Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Rich!

On 11/20/21 11:08, Rich wrote:
> I did - that's the commit that I mentioned there, 7d5ec3d3.
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit?id=7d5ec3d3

Perfect, thank you!

> I reported it to linux-pci@ since it was there; I can easily go CC the
> original author and linux-sparc@, but wasn't sure of the etiquette
> involved, and didn't want to just blast multiple lists.

I fully agree.

Adrian

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Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-20 Thread Rich
I did - that's the commit that I mentioned there, 7d5ec3d3.
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit?id=7d5ec3d3

I reported it to linux-pci@ since it was there; I can easily go CC the
original author and linux-sparc@, but wasn't sure of the etiquette
involved, and didn't want to just blast multiple lists.

- Rich

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 5:06 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
>
> Hello Rich!
>
> On 11/20/21 07:38, Rich wrote:
> > Curiously, I didn't see other people's replies to my message, probably
> > due to not being subscribed. I figured at the point where I just
> > bought another SPARC, I might as well...
> >
> > I've done some digging into it. The short version is that commit
> > 7d5ec3d3 introduced the readl() at
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/drivers/pci/msi.c?h=v5.14#n748
> > , and for reasons that are currently opaque to me not being familiar
> > with low-level SPARC details, that dies in a fire.
> >
> > Just short-circuiting it to 1 instead of calling readl() seems to
> > function fine for my system, but isn't a great general solution...
>
> I would suggest bisecting the kernel to this point where the breakage was
> introduced and report the bug to the author of the original change as well
> as the SPARC Linux kernel mailing list [1].
>
> Adrian
>
> > [1] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#sparclinux
>
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Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Rich!

On 11/20/21 07:38, Rich wrote:
> Curiously, I didn't see other people's replies to my message, probably
> due to not being subscribed. I figured at the point where I just
> bought another SPARC, I might as well...
> 
> I've done some digging into it. The short version is that commit
> 7d5ec3d3 introduced the readl() at
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/drivers/pci/msi.c?h=v5.14#n748
> , and for reasons that are currently opaque to me not being familiar
> with low-level SPARC details, that dies in a fire.
> 
> Just short-circuiting it to 1 instead of calling readl() seems to
> function fine for my system, but isn't a great general solution...

I would suggest bisecting the kernel to this point where the breakage was
introduced and report the bug to the author of the original change as well
as the SPARC Linux kernel mailing list [1].

Adrian

> [1] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#sparclinux

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Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-19 Thread Rich
Curiously, I didn't see other people's replies to my message, probably
due to not being subscribed. I figured at the point where I just
bought another SPARC, I might as well...

I've done some digging into it. The short version is that commit
7d5ec3d3 introduced the readl() at
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/drivers/pci/msi.c?h=v5.14#n748
, and for reasons that are currently opaque to me not being familiar
with low-level SPARC details, that dies in a fire.

Just short-circuiting it to 1 instead of calling readl() seems to
function fine for my system, but isn't a great general solution...

(Bonus fun - my T5140 is currently booting from a /boot on a USB drive
and a / on an LSI SAS2 PCIe controller because A) the onboard SAS1
card is faulted and not obviously fixable, and B) I only figured out
how to get the SAS2 disks to show up as a bootable device by loading
the FCode blob onto the card after I did the install...I should
probably migrate that at some point.)

Last bit of fun is that Linux seems to be misinterpreting the
local-mac-address? setting and just unconditionally overriding
_everything_'s MAC with the system's, whether it's set to true or
false. (Amusingly, the "niu" driver has special casing for this and
instead of setting everything to e.g. 00:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa, sets the
first port to 00:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa, second to 00:aa:aa:aa:aa:ab, and so
on.)

- Rich

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:39 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
>
> Hello Rich!
>
> On 11/16/21 04:19, Rich wrote:
> > Anybody have a suggestion for how to not get burned by this? I can try
> > just booting older and older snapshots, but I only have so many
> > burnable discs.
>
> Try this image which has a 4.19 kernel which is known to be less problematic
> on older SPARCs:
>
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2019-07-16/debian-10.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso
>
> Adrian
>
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Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-16 Thread Nemo Nusquam

Greetings, Adrian.

On 2021-11-16 03:39, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Hello Rich!

On 11/16/21 04:19, Rich wrote:

Anybody have a suggestion for how to not get burned by this? I can try
just booting older and older snapshots, but I only have so many
burnable discs.

Try this image which has a 4.19 kernel which is known to be less problematic
on older SPARCs:


https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2019-07-16/debian-10.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso


Will this work on a SB2000?  I tried older Debian releases and there 
were problems with FC.


Sincerely,
N.



Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Rich!

On 11/16/21 04:19, Rich wrote:
> Anybody have a suggestion for how to not get burned by this? I can try
> just booting older and older snapshots, but I only have so many
> burnable discs.

Try this image which has a 4.19 kernel which is known to be less problematic
on older SPARCs:

> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2019-07-16/debian-10.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso

Adrian

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Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 11/15/21 22:19, Rich wrote:
> Hi all,
> So, I came into possession of a T5140, and logically decided to try
> booting Debian on it.
> 

Wish I could help.  I just wanted to say WELL DONE !

I have a Netra sparc unit that seems to run Debian just fine unless I
try to do update-grub where it just panics.

I am going to try, next week?, to boot a Fujitsu/Oracle M4000 unit that
is laying around in my life. Should be a right royal disaster but I will
certainly report progress.



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