Re: 1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Derek Lee wrote: My system is a Dell XPS which I don't think is so uncommon, and it came with a PS2 mouse. So please please please include psaux support as a module in the kernel-image packages. This is a 'me-too' message. Gateway 2000 computers also come with a PS2

RE: Local area talk protocal (LAT)?

1996-06-15 Thread Dick Sudbury
Hi there, It's my understanding that this LAT is sort of like a Chat setup. If you want to connect to an NT network, I would suggest using the Simba package. There is a real good article on it in this months Linux Journal. I'm no Expert on this, but it sounds like the way to go to me. Yours,

Re: ftp-install problem in Debian 1.11

1996-06-15 Thread Bruce Perens
I added 5 more perl files, and the next boot floppy set should run dpkg-ftp correctly. Thanks Bruce

Re: 1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-15 Thread Bruce Perens
In particular, I find dselect-1.2.6 much nicer than 1.2.3. I moved it into buzz just now. Less important, but more jarring, is that the system is installed with kernel 2.0.0, but all the devel/ stuff is still 1.99.7. If Simon doesn't do a 2.0 package in time, I will upload one - I built my

Re: Packages file for buzz

1996-06-15 Thread Bruce Perens
The Packages file for 'buzz' still references all packages to the 'unstable' directory. Is this a bug? It got better. Bruce

RE: Local area talk protocal (LAT)?

1996-06-15 Thread Bruce Perens
I would suggest using the Simba package. That's samba. There's also smbfs. Samba provides file and printer services, and a printer client to systems that run the Lan Manager protocol over TCP/IP, which is what NT and Windows 95 use for their native network. smbfs makes the Linux system a client

manpage compression

1996-06-15 Thread Derek Lee
Hi, I notice that the debian packages install man pages without compression. If I would like to gzip all my man pages to save space, is there some way ask the install scripts to do so? I cannot just go in and gzip all the files in my /usr/man directories because: (1) If all my man pages have

Re: manpage compression

1996-06-15 Thread Rob Browning
Derek Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is there some way ask the install scripts to do so? I cannot just go This issue has been discussed, but not resolved. It was decided to wait until after the 1.1 release to deal with it. For now you would probably be better off to try and just live with the

Re: manpage compression

1996-06-15 Thread Bruce Perens
I think the last time we discussed this on the mailing lists, we decided that there was no problem with compressed man page source. The decompressor runs quickly, the man browsers all understand .gz files, etc. I think that it's OK for packages to start installing compressed man pages.

Re: straightening out NFS

1996-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: I can't quite get nfs going for some reason. I had it going quickly under the 1.2 kernel (i have 2 machines sitting here). I uncommented everything in /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs. I added / to exports. I added ALL: .iastate.edu to hosts.allow. ANd

Re: Debian 1.1beta problems

1996-06-15 Thread Amos Shapira
Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: |I created my own .xsession, but still got an xterm. It seems that |_both_ /etc/X11/Xsession and ~/.xsession get run - is this right? |Does this mean that the only way to stop the xterm automatically |coming up is to edit /etc/X11/Xsession? Not so.

critical :) nethack question

1996-06-15 Thread Rick Hawkins
this may seem silly, but i haven't had a working nethack since law school . . . Is there a way to open the chests other than kicking them? would this stop the potions from shattering? if i recompile, can i add monsters? or is there already a graduate students version out there with assorted

Re: man dpkg

1996-06-15 Thread Amos Shapira
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: |I wrote: |Is it true that there is not manual entry for dpkg or dselect?! | |My system doesn't think there is. dpkg doesn't have a manual page. instead it has a page inviting people to write one. | |Come to think of it, my system doesn't think there are

Re: critical :) nethack question

1996-06-15 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] this may seem silly, but i haven't had a working nethack since law school . . . Is there a way to open the chests other than kicking them? would this stop the potions from shattering? if i recompile, can i add monsters? or is there already a graduate

Re: Local area talk protocal (LAT)?

1996-06-15 Thread Bruce Perens
Using the Windows Fro Workgroups there is a terminal emulation/connection software called SmarTerm that uses a LAT protocal to connect to the other machine through the Windows NT net. Sorry if my previous answer was off-topic. I think I was answering an answer, not the question. Use telnet.

