On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:47:57PM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote:
I have never endorsed any particular political point of view while using
my debian.org address. I feel rather uncomfortable with the way the
thread has been going; could you clarify whether you meant that I
actually had done
quote who=Lukas Ruf date=[040225 10:46]/
Just to mention: in some countries distributing racist material or
neglecting the holocaust can be punished by law. I do not know what
is the situation in British Columbia
British Columbia being part of Canada makes it quite illegal. Canada has
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 17:44 +0100, Thomas Sjögren wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
its a distribution of an operating system, how do you
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:47:57PM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote:
I have never endorsed any particular political point of view while using
my debian.org address. I feel rather uncomfortable with the way the
thread has been going; could you clarify whether you meant that I
actually had done
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 17:44 +0100, Thomas Sjögren wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
its a distribution of an operating system, how do you
quote who=Lukas Ruf date=[040225 10:46]/
Just to mention: in some countries distributing racist material or
neglecting the holocaust can be punished by law. I do not know what
is the situation in British Columbia
British Columbia being part of Canada makes it quite illegal. Canada has
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Subject: Re: [ox-en] Walther
Date: Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:54
From: Martin Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tacincala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:25, Tacincala wrote:
http://reactor-core.org/discrimination/
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of Debian would be sufficient.
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Dale Amon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-25 16:42]:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside of Debian. I
think a severe warning to keep his politics outside of
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of Debian would be sufficient.
A: Why is this on security?
B: I thought we had decided last time that Debian does
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of
: Re: Fwd: Re: [ox-en] Walther
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe
Greetings,
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
What's the alternativ? Call the CIA or ths Spanish christian inquisition to
check everybodies political correctness?
Keep smiling
yanosz
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:26:47PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
Well dont come here. At the local restauraunt I sometimes go to the head
waiter wears an Osama is my hero T shirt. I think it is better to ask why
do they do what they do anyway.
I see. So when I do over the Internet what you just
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
its a distribution of an operating system, how do you intend to stop
insert a politicial view you dont approve of from
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [ox-en] Walther
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:44:54PM +0100, Thomas Sjögren wrote:
as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
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the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
statement ... freedom rhetoric and stand up for and make political
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:50:50PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
please continue the discussion in debial-politics.
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of Debian would be sufficient.
I do strongly disagree with his personal thoughts, but I must grant
him the right to
Hello all!
I've just received over 20 mails with Walther in subject. No one from
them is related to debian security issues. Is is OK ?
I'm receving daily hundreds of mails, and I like to have them sorted by
real subject.
best regards
Jarek
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:42:08PM +0100, Horst Pflugstaedt wrote:
I think, keeping politics and extremist declarations outside Debian
also means, that he/we should not declare such thoughts using official
debian mail-addresses. Using corporate addresses means assigning those
declarations to
Shall Intel or AMD also now be tainted, if his computer or
server use either of their CPU's?
Are we to boycott ATI or Nvidia for allowing him to use a video
card created by them?
If his mouse is powered by the serial port which is a patent
owned by Microsoft, does it mean Microsoft can require
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Subject: Re: [ox-en] Walther
Date: Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:54
From: Martin Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tacincala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:25, Tacincala wrote:
http://reactor-core.org/discrimination/
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of Debian would be sufficient.
--
Dale Amon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-25 16:42]:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside of Debian. I
think a severe warning to keep his politics outside of
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:45:39PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
Just to mention: in some countries distributing racist material or
neglecting the holocaust can be punished by law. I do not know what
is the situation in British Columbia
In Communist Russia it was illegal to own a gun. What
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200,
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of
@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [ox-en] Walther
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I
Greetings,
or is good code more important than this sort of stuff?
What's the alternativ? Call the CIA or ths Spanish christian inquisition to
check everybodies political correctness?
Keep smiling
yanosz
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
Yes, it is. Our Debian Free Software Guidelines enforce a mandate of no
discrimination. Software included in Debian does not discriminate on
people based on their
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:26:47PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
Well dont come here. At the local restauraunt I sometimes go to the head
waiter wears an Osama is my hero T shirt. I think it is better to ask why
do they do what they do anyway.
I see. So when I do over the Internet what you
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:02:22PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
its a distribution of an operating system, how do you intend to stop
insert a politicial view you dont approve of from
Debian is useable by anyoen. Let's not go down that
road or you'll have everyone trying to decide who is
allowed to use what software for what purpose and since
practically everyone hates *someone*, the whole endeavour
dies.
This is not about personal dislike. It is about the dubious claim
@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [ox-en] Walther
so the use of debian products for rascist work is ok for debian
by using debian he associates debians products with rascism
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 17:41, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:37:20PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 05:44:54PM +0100, Thomas Sjögren wrote:
as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
--
``You know those mail clients: MS Outlook, mail(1),
the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
statement ... freedom rhetoric and stand up for and make political
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:50:50PM +0200, Martin Hardie wrote:
the differnce is guys is that Debian and free software professes to be based
upon a community and a community that believes in sharing and respect and
thus must have the guts to move beyond the inane ... no discrimination
as long theres no racist/whatever propaganda inside debian, whats the
problem?
Actually, there are/were some two or three racist fortunes in the
fortunes-off package, FWIW.
please continue the discussion in debial-politics.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:41:13PM +, Dale Amon wrote:
Yes, as long as his personal beliefs are kept outside
of Debian. I think a severe warning to keep his politics
outside of Debian would be sufficient.
I do strongly disagree with his personal thoughts, but I must grant
him the right to
Hello all!
I've just received over 20 mails with Walther in subject. No one from
them is related to debian security issues. Is is OK ?
I'm receving daily hundreds of mails, and I like to have them sorted by
real subject.
best regards
Jarek
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:42:08PM +0100, Horst Pflugstaedt wrote:
I think, keeping politics and extremist declarations outside Debian
also means, that he/we should not declare such thoughts using official
debian mail-addresses. Using corporate addresses means assigning those
declarations to
Shall Intel or AMD also now be tainted, if his computer or
server use either of their CPU's?
Are we to boycott ATI or Nvidia for allowing him to use a video
card created by them?
If his mouse is powered by the serial port which is a patent
owned by Microsoft, does it mean Microsoft can require
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