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Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:59:01AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Anyone with the time and ability can work on a project like this without joining the security team. Mozilla in particular is a huge amount of work to bring up to date and so far no one has found it critical enough relative to the

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:58:14PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: I suspect that the problem can be with old glibc (2.2.5) but I'm not sure. Because that I'd like to ask should I backport glibc from sarge? There have been some changes to the way libxattr works. From memory I think that you

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:26, Milan P. Stanic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been some changes to the way libxattr works. From memory I think that you needed an extra -l option on the link command line when compiling with old libc6. I can't remember whether it was linking the PAM

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:04:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: So, the question: how can I link libattr to libselinux1? Edit src/Makefile and add -lattr in the $(CC) line for $(LIBSO). That is. I just rebuilt policycoreutils and pam with libselinux1 which is linked with libattr and it was

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Jan Lühr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are discussed publicly? Can they be backported easily? -- Current mail

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Jan Lühr
Greetings, Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 17:06 schrieben Sie: Jan Lühr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are discussed

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 05:06:12PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Jan L?hr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Jan Lühr wrote: Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 17:06 schrieben Sie: Jan Lühr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 07:44:11PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Hmm, has there been any Mozilla security update for woody? This looks like a *lot* of work. Maybe it's better to take some other distribution's Mozilla 1.4 package and ship that. 8- That's highly unlikely to happen. It's been

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 07:44:11PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Hmm, has there been any Mozilla security update for woody? This looks like a *lot* of work. Maybe it's better to take some other distribution's Mozilla 1.4 package and ship that. 8- That's highly

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:34:44PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: It was, generally, a fairly painful experience, and although I did get some patches applied (and tested!) I never felt like I made significant progress toward fixing all the known bugs. This was my feeling as well, applying

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:48:02PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Noah Meyerhans wrote: Hi, That's highly unlikely to happen. It's been discussed before. In fact, at one point somebody uploaded mozilla 1.0.2 to stable-proposed-updates, but that was rejected. Apparently, although the

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 01:29:16PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote: That is. I just rebuilt policycoreutils and pam with libselinux1 which is linked with libattr and it was smooth. Now I have to backport coreutils and sysvinit, huh. Hate to reply myself, but I'd like to inform you that I

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Sven Hoexter wrote: Okay, if that's the case, I'm going to start a campaign for including Mozilla 1.4 (plus fixes) in stable. Well why just include 1.4 and not 1.6? AFAIK, 1.4 is the more stable branch, and fixes are still backported to it (at least by MandrakeSoft 8-). -- Current mail

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Sven Hoexter wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:48:02PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: [...] Okay, if that's the case, I'm going to start a campaign for including Mozilla 1.4 (plus fixes) in stable. Well why just include 1.4 and not 1.6? I know that the backports.org mozilla packages are

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:22, Milan P. Stanic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 01:29:16PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote: That is. I just rebuilt policycoreutils and pam with libselinux1 which is linked with libattr and it was smooth. Now I have to backport coreutils and

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:59:01AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Anyone with the time and ability can work on a project like this without joining the security team. Mozilla in particular is a huge amount of work to bring up to date and so far no one has found it critical enough relative to the

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:58:14PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: I suspect that the problem can be with old glibc (2.2.5) but I'm not sure. Because that I'd like to ask should I backport glibc from sarge? There have been some changes to the way libxattr works. From memory I think that you

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:26, Milan P. Stanic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been some changes to the way libxattr works. From memory I think that you needed an extra -l option on the link command line when compiling with old libc6. I can't remember whether it was linking the PAM

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:04:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: So, the question: how can I link libattr to libselinux1? Edit src/Makefile and add -lattr in the $(CC) line for $(LIBSO). That is. I just rebuilt policycoreutils and pam with libselinux1 which is linked with libattr and it was

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Jan Lühr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are discussed publicly? Can they be backported easily? -- Current mail

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Jan Lühr
Greetings, Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 17:06 schrieben Sie: Jan Lühr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are discussed

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 05:06:12PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Jan L?hr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Jan Lühr wrote: Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2004 17:06 schrieben Sie: Jan Lühr wrote: So is mozilla the forgotten package? Considering how popular mozilla is, making it secure would be worth the effort - imho. How many of Mozilla's security bugs which are fix during routine upgrades are

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 07:44:11PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Hmm, has there been any Mozilla security update for woody? This looks like a *lot* of work. Maybe it's better to take some other distribution's Mozilla 1.4 package and ship that. 8- That's highly unlikely to happen. It's been

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 07:44:11PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Hmm, has there been any Mozilla security update for woody? This looks like a *lot* of work. Maybe it's better to take some other distribution's Mozilla 1.4 package and ship that. 8- That's highly

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:34:44PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: It was, generally, a fairly painful experience, and although I did get some patches applied (and tested!) I never felt like I made significant progress toward fixing all the known bugs. This was my feeling as well, applying

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:48:02PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Noah Meyerhans wrote: Hi, That's highly unlikely to happen. It's been discussed before. In fact, at one point somebody uploaded mozilla 1.0.2 to stable-proposed-updates, but that was rejected. Apparently, although the

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 01:29:16PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote: That is. I just rebuilt policycoreutils and pam with libselinux1 which is linked with libattr and it was smooth. Now I have to backport coreutils and sysvinit, huh. Hate to reply myself, but I'd like to inform you that I

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
Sven Hoexter wrote: Okay, if that's the case, I'm going to start a campaign for including Mozilla 1.4 (plus fixes) in stable. Well why just include 1.4 and not 1.6? AFAIK, 1.4 is the more stable branch, and fixes are still backported to it (at least by MandrakeSoft 8-). -- Current mail

Re: mozilla - the forgotten package?

2004-03-10 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Sven Hoexter wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:48:02PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: [...] Okay, if that's the case, I'm going to start a campaign for including Mozilla 1.4 (plus fixes) in stable. Well why just include 1.4 and not 1.6? I know that the backports.org mozilla packages are

Re: Backporting SELinux to woody

2004-03-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:22, Milan P. Stanic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 01:29:16PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote: That is. I just rebuilt policycoreutils and pam with libselinux1 which is linked with libattr and it was smooth. Now I have to backport coreutils and