Re: Top posting

2005-06-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:14:50PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday June 10 2005 8:40 am, you wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: It's preserved for posterity and not everybody wants to read a whole thread to figure out what solved some random printing problem. But, in fact, most people

Re: Solved: kernel panich VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)

2005-06-12 Thread Marty
Craig Russell wrote: It was recommended that I *NOT* use initrd unless I absolutely had a reason (booting from LVM or raid, etc) but all of the debian images come in this manner and I have been unable to compile a kernel and get it to boot without initrd. Am I missing something? I could be

RE: Cygwin, ssh, and top

2005-06-12 Thread David Christensen
Robert Wolfe wrote: What are you using as an SSH client? I was using: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cygcheck -c | grep openssh openssh 3.9p1-3 OK Upgrade. Try again: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cygcheck -c openssh Cygwin Package Information Package

Re: Solved: kernel panich VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)

2005-06-12 Thread Craig Russell
Marty wrote: Craig Russell wrote: It was recommended that I *NOT* use initrd unless I absolutely had a reason (booting from LVM or raid, etc) but all of the debian images come in this manner and I have been unable to compile a kernel and get it to boot without initrd. Am I missing

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Guillaume TESSIER
Right, This could be interresting to debate about. It's still about debian version, packages version and repositories. Broadly, package are evoluting that way : The package is in really beta version in the unstable tree. Then most of the bugs are fixed and this package slides to the testing

Re: Solved: kernel panich VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)

2005-06-12 Thread Marty
Craig Russell wrote: In terms of mirroring the boot disk I was referring to an LVM or raidtools setup with a raid1 mirror. If it is done, I'd like to be able to boot off of either disk in the event of a failure. Unless I'm missing something, LILO or grub already allow that without the need

usb HD mounting problems

2005-06-12 Thread Peter Plessas
Hi List, still got problems mounting and accessing an external HD (MacPower Icecube FW800) through USB. Note that this is on a Powerpc, but it might not be a platform specific problem, hence the post. I am here on Debian Testing with an 2.6.11.5 kernel. I think i got all required modules

Re: Can't burn CDs at a reasonable speed (cdrecord, 2.6.11 kernel).

2005-06-12 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:37:21 +0100 Adam Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite there! I'll check the cable too. Funny, I seem to get the same eror, and my cables are good. My /dev/hdc is a Toshiba SD-1312, and reading DVDs CDs, writing CDs (it's a combo DVD-R/CDRW) has worked fine. [EMAIL

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Marty
Guillaume TESSIER wrote: It seems that the BIG SWITCH let my system a kind of orphelin I think you are massively overcomplicating the problem... You wrote ealier that your last upgrade was on the 2nd of june (FYI here in the US 02/06/2005 is usually interpreted as Feb 6 2005) and you

Hats off to Debian maintainers: Sarge

2005-06-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi! Just dist-upgraded to the new stable Sarge from a version of last November. I had to reboot because X would not start: could not GETVT? Then the fonts had changed: in the Mozilla menubar and in my QT applications using QLabel. Impressive job! H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 12 June 2005 08:47 am, j Mak wrote: --- Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: j Mak: I logged in with Knoppix and I searched the sarge partition for the file you mentioned, but I found no Xfree86.0.log file in the /var/log directory. Kent was right, you need to

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Guillaume TESSIER
Marty wrote: Guillaume TESSIER wrote: It seems that the BIG SWITCH let my system a kind of orphelin I think you are massively overcomplicating the problem... Marty, I know i'm overcomplicating the problem. But i think there is really something that bugs. This means you are

Re: Firefox no print issue

2005-06-12 Thread Almut Behrens
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 08:12:36PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: Almut Behrens wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:47:14PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: /HWResolution[600 600]setpagedevice %!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%Pages: (atend) %%BoundingB That /HWResolution[600 600]setpagedevice is not supposed to occur in

Re: Live Radar Image as KDE Screensaver

2005-06-12 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:33:09 -0500 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a way to grab a live weather radar image from a public source (like NOAA or weather.com) and use it as a screensaver in KDE? Thanks! I'm pretty sure those sites don't really have live radar, but

/etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello All, I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1] what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? 2] does it really matter ? Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Home network problem

2005-06-12 Thread Phil
The linux server running file and printer sharing for windows, Apple and linux clients does not get the internet in KDE. I get an IP address and subnet mask info, and RX TX packet flow when I issue a ifconfig command on eth0 (the only NIC) I can ping all local machines, the DSL router

