On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:01, Bill Allombert wrote: [discussion (in bug #361418) on the future of the Debian menu structure] ... It also opens a long discussion about the

Re: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Thomas Walter wrote: Hello, From my point of view this 2 section names are arbitrary and too global. It also opens a long discussion about the hirarchy. I think Mathematics is also part of Science. At least for application like axiom, octave,

Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread gnwiii
On 5/14/06, Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest that the heirarchy be patterned after the organizational structure of the faculty of a major university. There is, I believe, a lot of agreement on this structure. No there is not agreement. Harvard ended up with the Divison of

Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Thomas Walter
Hello, On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:57, Francesco Pietra wrote: I received this message after I answered Bill Allombert. The list below is a reasonable one, when Bio is written in full Biology and medicine is added; medicine is largely biology but with special needs. I disagree with the

Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Thomas Walter
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 20:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/14/06, Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] The goal for Debian should be to make it easier for users to locate tools for their problems. There are many tools that are specific to a narrow subject area (e.g., DNA

Re: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 05:57:31PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: I received this message after I answered Bill Allombert. The list below is a reasonable one, when Bio is written in full Biology and medicine is added; medicine is largely biology but with special needs. I disagree with

Re: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 07:20:55PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Thomas Walter wrote: Hello, From my point of view this 2 section names are arbitrary and too global. It also opens a long discussion about the hirarchy. I think Mathematics is

Re: Bug#361418: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Jordan Mantha
* Daniel Leidert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-15 01:25:57]: The latter is like: how to do integration or differentiation, waht are Newton's rules in gravity the first is like: when I apply several of the basic rules to these measurements under given constraints then one can proof the

Re: Debian menu and the Apps/Science section

2006-05-14 Thread Russell Shaw
Ben Burton wrote: Hi, I think Mathematics is also part of Science. FWIW, I would argue that mathematics is not a science -- it does not use the scientific method, there is no hypothesis and experimentation -- it is a more self-contained discipline that, while it seeks to be useful, is not