Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even if there are other factors), I'm not going to be upset if they don't choose Debian. I'm no talking about just the prompt. We're talking about good and

Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please read

1997-02-27 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real embarassing to beat them. So please, if you

Re: wu-ftpd to do virtuals

1997-02-27 Thread Scott Barker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Can anyone tell me what is required to do virtual ftp sites with the standard wu-ftpd distributed on debian ? Nothing. You can't. There is some support for virtual ftp sites in wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-11, which can be gotten from wuarchive.wustl.edu I've also got some

Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please read

1997-02-27 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 01:00 PM 2/26/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote: 1. Do we want it? Do we really want free software to be associated with code-breaking in the eyes of the uneducated public? I'm not sure that would not hurt us. Just think about the articles on a government code being broken using a hacker tool

Re: /dev/cua2 - modem problems! help!

1997-02-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jim Fetters wrote: problem: modem on /dev/cua2 is slow. when you type, it takes 5-7 seconds to get an echo back from the AT commands on modem. symptoms: modem works fine when i boot into windows 95, also modem worked great under Slackware 2.0 (my previous install).

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Walker: I'm not sure about the situation in unstable, but in stable neither the menu package, or fvwm2 seem to provide /etc/menu-methods/fvwm2. This file is available in /usr/doc/menu/examples. Because of this, the menu is not updated by default. Is this the case in unstable or should

Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please read

1997-02-27 Thread Jim Pick
Bruce: From: Mike Neuffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] So far the only thing that Bruce accomplished with his uncoordinated action is that numerous hosts dropped entirely out of the key-search. Big deal. They have years to go. We might ask ourselves some questions about this kind of publicity.

Re: HD prob - bad inodes

1997-02-27 Thread dr. banzai
I am using the I/O controller which is built into the motherboard. My BIOS is set to LBA mode. Get the Large HD HOWTO from sunsite or from the newsgroup linux.answers. I would think it's PM and Linux disk geometry conflict. But it's hard to tell since I don't run PM. I fixed the problem...

Re: pine produces segmentation faults (fwd)

1997-02-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Bruce == Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Time to RTFM, there, Corey. Bruce That's RTM on this list, please. What, You don't think our manuals are Fine? ;-) manoj -- ...The Universe is thronged with fire and light, And we but

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
Yoav Cohen-Sivan: It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I mean is that after installation of RedHat you have a more or less pre-tailored system setup. You can start tweaking your heart out but the

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: Debian comes up in a much rawer form after install - for instance, no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $ for the user (RedHat gives you the now famous username /home/username$ prompt). # and $ are standard/expected prompts. if

Thank you very much (was: Extremely rare Apache configuration)

1997-02-27 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello guys, I just want to express publicly my gratitude to all of you (direct recipients of this message) for having pointed me in the right direction regarding the question I posted today to debian-user: Can one proxy server be configured to go through another proxy server for certain

Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please read

1997-02-27 Thread Brian C. White
From: John T. Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harvey Mudd should be producing somewhere between 3 and 4 M kps by tomarrow. Right now, most of us are running under [EMAIL PROTECTED], but we can change that if Bruce still disagrees with our possition. I asked the people at Zero to lump our

Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please read

1997-02-27 Thread Bruce Perens
Bruce, don't spend all your time worrying about how Debian is going to be viewed by the rest of the Linux community. Uh, sorry, this is my job within the project. We've been really careful to maintain good relations with the other Linux distributions and free software producers. Messing them up

RE: java for linux

1997-02-27 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Yes, its name is guavac. You can get it at both debian and MIT Thanks -- From: Seth Reinosa[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 12:25 PM To: debian linux questions Subject: java for linux Is ther a compiler for java for linux? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even if there are other factors), I'm not going to be upset if they don't choose Debian. I'm no talking

Life, The Universe Debian (was Re: Unstable vs. Stable)

1997-02-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On 24 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed writes: ...once I had a working system of X/lesstif/latex/gcc and a lot of utils I couldn't see the point in upgrading. That's fine if you never intend to add any new packages. If you do, eventually you will be forced to upgrade do to changes in

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Scott Stanley
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: Debian comes up in a much rawer form after install - for instance, no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $ for the user (RedHat gives you the now famous username /home/username$

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Scott Stanley
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even if there are other factors), I'm not going to be upset if

Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please

1997-02-27 Thread Carl Privitt
At 07:03 PM 25/02/97 PST, Bruce Perens wrote: It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real How did [EMAIL PROTECTED] become _the_ Linux

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Scott Stanley wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to make a package that included a good degree of the typical customizations? I have setup 3 debian machines right from the