Re: resolvconf w/ dhcpd - /etc/hosts not working

2005-06-12 Thread Thomas Stivers
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 02:30:28 AM +0200, LeVA wrote: Hi! I'm using a dhcp3 client with resolvconf configuration. The ip updating and name server configuration works fine, but I can not use the /etc/hosts file. For example if I set this up in /etc/hosts: Do you have the following in your

sarge: firefox: menu item turns blank when cursored over

2005-06-12 Thread john doe
After installing mozilla-firefox package, go into gnome desktop, launch firefox, the menu item turns blank (actually white) when you move the cursor over it. See screenshot here: http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/66C1UCTV882Q/picserver.png This problem doesn't happen to other

Re: Home network problem

2005-06-12 Thread Craig Russell
Phil wrote: The linux server running file and printer sharing for windows, Apple and linux clients does not get the internet in KDE. I get an IP address and subnet mask info, and RX TX packet flow when I issue a ifconfig command on eth0 (the only NIC) I can ping all local machines,

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread David Jardine
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:35:00PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote: [...] There is a problem. A package with the same version number won't contain the same binaries at different T time in the different trees. Apt doesn't know about binaries. It only looks at the

Re: Home network problem

2005-06-12 Thread Guillaume TESSIER
Phil wrote: The linux server running file and printer sharing for windows, Apple and linux clients does not get the internet in KDE. I get an IP address and subnet mask info, and RX TX packet flow when I issue a ifconfig command on eth0 (the only NIC) I can ping all local machines,

Re: sarge: firefox: menu item turns blank when cursored over

2005-06-12 Thread Sven Arvidsson
john doe wrote: After installing mozilla-firefox package, go into gnome desktop, launch firefox, the menu item turns blank (actually white) when you move the cursor over it. See screenshot here: http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/66C1UCTV882Q/picserver.png This problem

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Colin Ingram
Guillaume TESSIER wrote: Marty wrote: This means : the package-2.0 is my system (taken from the testing repositories at (BIG-SWITCH -4)) could be different than the package-2.0 in the stable repositories. And APT won't see it and won't upgrade this package. Therefore it seems it's not

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:17:53AM -0400, j Mak wrote: [snip] have any graphical interface. I logged in and run /etc/init.d/kdm start as you suggested. But I got the message: Starting K Display manager kdm . And the prompt reappears. So I am back to square one. I have no graphical desktop

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Marty
Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello All, I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1] what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? 2] does it really matter ? If you check out on-going

Re: Programming Backwards (was Re: Top posting (a different point of view))

2005-06-12 Thread David Jardine
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 11:26:47AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: /me envisions an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters sitting in a building in Redmond with an M$ logo on the front... :) Well, infinite is probably a little on the high side, but... -- David

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Colin Ingram
Guillaume TESSIER wrote: Right, This could be interresting to debate about. It's still about debian version, packages version and repositories. Broadly, package are evoluting that way : The package is in really beta version in the unstable tree. Then most of the bugs are fixed and this

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread Kent West
j Mak wrote: --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like you don't have X [completely] installed. Try aptitude install x-window-system. I tried the aptitude install x-window-system and i got the following message: No candidate version found for x-windows-system No packages

Re: debian sources to debian binaries.

2005-06-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:21:26PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: nuno romano wrote: When trying to build binary .deb packages from debian sources I get the following warning:(the same with gtkhtml3) dpkg-deb: parse error in file `fltk-1.1.6/ /DEBIAN/control´ near line 8

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Guillaume TESSIER wrote: Apt doesn't know about binaries. It only looks at the version number. Correct. This means : the package-2.0 is my system (taken from the testing repositories at (BIG-SWITCH -4)) could be different than the package-2.0 in the stable repositories. No that is

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: Three questions (gotta get Monty Python outta this) 1) User copies /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf to /etc/apt/apt.conf and edits to suit? No. That is an example configuration file to illustrate features configuration file and a very few possible features, that

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Marty wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: APT does not know or care about any Debian version that you seem to be trying to make up. It does not exist. Don't try to create one. I guess these guys didn't hear the news: algernon:/home/marty# dlocate debian_version base-files: /etc/debian_version

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Jochen Schulz
Jerome BENOIT: I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1] what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? This is not yet decided, I think. The file is part of the package

