Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-03-30 Thread martin f krafft

also sprach Ivo Timmermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.30.0845 +0100]:
> > okay, but noone knows about it. why isn't it on security.debian.org
> > yet???
> 
> Beats me...

i don't get it. will someone please push this package ivo made as an
NMU into security.debian.org ASAP? i'd do it myself, but i am still
waiting for DAM approval...

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scp and sftp

2002-03-30 Thread Jon McCain

I've been playing around with the scp and sftp components of putty and
noticed what I consider a security hole.  Winscp does the same thing. 
The user can change to directories above their home.  Is there a way to
chroot them like you can in an ftp config file?  I don't see anything in
the sshd config files.  If you can't, how can I disable the scp
functionality?  I'm not talking about scp from the linux box.  The users
don't have shell access so that's not a problem.  I'm referring to
remote people using a scp client to access my linux machine.  You can
disable sftp ability by removing the sftp-server program but the scp
server part seems to be part of sshd.

I did not see anything about this issue on the openssh web site. 
Anybody got any suggestions?


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Re: scp and sftp

2002-03-30 Thread Junichi Uekawa

Jon McCain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:

> I've been playing around with the scp and sftp components of putty and
> noticed what I consider a security hole.  Winscp does the same thing. 
> The user can change to directories above their home.  Is there a way to
> chroot them like you can in an ftp config file?  I don't see anything in
> the sshd config files.  If you can't, how can I disable the scp
> functionality?  I'm not talking about scp from the linux box.  The users
> don't have shell access so that's not a problem.  I'm referring to
> remote people using a scp client to access my linux machine.  You can
> disable sftp ability by removing the sftp-server program but the scp
> server part seems to be part of sshd.

I'd be interested to know how you give scp access without 
giving shell access.




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junichi

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Re: scp and sftp

2002-03-30 Thread Alvin Oga


hi ya

i'd do it with automounter w/ ssh ???

mount  remote:/home/httpd/html /mnt/html
scp /home/user/new_site.html  /mnt/html
sync
umount /mnt/html

mount is not needed if it is configured to auotmount
and  does NOT need shell account on the remote web server

you also cannot cd /  on the remote pc either...


if remote.foo.com is locally accessible ( 192.168.xx ) to
user_pc.foo.com than its not a bigg issue... fairly simple 
and sorta safe??

c ya
alvin


On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote:

> Jon McCain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:
> 
> > I've been playing around with the scp and sftp components of putty and
> > noticed what I consider a security hole.  Winscp does the same thing. 
> > The user can change to directories above their home.  Is there a way to
> > chroot them like you can in an ftp config file?  I don't see anything in
> > the sshd config files.  If you can't, how can I disable the scp
> > functionality?  I'm not talking about scp from the linux box.  The users
> > don't have shell access so that's not a problem.  I'm referring to
> > remote people using a scp client to access my linux machine.  You can
> > disable sftp ability by removing the sftp-server program but the scp
> > server part seems to be part of sshd.
> 
> I'd be interested to know how you give scp access without 
> giving shell access.
> 


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Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-03-30 Thread Ivo Timmermans
martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Noah Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.29.2332 +0100]:
> > Such a package has existed at http://people.debian.org/~ivo/ for over a
> > year.
> 
> okay, but noone knows about it. why isn't it on security.debian.org
> yet???

Beats me...


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Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-03-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ivo Timmermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.30.0845 +0100]:
> > okay, but noone knows about it. why isn't it on security.debian.org
> > yet???
> 
> Beats me...

i don't get it. will someone please push this package ivo made as an
NMU into security.debian.org ASAP? i'd do it myself, but i am still
waiting for DAM approval...

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scp and sftp

2002-03-30 Thread Jon McCain
I've been playing around with the scp and sftp components of putty and
noticed what I consider a security hole.  Winscp does the same thing. 
The user can change to directories above their home.  Is there a way to
chroot them like you can in an ftp config file?  I don't see anything in
the sshd config files.  If you can't, how can I disable the scp
functionality?  I'm not talking about scp from the linux box.  The users
don't have shell access so that's not a problem.  I'm referring to
remote people using a scp client to access my linux machine.  You can
disable sftp ability by removing the sftp-server program but the scp
server part seems to be part of sshd.

I did not see anything about this issue on the openssh web site. 
Anybody got any suggestions?


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Re: scp and sftp

2002-03-30 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Jon McCain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:

> I've been playing around with the scp and sftp components of putty and
> noticed what I consider a security hole.  Winscp does the same thing. 
> The user can change to directories above their home.  Is there a way to
> chroot them like you can in an ftp config file?  I don't see anything in
> the sshd config files.  If you can't, how can I disable the scp
> functionality?  I'm not talking about scp from the linux box.  The users
> don't have shell access so that's not a problem.  I'm referring to
> remote people using a scp client to access my linux machine.  You can
> disable sftp ability by removing the sftp-server program but the scp
> server part seems to be part of sshd.

I'd be interested to know how you give scp access without 
giving shell access.




regards,
junichi

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Re: scp and sftp

2002-03-30 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya

i'd do it with automounter w/ ssh ???

mount  remote:/home/httpd/html /mnt/html
scp /home/user/new_site.html  /mnt/html
sync
umount /mnt/html

mount is not needed if it is configured to auotmount
and  does NOT need shell account on the remote web server

you also cannot cd /  on the remote pc either...


if remote.foo.com is locally accessible ( 192.168.xx ) to
user_pc.foo.com than its not a bigg issue... fairly simple 
and sorta safe??

c ya
alvin


On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote:

> Jon McCain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:
> 
> > I've been playing around with the scp and sftp components of putty and
> > noticed what I consider a security hole.  Winscp does the same thing. 
> > The user can change to directories above their home.  Is there a way to
> > chroot them like you can in an ftp config file?  I don't see anything in
> > the sshd config files.  If you can't, how can I disable the scp
> > functionality?  I'm not talking about scp from the linux box.  The users
> > don't have shell access so that's not a problem.  I'm referring to
> > remote people using a scp client to access my linux machine.  You can
> > disable sftp ability by removing the sftp-server program but the scp
> > server part seems to be part of sshd.
> 
> I'd be interested to know how you give scp access without 
> giving shell access.
> 


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