On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 09:07:10AM +0200, Elmar Stellnberger wrote:
> That is not correct. You can make use of SSE instructions also in
> x86_32/i386 mode.
>
> I found f.i.:
> https://gcc.gcc.gnu.narkive.com/k0KqaZF2/i386-sse-test-question
Well x86_64 uses it all the time, not just optionally,
On 14.04.22 15:45, Levis Yarema wrote:
Is there in deed any reason to prefer amd64 over i586 if you have the
choice and a machine with 2GB RAM or less, apart from perhaps long term
support?
Depends on the application. Encryption and decryption
requiring the simulation of very larger
On 15.04.22 04:50, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 03:45:37PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote:
Is there in deed any reason to prefer amd64 over i586 if you have the
choice and a machine with 2GB RAM or less, apart from perhaps long term
support?
Twice the registers and sse
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 03:45:37PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote:
> Is there in deed any reason to prefer amd64 over i586 if you have the
> choice and a machine with 2GB RAM or less, apart from perhaps long term
> support?
Twice the registers and sse instructions for fpu rather than x87?
--
Len
Is there in deed any reason to prefer amd64 over i586 if you have the
choice and a machine with 2GB RAM or less, apart from perhaps long term
support?
Am Do., 14. Apr. 2022 um 10:38 Uhr schrieb Paul Wise :
> On Tue, 2022-04-12 at 05:59 +0200, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
>
> > And if it is indeed
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 02:34:22PM +0200, Elmar Stellnberger wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:11:04PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:18:30PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote:
> What about Spectre /Meltdown? P3/P4/Pentium M systems don´t have that? Core 2
> systems to my
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:11:04PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:18:30PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote:
> > What about Spectre /Meltdown? P3/P4/Pentium M systems don´t have that? Core
> > 2
> > systems to my knowledge can.
>
> There's no reason to believe netburst systems
On 14.04.22 10:37, Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, 2022-04-12 at 05:59 +0200, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
And if it is indeed possible, how can I switch from i386 to
amd64? Can this be done with the apt tools? Then during the
migrating some packages will be from amd64 already while others
will be
On Tue, 2022-04-12 at 05:59 +0200, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
> And if it is indeed possible, how can I switch from i386 to
> amd64? Can this be done with the apt tools? Then during the
> migrating some packages will be from amd64 already while others
> will be still i386. How does that go
What security features do P3/P4/PM systems lack? I only know that the Intel
ME was introduced with early Core 2 systems and that is well known to have
security issues. Today people spend extra money for a system where you can
disable the ME in the UEFI though it is only disabled by a setting then
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:18:30PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote:
What about Spectre /Meltdown? P3/P4/Pentium M systems don´t have that? Core 2
systems to my knowledge can.
There's no reason to believe netburst systems are not affected by any of
the cpu issues identified in the past few years,
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 07:18:53PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote:
If I would get an x64 CPU from a Linux pro, sure I would take it. Otherwise I
would not recommend to just take any old hardware for exchange with my working
one since not all of it was easily well supported by Linux these days, as far
On 13.04.22 16:44, piorunz wrote:
On 12/04/2022 04:59, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
And if it is indeed possible, how can I switch from i386 to amd64? Can
this be done with the apt tools? Then during the migrating some packages
will be from amd64 already while others will be still i386. How
On 13.04.22 19:18, Levis Yarema wrote:
If I would get an x64 CPU from a Linux pro, sure I would take it.
Otherwise I would not recommend to just take any old hardware for
exchange with my working one since not all of it was easily well
supported by Linux these days, as far as I can remember.
On 13.04.22 17:11, piorunz wrote:
> On 13/04/2022 15:57, Michael Stone wrote:
>
>> family 15 model 2 is northwood based. no amd64. the best option for that
>> one is to find a cheap second hand box with a CPU that's only 10 years
>> old instead of (literally) 20 years old and retire it; those old
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:32:10PM +0200, Odo Poppinger wrote:
I have a beloved P4 Gericom Frontman and I do not want to give it
away.
and that's fine, but it's increasingly unreasonable to try to run a
modern general purpose OS on hardware that's 20 years old. if the driver
is nostalgia,
I have a beloved P4 Gericom Frontman and I do not want to give it away.
It had a new game changing design as can today be found with many Apple
computers. I also have a P4 notebook and some i386 desktops, some of
which I am dual booting with some Windows and OS/2. New computers with a
setup
On 13/04/2022 15:57, Michael Stone wrote:
family 15 model 2 is northwood based. no amd64. the best option for that
one is to find a cheap second hand box with a CPU that's only 10 years
old instead of (literally) 20 years old and retire it; those old p4's
were really power hungry, and it
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:44:00PM +0100, piorunz wrote:
On 12/04/2022 04:59, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
You mean, that it is possible to run amd64 on my old hardware
1#
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 22
model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU
On 12/04/2022 04:59, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
You mean, that it is possible to run amd64 on my old hardware
1#
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 22
model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 440 @ 2.00GHz
stepping : 1
microcode : 0x43
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Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
For the oldstable distribution (buster), these problems have
been fixed in version 91.8.0esr-1~deb10u1.
Where can I get this from for buster and architecture i386?
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