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Joe Potter
Bob Proulx wrote: Marty wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: snip You are very close to trolling. Please don't do that. Bob Hi Bob, He may be close to trolling, but I am glad they all got those posts out of you. What great explanations of the situation. I have tried to impart this information in

Re: Exim4: disablign delay in flushing mail queues

2005-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday June 12 2005 6:15 am, Micha Feigin wrote: When I use fetchmail to import my mail through exim4 it only flushes the first few messages imidiatly and the rest are delayed quite a bit unless I do /etc/init.d/exim4 restart. Any way to disable this behaviour with exim? Don't, there is

Re: [OT] Re: Top posting (a different point of view)

2005-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday June 12 2005 10:10 am, Hendrik Boom wrote: Unlike vi v. emacs or KDE v. Gnome, there's actually an RFC about this one. It's a dead issue. If you don't conform, people will be less liekly to reply to you. Really? an RFC? Which one, and where might I find it?

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Marty
Joe Potter wrote: He may be close to trolling, but I am glad they all got those posts out of you. I'm not trolling nor did I make up idea of the debian version. I just asked a few questions about it, seeking clarification. Thanks to all who responded, and thanks for your patience too.

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread John Hasler
Guillaume TESSIER writes: A package with the same version number won't contain the same binaries at different T time in the different trees. What ever gave you that idea? of _course_ it will. In fact, it is exactly the same _file_. Look up package pools. This means : the package-2.0 is my

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread j Mak
--- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:17:53AM -0400, j Mak wrote: [snip] have any graphical interface. I logged in and run /etc/init.d/kdm start as you suggested. But I got the message: Starting K Display manager kdm . And the prompt reappears. So

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread j Mak
--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: j Mak wrote: --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like you don't have X [completely] installed. Try aptitude install x-window-system. I tried the aptitude install x-window-system and i got the following message: No

Re: sarge: gdm login screen: font too small

2005-06-12 Thread Jochen Schulz
Jochen Schulz: # vim /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 93 -nolisten tcp What I forgot was: add a this line with your values to the Monitor section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Displaysize 286 214 # size in millimeters J. -- I throw away plastics and

Safety issues of cronning apt-get -y upgrade

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss
On a stable Debian machine, would cronning apt-get -y upgrade (with the apt-get -y update of course) on a daily or weekly basis have any fault points? I'm asking since I'd like to ensure that upgrading of a server's packages is safe and secure without the need to SSH into the machine just

Re: Sound + Video Issues

2005-06-12 Thread Sven Arvidsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After relocating my Linux drive to my new computer, I've been able to resolve most problems; however a few remain: Audio -- ??? Video -- i810 works (Direct Rendering: NO), however i915 doesn't My /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 loads both glx and dri. Additionally the DRI

Gnome menus

2005-06-12 Thread Arthur Barlow
After updating the latest set of Gnome libraries for Debian unstable, I noticed that the Applications menu and submenus have changed. However, Iam not able to right click and delete an item. Enough when I log in as root I don't have this functionality. Any suggestions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

software raid - no grub?

2005-06-12 Thread Graham Seaman
I just bought a new machine and installed the new debian on it. It has 2 drives and I wanted to run software raid on them so I was really impressed when it came up as an install option. The problem is, now I can't always boot: as far as I can work out (after about 10 attempts, so it does seem to

a question about apt_preferences,

2005-06-12 Thread Paul E Condon
I am attempting to set up apt_preferences to pin priorities on the basis of the name of a release rather than on the basis of (stable|testing|unstable). I tried a line : Pin: release a=etch but this is ignored by aptitude. I can set the priority of testing with a line : Pin: release a=testing

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread Jochen Schulz
j Mak: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree89 is not installed Then do 'aptitude install xserver-xfree86' (and yes, 86 not 89). I am very sure it's on the first CD. J. -- Tony Blair is a hypnotised self-seeking scarecrow just like all the rest. [Agree] [Disagree]

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:26:14PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Jerome BENOIT: I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1] what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ?

Re: Gnome menus

2005-06-12 Thread Sven Arvidsson
Arthur Barlow wrote: After updating the latest set of Gnome libraries for Debian unstable, I noticed that the Applications menu and submenus have changed. However, Iam not able to right click and delete an item. Enough when I log in as root I don't have this functionality. Any suggestions?

Re: software raid - no grub?