Re: Local area talk protocal (LAT)?

1996-06-15 Thread Richard G. Roberto
LAT is a DEC protocol! There used to be a commercial package available for unix called SuperLAT that emulated lat over TCP/IP and allowed incoming LAT conections, but I don't know of anything available for linux. I don't think SAMBA has LAT capabilities. It would be nice though, telnet and

Re: critical :) nethack question

1996-06-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: I work for two years to build the system and this is what people use it for :-) Who do you work for : Anyway, what else would you do with a computer : : -- Rob

Re: Meta/Hierarchical packaging?

1996-06-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amos Shapira) writes: Got the idea? Any comments about it? This kind of thing has been discussed a little, but the discussion was postponed until after the 1.1 release. -- Rob

sendmail 8.7.5-4 is still a.out?

1996-06-15 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, I've just upgraded (or tried to upgrade) the rest of my packages to Debian 1.1. and noticed that sendmail 8.7.5-4 still contains QMAGIC binaries. Does anyone know if this is intentional or should I report it as a bug? Cheers, --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course

Re: stty vs setserial

1996-06-15 Thread Bill Roman
By the way, having 7 data bits and 2 stop bits should be equivalent to having 8 data bits without parity generation and 1 stop bit. This is because the data bits are sent least significant bit first, and a stop bit is the same as a zero data bit. ... Steve Preston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I

Re: straightening out NFS

1996-06-15 Thread Rick Hawkins
[all kinds of useful info . . . ] THe other (the .38 machine) reports during boot that /etc/init.d/rc: /etc/rc2.d/S25netstd_nfs: permission denied. it's probably not executable. check the permissions on the file (remember that /etc/rc2.d/S25netstd_nfs should be a symlink to

man dpkg

1996-06-15 Thread Mark Phillips
Is it true that there is not manual entry for dpkg or dselect?! My system doesn't think there is. How do I find out more about dpkg - the /usr/doc directory doesn't seem to have anything terribly clear. Mark Phillips. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Default Pager

1996-06-15 Thread Noam Rettig
Currently the default pager on my system is 'more'. I want to change it to 'most'. How should I do that? Also, does 'man' use the default system pager. If not, how do I change it (I don't want to use the -P command line option every time I use man)? Thanks for any help, Noam Rettig [EMAIL

Adding a Lilo boot

1996-06-15 Thread Noam Rettig
I have msdos on /dev/hda1 and linux on /dev/hda2. I know that lilo can be configured to boot with either one at startup by pressing the TAB key. How can I add the DOS image to my startup. TIA, Noam Rettig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Meta/Hierarchical packaging?/nfs

1996-06-15 Thread Rick Hawkins
I've been thinking of something along these lines, too: I'm trying to install packages on a machine, but doc man stuff on a separate machine as a server. It isn't working well so far :) I've had reasonable luck linking /usr/doc and /usr/man pages to the nfs host, but the predictable bad

Re: Default Pager

1996-06-15 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Noam Rettig writes: Noam Currently the default pager on my system is 'more'. I want to Noam change it to 'most'. How should I do that? Add this line to /etc/profile (or ~/.bash_profile) export PAGER=most -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd

Re: Adding a Lilo boot

1996-06-15 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Noam Rettig writes: Noam I have msdos on /dev/hda1 and linux on /dev/hda2. I know that lilo Noam can be configured to boot with either one at startup by pressing the Noam TAB key. How can I add the DOS image to my startup. You have to read the LILO documentation in /usr/doc/lilo, or

Re: man dpkg

1996-06-15 Thread Mark Phillips
I wrote: Is it true that there is not manual entry for dpkg or dselect?! My system doesn't think there is. Come to think of it, my system doesn't think there are ANY manual entries!!! I just tried typing man man and this is what happened: (mark, destiny, ~) man man No manual entry for man

Meta/Hierarchical packaging?

