Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-21 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 07:52:02PM -0700, Jacob Meuser wrote: And whose going to teach them? Certainly not an OS that makes it as easy as 'apt-get install apache' ! Well, your solution of making it more obfuscated and difficult will cause even more of a problem.

Re: --no-run option (was: Re: red worm amusement)

2001-07-22 Thread Rob VanFleet
Exactly. It is more of a special case to *not* want a server to start at boot rather than the other way around. To those who think that apt-get install apache is too easy, then why is apt-get remove apache too hard? -Rob On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 04:00:43PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: On

Re: apt-get install apache (was red worm amusement)

2001-07-22 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 07:28:31PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: If you're upgrading for security and bug fixes, you use upgrade. In michael's defense, take this entry from the apt-get mapage: dist-upgrade dist-upgrade, in addition to performing the func­

Re: Mutt and inline gpg

2001-08-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 05:26:50PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: option pgp_create_traditional. That option might help you very much, but instead I would suggest that the other MUA's get fixed. Um, wouldn't that be every other MUA asid from mutt and maybe one or two others? -Rob -- To

LogCheck Issues

2001-09-14 Thread Rob VanFleet
I seem to be having a small problem with something in the logcheck.ignore file. The default setup for the logcheck package under debian already contains this entry in logcheck.ignore to avoid reporting this common cron job: /USR/SBIN/CRON\[.*\]: (mail) CMD ( if \[ -x /usr/sbin/exim \]; then

Re: BugTraq Kernel 2.2.19

2001-10-19 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 12:24:45PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: i think Linus has already approved the patch. im not sure yet when will it arrive though.. Yes, the email linked to by that /. posting :

/bin/passwd as shell

2002-01-23 Thread Rob VanFleet
On this list (I beleive) I saw someone mention the use of /bin/passwd as a shell for mail-only users so they can easily change their password without having to ask someone. Is this a secure option, or am I missing some glaring problems? If so, what are some other possible solutions? Thanks,

Re: /bin/passwd as shell

2002-01-24 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 07:23:35AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Rob VanFleet On this list (I beleive) I saw someone mention the use of /bin/passwd as a shell for mail-only users so they can easily change their password without having to ask someone. Is this a secure

Re: scp and sftp

2002-04-01 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:35:35AM -0500, Jon McCain wrote: But changing permissions on the .bash_profile so they don't own it (and not in their group) should take care of that problem. They can read it all they want, just not change it. A cleaner solution would be to make it immutable. (as

NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-07 Thread Rob VanFleet
I have a situation where my superiors are leaning heavily on me to make life more convenient for them by having total availability of data from a group of machines. They basically want to log into any one machine within this group with the same password, and be able to access any disks they

Re: NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-07 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 07:39:43PM -0700, Luca Filipozzi wrote: Two choices for authentication (passwd + shadow): (1) Kerberos Never used it. Can't advise you. I've looked at Kerberos, but at least a cursory glance at leaves the impressions that it is ridiculously complicated to set up

Re: NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:37:27PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Alan Shutko wrote: An AFS-based setup is used at many places to great effect, especially on untrusted nets, but I don't know how bad setup is. I suspect it's evil. There is also SFS which works very nicely

Re: NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:23:28AM -0700, Luca Filipozzi wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:51:38AM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote: After doing some reading about it, the only thing that turns me off to SFS is that you still have to run the usual NFS services for it to work. A large part

Re: [OT] please do not ...

2002-11-16 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 11:55:49AM +0100, poczta wrote: people, do not respond to 'unsubscribe' messages, 'cause from on mail it grows to many messages, so think twice before you mail on it. thanks or at the very least, If you are bound and determined to address this person's erorr, reply to

Apache user pages (was: Re: Permissions on /root/)

2003-03-10 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 08:16:38PM +0100, Thomas Sj?gren wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Birzan George Cristian wrote: It should be locked down and not touched by adduser (Would You Like To Make All Homedirs World-Readable?). root is not the regular user. Users need o+x on their home dirs

Re: Passwordless Authentication (was Re: How to reduce sid security)

2003-08-01 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 11:04:32AM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Friday 01 August 2003 04:10, Peter Cordes wrote: You should use ssh-keygen to create a keypair on each machine, and copy the public key from the machine you generated it on to the other machine. This allows quick

Re: red worm amusement

2001-07-22 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 07:52:02PM -0700, Jacob Meuser wrote: And whose going to teach them? Certainly not an OS that makes it as easy as 'apt-get install apache' ! Well, your solution of making it more obfuscated and difficult will cause even more of a problem.

Re: apt-get install apache (was red worm amusement)

2001-07-22 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 07:59:47AM -0500, chandler wrote: Similarly, after a recent apt-get dist-upgrade (intended to grab security updates only, Then why did you dist-upgrade? I think it's pretty self-explanatory that if you're upgrading from one distribution to another (like from stable to

Re: --no-run option (was: Re: red worm amusement)

2001-07-22 Thread Rob VanFleet
Exactly. It is more of a special case to *not* want a server to start at boot rather than the other way around. To those who think that apt-get install apache is too easy, then why is apt-get remove apache too hard? -Rob On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 04:00:43PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: On

Re: Mutt and inline gpg

2001-08-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 05:26:50PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: option pgp_create_traditional. That option might help you very much, but instead I would suggest that the other MUA's get fixed. Um, wouldn't that be every other MUA asid from mutt and maybe one or two others? -Rob

LogCheck Issues

2001-09-14 Thread Rob VanFleet
I seem to be having a small problem with something in the logcheck.ignore file. The default setup for the logcheck package under debian already contains this entry in logcheck.ignore to avoid reporting this common cron job: /USR/SBIN/CRON\[.*\]: (mail) CMD ( if \[ -x /usr/sbin/exim \]; then

Re: BugTraq Kernel 2.2.19

2001-10-19 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 12:24:45PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: i think Linus has already approved the patch. im not sure yet when will it arrive though.. Yes, the email linked to by that /. posting :

Re: /bin/passwd as shell

2002-01-24 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 07:23:35AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Rob VanFleet On this list (I beleive) I saw someone mention the use of /bin/passwd as a shell for mail-only users so they can easily change their password without having to ask someone. Is this a secure option

Re: scp and sftp

2002-04-01 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:35:35AM -0500, Jon McCain wrote: But changing permissions on the .bash_profile so they don't own it (and not in their group) should take care of that problem. They can read it all they want, just not change it. A cleaner solution would be to make it immutable. (as

NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-07 Thread Rob VanFleet
I have a situation where my superiors are leaning heavily on me to make life more convenient for them by having total availability of data from a group of machines. They basically want to log into any one machine within this group with the same password, and be able to access any disks they

Re: NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-07 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 07:39:43PM -0700, Luca Filipozzi wrote: Two choices for authentication (passwd + shadow): (1) Kerberos Never used it. Can't advise you. I've looked at Kerberos, but at least a cursory glance at leaves the impressions that it is ridiculously complicated to set up and

Re: NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:37:27PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Alan Shutko wrote: An AFS-based setup is used at many places to great effect, especially on untrusted nets, but I don't know how bad setup is. I suspect it's evil. There is also SFS which works very nicely

Re: NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:23:28AM -0700, Luca Filipozzi wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:51:38AM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote: After doing some reading about it, the only thing that turns me off to SFS is that you still have to run the usual NFS services for it to work. A large part

Re: NFS, password transparency, and security

2002-04-11 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:21:13AM +0100, Gareth Bowker wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:02:34PM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:23:28AM -0700, Luca Filipozzi wrote: You run those service locally on each machine only. You don't make them available to other

SSH RSA Authentication

2002-06-22 Thread Rob VanFleet
I am trying to use RSA authentication between different machines, but I'm running into trouble between machines running different versions of ssh. Machine A is running unstable with OpenSSH 3.0.2p1, and it is trying to connect to machine B running stable, with a compiled from source ssh, version

Re: SSH RSA Authentication

2002-06-22 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 07:50:07PM +0200, Dietmar Goldbeck wrote: It is very difficult to help you without error messages, since there shouldn't be a problem. openssh 3.0.2 and 3.2.3 play perfectly well with each other. There weren't any error messages, otherwise I would have provided them.

Re: PermitRootLogin enabled by default

2002-06-26 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:11:00PM +0200, InfoEmergencias - Luis Gómez wrote: Hi all Messing up with sshd_config for all the privsep stuff, I've noticed that PermitRootLogin was set to yes in my three woody boxes. I usually consider this a problem (although it has been my fault - i should

Re: Some more port closing questions

2002-07-30 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 01:22:50PM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 at 11:09:49AM -0600, Crawford Rainwater wrote: Thanks to all on the Portsentry issue I had a week ago. Along those same lines, I have two ports I cannot figure out (even looking through the LDP) on

Re: [OT] please do not ...

2002-11-16 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 11:55:49AM +0100, poczta wrote: people, do not respond to 'unsubscribe' messages, 'cause from on mail it grows to many messages, so think twice before you mail on it. thanks or at the very least, If you are bound and determined to address this person's erorr, reply to

Apache user pages (was: Re: Permissions on /root/)

2003-03-10 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 08:16:38PM +0100, Thomas Sj?gren wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Birzan George Cristian wrote: It should be locked down and not touched by adduser (Would You Like To Make All Homedirs World-Readable?). root is not the regular user. Users need o+x on their home dirs

Re: Passwordless Authentication (was Re: How to reduce sid security)

2003-08-01 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 11:04:32AM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Friday 01 August 2003 04:10, Peter Cordes wrote: You should use ssh-keygen to create a keypair on each machine, and copy the public key from the machine you generated it on to the other machine. This allows quick