Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/11/2016 04:15 PM, alexmcwhir...@triadic.us wrote: > "Pulled the plug" as in future releases of the sparc port ceased in it's > current form (64bit kernel 32 bit userland). Well, we didn't pull the plug on Squeeze. We dropped support for 32-bit SPARC with a 64-bit kernel in general, mainly

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-11 Thread alexmcwhirter
On 2016-06-11 05:15, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 06/10/2016 08:46 PM, alexmcwhir...@triadic.us wrote: Squeeze may be stable on x86, but it's quite the contrary on sparc. Your talking about a release that was so unmaintained on sparc that they had to pull the plug on it

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/10/2016 08:46 PM, alexmcwhir...@triadic.us wrote: > Squeeze may be stable on x86, but it's quite the contrary on sparc. Your > talking about a release that was so unmaintained on sparc that they had to > pull the > plug on it afterwards.Squeeze crashes on almost all of my sparc gear. This

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-10 Thread alexmcwhirter
On 2016-06-10 16:55, Chris wrote: On 06/10/16 11:26, Hermann Lauer wrote: Hello Chris, On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:00:25AM +, Chris wrote: I know Debian 7 is unsupported on Sparc and that bugs won't be fixed, but I don't care. Once the OS is installed and stable, I really don't need or

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-10 Thread Chris
On 06/10/16 11:26, Hermann Lauer wrote: Hello Chris, On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:00:25AM +, Chris wrote: I know Debian 7 is unsupported on Sparc and that bugs won't be fixed, but I don't care. Once the OS is installed and stable, I really don't need or expect support or patches. Apart from

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-10 Thread alexmcwhirter
On 2016-06-10 07:00, Chris wrote: Warning, long reply, may need coffee :-)... I know Debian 7 is unsupported on Sparc and that bugs won't be fixed, but I don't care. Once the OS is installed and stable, I really don't need or expect support or patches. Apart from adding a few packages, nothing

Re: Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-10 Thread Hermann Lauer
Hello Chris, On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:00:25AM +, Chris wrote: > I know Debian 7 is unsupported on Sparc and that bugs won't be fixed, > but I don't care. Once the OS is installed and stable, I really don't > need or expect support or patches. Apart from adding a few packages, > nothing is

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/10/2016 01:00 PM, Chris wrote: > Ok, one reason for looking at older versions is that i'm not happy > about the current Linux direction. As an engineer, efficiency is > important and mainstream Linux becomes ever more complex and > interdependent. Debian has been the favourite Linux for >

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-10 Thread Chris
On 06/09/16 09:20, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I guess we could probably convince DSA to use T5 machines if someone were to donate these as long these particular machines have not seen too much usage yet. I actually don't think that even T5 machines that have seen some use already would be

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-10 Thread Chris
On 06/09/16 06:50, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello Chris! Debian Wheezy is already no longer supported, except for the LTS branch which deals with i386 and amd64 architectures only. Thus, any issues you may have that are related to bugs will never be fixed. Plus, since Debian Wheezy, we

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-09 Thread alexmcwhirter
On 2016-06-09 05:19, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Alex! On 06/09/2016 09:12 AM, Alex McWhirter wrote: How "new" does a system have to be in order to meet these requirements. T-5 machines are probably not too hard to come by, but the starting price of a T-7 machine is around 40K USD

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-09 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Alex! On 06/09/2016 09:12 AM, Alex McWhirter wrote: > How "new" does a system have to be in order to meet these requirements. T-5 > machines are probably not too hard to come by, but the starting price of a T-7 > machine is around 40K USD IIRC. It doesn't have to be bleeding edge technology

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-09 Thread Alex McWhirter
different hardware. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> Date: 6/9/2016 2:47 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Chris <sys...@gfsys.co.uk> Cc: debian-sparc <debian-sparc@lists.debian.org> Subj

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-09 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Chris! On 06/08/2016 06:56 PM, Chris wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I would like to try later builds and get more > involved with the dev process, but right now, I need to understand > why 7.10.0 isn't working. Debian Wheezy is already no longer supported, except for the LTS branch which

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-08 Thread Tom Turelinckx
> on a V210, with gui which is stable. Problem is that none of the > repositories for Squeeze work any more and it's not clear if they > are available somewhere else, or have just been deleted ?. Squeeze has been moved to the debian archive. This sources.list snippet should work: deb

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-08 Thread Patrick Baggett
Hey Chris! Great to hear from a long-time sparc user. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Chris wrote: >> >> Try our latest sparc64 build. It still has some rough edges, but you should >> be able to get the system installed. Has a much more recent kernel and >> userland: > > >

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-08 Thread Chris
Try our latest sparc64 build. It still has some rough edges, but you should be able to get the system installed. Has a much more recent kernel and userland: Adrian, Thanks for the reply. I would like to try later builds and get more involved with the dev process, but right now, I need to

Re: Debian Sparc 7.10.0 Install Problems

2016-06-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/08/2016 05:02 PM, Chris wrote: > I've been trying to get Debian Sparc 7.10.0 installed on a Sun > V215 with an XVR300 graphics card with little success. Wanted > to try 7.10.0, as it seemsto be the last supported Debian for > Sparc. I installed Squeeze onto a V210 with XVR100 a few years >