1996-06-15 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, I wander if there is any work being done to make Debian packages easier to manage and to fine-tune. What I'm thinking about is something like SGI's inst tool. SGI's tool provides, for each package (e.g. X11) a list of sub-packages which may be selected from it, things like:

Re: kernel-package and Lilo

1996-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Kevin M Bealer wrote: I love the kernel-package thing; but the other day I used it to install a kernel and the vmlinuz.old kernel was not in boot (I deleted it accidentally). The system would not boot -- may I humbly suggest that the install process for the generated

Re: installation notes

1996-06-15 Thread Christian Hudon
On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Guy Maor wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: kerneld should be started before ANYTHING else happens, with the possible exception of a root filesystem check. The reason for this is that it may be needed to load binary-format modules, or

Re: critical :) nethack question

1996-06-15 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: Is there a way to open the chests other than kicking them? would this stop the potions from shattering? This is the wrong forum, but you can use a skeleton key or credit card. There are many references for this game on the net such as the nethack home

Re: man dpkg

1996-06-15 Thread Richard Lovison
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: Is it true that there is not manual entry for dpkg or dselect?! In manpages 1.11-4 there is an entry for dpkg which may be of help. The installation manual for Debian included some info on dselect and if you have access to the web, Debian's homepage

Re: POP forwarding

1996-06-15 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Douglas == Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Douglas However, my Debian Linux machine can reach outside the Douglas firewall and access their home server for them. I think it would not be too difficult to write a POP proxy. You write a little program that runs on your Debian box

Re: Debian 1.1beta problems

1996-06-15 Thread Mark Phillips
* Why do I automatically get an xterm coming up when I start X? It didn't happen with Slackware. This is the default for debian when you don't have your own ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession is where this happens. If you have your own ~/.xsession then whatever's there will have control. I

Re: POP forwarding

1996-06-15 Thread Scott Barker
Kai Grossjohann said: Douglas == Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Douglas However, my Debian Linux machine can reach outside the Douglas firewall and access their home server for them. I think it would not be too difficult to write a POP proxy. You write a little

Re: Adding a Lilo boot

1996-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Noam Rettig wrote: I have msdos on /dev/hda1 and linux on /dev/hda2. I know that lilo can be configured to boot with either one at startup by pressing the TAB key. How can I add the DOS image to my startup. in /etc/lilo.conf other = /dev/hda1 label=dos

Re: critical :) nethack question

1996-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: This is the wrong forum, but you can use a skeleton key or credit card. There are many references for this game on the net such as the nethack home page: http://www.win.tue.nl/games/roguelike/nethack/. One thing worth mentioning on

Re: sendmail 8.7.5-4 is still a.out?

1996-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Amos Shapira wrote: I've just upgraded (or tried to upgrade) the rest of my packages to Debian 1.1. and noticed that sendmail 8.7.5-4 still contains QMAGIC binaries. Does anyone know if this is intentional or should I report it as a bug? Something went wrong with

Re: kernel-package and Lilo

1996-06-15 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: (clipped own stuff) (I'm thinking of the equiv. of lilo (options) || echo Warning! blah blah) and/or could LILO be run in verbose mode? I suggest this because it would have saved me a lot of time.. In other words: (please idiot proof this

Re: straightening out NFS

1996-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: this was also the case. there were a handful of files that somehow lost their execute permissions. I reinstalled from the latest version of the boot disks, changed the 127.0.0.0 problem, uncommented the daemons, and all was well. (hmm, how about

Re: critical :) nethack question

1996-06-15 Thread Amos Shapira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote: |I work for two years to build the system and this is what people use it |for :-) Forgot why UNIX was invented in the first place? :) --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory,

Re: sendmail 8.7.5-4 is still a.out?

1996-06-15 Thread Amos Shapira
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Something went wrong with your upgrade process. sendmail is ELF. | |I use smail mostly, but my gw machine has sendmail installed. here's |what it has: | |$ dpkg -l sendmail |Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge ||

Re: POP forwarding

1996-06-15 Thread Amos Shapira
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: |Kai Grossjohann said: | | Douglas == Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Douglas However, my Debian Linux machine can reach outside the | Douglas firewall and access their home server for them. | | I think it would not be too difficult

Re: sendmail 8.7.5-4 is still a.out?

1996-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Amos Shapira wrote: What are the sizes and times on your binary? $ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 235864 May 7 14:44 /usr/sbin/sendmail $ file /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1,