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Scott Stanley
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Scott Stanley wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to make a package that included a good degree of the typical

Re: pine produces segmentation faults (fwd)

1997-02-27 Thread William Chow
On 26 Feb 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Bruce == Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Time to RTFM, there, Corey. Bruce That's RTM on this list, please. What, You don't think our manuals are Fine? ;-) manoj -- void

Re: IMPORTANT: RSA Data Security Challenge participants please read

1997-02-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallón
Bruce, I feel I have to reply after reading some follow ups, including yours. It was OK for us to participate as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the RSA Data Security Challenge as long as we didn't have any chance of beating the Linux group. It looks as if we do have a chance. It would be real Well

Re: Free Publicity via the RC5 Challenge

1997-02-27 Thread Ioannis Tambouras
Also, with linuxnet at approx 70MKeys/sec and debian at about 10, we don't really have any chance of overtaking them. We could have overtaken them, for two reasons: 1. MKeys/sec is a misleading number. I was running 30 process on one computer in order to upload them with one ppp

Re: 2.1* kernels

1997-02-27 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Herbert == Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herbert Bruce Perens wrote: I haven't had time to maintain AX.25 lately. I tried 2.1.x on my home system a few weeks ago, and IP forwarding appeared to be broken. Herbert It's not broken. You need to enable it by

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: So start by learning what you need to know to have a nicer setup. If you dont have the time to trace through all the documentation to find out exactly what needs to be done, then at least skim the docs to get an overview of how it works and ask

Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!

1997-02-27 Thread Joe Emenaker
Well, I've been working with Debian systems for over a year now and I've been able to get it to dial into my ISP about three times. Each time, I had to use route to make the default gateway to be the ip that I could get with ifconfig. EVERY person I've talked to who has tried getting dial-up ppp

Quake 1.01 vs 1.06

1997-02-27 Thread Rick Macdonald
Joey, I'm a bit confused about your debian quake packaging. When I first installed the debian quake (1.01), it wouldn't run with my DOS lib that I patched to the 1.06 level. I think we even exchanged email about it. Anyway, along comes a debian quake lib 1.06, but no new quake itself. And, the

my zipper is stuck

1997-02-27 Thread Seth Reinosa
how do I uncompress a progam that says guavac-0.2.5-linuxelf-bin.tar.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.eznet.net/~seth Thanx and may God Bless you Seth R -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey So when I installed debian, I was pleasantly suprised to Joey find all these packages prompting me for configuration Joey information in their postinst scripts, and I ended up with a Joey working system with all the necessary

Re. Why is PPP so screwed up

1997-02-27 Thread Matthew K. Lung
For what it's worth, I got PPP up and going in about 5 minutes. ae ppp.option_out, ae ppp.chatscript and ae resolv.conf. No problem, and this was my first time ever dealing with linux. Once I get comfortable with it, I'm going to try WABI so I can put debian on this laptop. Matthew K. Lung

Re: my zipper is stuck

1997-02-27 Thread Ioannis Tambouras
To view the containts do: $ tar -zvtf guavac-0.2.5-linuxelf-bin.tar.gz To untar it do: $ tar -zxpvf guavac-0.2.5-linuxelf-bin.tar.gz Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida Signed pgp-key on key server. On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Seth Reinosa wrote: how do I

Re: Quake 1.01 vs 1.06

1997-02-27 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner
RM == Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RM Joey, I'm a bit confused about your debian quake packaging. RM When I first installed the debian quake (1.01), it wouldn't run RM with my DOS lib that I patched to the 1.06 level. I think we RM even exchanged email about it. RM Anyway,

Re: pine produces segmentation faults (fwd)

1997-02-27 Thread Corey Allert
I cna dig the whole $user/.xinitrc but everythin was fine last week . . the machine was up and running for about a month also I only ran X as root as a test On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Corey Allert wrote: also Xfree86 doesn't run properly .. . it will as root but as any other user X starts as if

Re: Quake 1.01 vs 1.06

1997-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
Larry 'Daffy' Daffner: There ARE new squake/xquake packages. They've been sitting in Incoming on master since quake-lib_1.06-1 showed up. Anyone know why they haven't moved into the main tree? I don't know. I've gotten this reported by dozens of users. I've had a bug report filed on quake

xmcd and internet database servers.

1997-02-27 Thread Robert Nicholson
Anybody got xmcd working? Any sign of a package? I would appear that xmcd has the advantage over Workman in that it works with servers to get playlists etc. -- Where's my spy camera? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL