Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Detlef Johanning
At 16:14 29.09.2003, you wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: There is another common case I'd not mentioned. Since I do a lot of development work, I tend to have a *lot* of servers installed on my laptop, ready to run, but only when I need them. I do this

Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 08:51:45AM +0200, Detlef Johanning wrote: My business is just like yours. Since I've always managed the /etc/rc?.d directories by hand the [trivial] solutuin for me is to remove the symlinks the install scripts create. You can also use update-rc or whatever Debian

Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:06:43AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: I would consider implementing an iptables firewall (whether it be shorewall or home brewed (if you know what you are doing)) to be a bare minimum for best-practices. Unfortunately (unlike RedHat and Mandrake) Debian offers

Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:30:44PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Wrong. The kernel shipped in Debian does provide firewalling capabilities. Also, the iptables package is part of the default installation (Priority: standard) No, right. There is no configuration provided, making

Re: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-30 Thread Jeff Wiegley
Richard A Nelson wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Jeff Wiegley wrote: I'm very tired of struggling with sendmail to get it to support STARTTLS and SMTPAUTH under debian. More on this in a minute... STARTTLS is a pretty easy single include line in the .mc files. Yes, and more secure to boot -

Re: FIXED: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-30 Thread Jeff Wiegley
Look like I got this fixed. I had to reboot my machine that seemed to do the trick. My guess is that evolution cached some cert along the way and only cleared it out when I rebooted. hmmm. Unix does occasionally need to be rebooted. Go figure. Thank for the help, - Jeff Maybe somebody else can

Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Detlef Johanning
At 16:14 29.09.2003, you wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: There is another common case I'd not mentioned. Since I do a lot of development work, I tend to have a *lot* of servers installed on my laptop, ready to run, but only when I need them. I do this

Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 08:51:45AM +0200, Detlef Johanning wrote: My business is just like yours. Since I've always managed the /etc/rc?.d directories by hand the [trivial] solutuin for me is to remove the symlinks the install scripts create. You can also use update-rc or whatever Debian

Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:06:43AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: I would consider implementing an iptables firewall (whether it be shorewall or home brewed (if you know what you are doing)) to be a bare minimum for best-practices. Unfortunately (unlike RedHat and Mandrake) Debian offers

Re: services installed and running out of the box

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 04:30:44PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Wrong. The kernel shipped in Debian does provide firewalling capabilities. Also, the iptables package is part of the default installation (Priority: standard) No, right. There is no configuration provided, making

Re: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-30 Thread Jeff Wiegley
Richard A Nelson wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Jeff Wiegley wrote: I'm very tired of struggling with sendmail to get it to support STARTTLS and SMTPAUTH under debian. More on this in a minute... STARTTLS is a pretty easy single include line in the .mc files. Yes, and more secure to

Re: FIXED: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-30 Thread Jeff Wiegley
Look like I got this fixed. I had to reboot my machine that seemed to do the trick. My guess is that evolution cached some cert along the way and only cleared it out when I rebooted. hmmm. Unix does occasionally need to be rebooted. Go figure. Thank for the help, - Jeff Maybe somebody else