2005-06-12 Thread Clive Menzies
On (12/06/05 23:34), Graham Seaman wrote: I just bought a new machine and installed the new debian on it. It has 2 drives and I wanted to run software raid on them so I was really impressed when it came up as an install option. The problem is, now I can't always boot: as far as I can work out

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread Kent West
j Mak wrote: --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: j Mak wrote: --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try aptitude install x-window-system. The problem is that I cannot make my Internet connection work with sarge. The only way I can download that file either with

Re: Top posting

2005-06-12 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
On 10/6/2005, at 1:55, David Jardine wrote: be getting out of hand :) us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to Isn't some authoritative voice on the list going to give I gave up lecturing people about top quoting. Non Technical People, and those are the most in most

Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it

2005-06-12 Thread Guillaume TESSIER
Colin Ingram wrote: packages with the same version number have the same binaries and are exactly the same no matter if they are in unstable, testing, or stale Bob and Colin, Thanks for giving me all these informations and lead my behaviour in the right way. Yes, i missed something : i

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread Ishwar Rattan
As others have pointed out: you do not have X-wondows installed. Install the software FIRST or re-install from scratch from install media. One way to see if the needed package is installed is via dpkg program: # dpkg -l package-name -ishwar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Homebuilt vs. debian packages, and apt-get upgrade

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Jaime wrote: Everything apart from the dependant version of libc6 is identical. So why does apt-get want to upgrade one, but not the other? With your homebuilt version installed, run 'apt-cache policy less' to see what priorities it gives the two. You will likely

Re: software raid - no grub?

2005-06-12 Thread Graham Seaman
Clive Menzies wrote: You might find the following useful: http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO.html http://juerd.nl/site.plp/debianraid http://rootraiddoc.alioth.debian.org/ http://deb.riseup.net/storage/software-raid/

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Wayne Topa
Jerome BENOIT([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hello All, I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1] what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? 2] does it

Re: BIND 8 BUG

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Florian Ernst wrote: PK wrote: I've removed BIND 8 from Sarge with: # apt-get --purge remove bind # apt-get clean [...] but I still have BIND 8 startup scripts links in: Hmm, I cannot reproduce this behavior... Me neither. But I will guess that package is removed previously

Re: Gwebdec

2005-06-12 Thread David R. Litwin
(Sorry, I didn't send this to the List.) Alright. I installed the gtk2.0-dev package. I ran make: # make make -C src/webdec make[1]: Entering directory `/home/david/Pictures/Webshots/gwebdec-0.24.1/src/webdec' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory

Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread herminio
Have just finished installing sarge (am a first-time debian user, very impressed), and now am chosing a window manager. I have fond memories of using a little-known WM called VTWM on SunOS, but that was almost 10 years ago now. I'm guessing the are other, at least equally noteworthy WM's around.

Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Florian Ernst wrote: MicheleM wrote: all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot loader LILO failed with the LI code error. [...] But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere. lilo should have detected it needed to be re-run and should have prompted

Re: scp from remote to remote machine

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert Vangel wrote: belahcene wrote: I want to send a file from one remote machine to another one like this scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home2/dsl-1.2.iso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian Password: Host key verification failed. lost connection You need to make sure 172.19.5.75 already has an

Re: Gwebdec

2005-06-12 Thread Kent West
David R. Litwin wrote: Then, I ran make install: make install chmod 755 src/webdec/webdec src/webman/webman src/gwebdec/gwebdec cp src/webdec/webdec src/webman/webman src/gwebdec/gwebdec /usr/bin It says in the README to fire up the gui. Not really knowing how to do this (but noting it is

Re: Help: keybbbbbboard problem with 2.6.8 kernel

2005-06-12 Thread Robert Storey
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:30:41PM +0800, Marc wrote: Ever since upgrading to kernel 2.6.8 on Debian (sarge) I've had a problem with keys auto-repeating in X Windows. The problem only shows up in X windows. While typing in a terminal window (for example) the key auto-repeat kicks in

Re: Pre-Port Usability Question

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Dave Babb wrote: The responses indicate that Debian is a distro to take into any server room, deploy it, and not loose sleep about something blowing up when you leave. Definitely one of the strongest points. But you are missing another strong point of Debian... I've already rolled out the

Re: Newbie cannot start graphical desktop

2005-06-12 Thread terry
j Mak wrote: I ran tasksel. The first item on the list was Desktop environment. It was already selected then I hit enter and nothing happened. I was back to the prompt. Did I do something wrong? Are you sure tasksel selected the desktop environment, or did it only highlight it? You

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread Ishwar Rattan
Try: 1. w9wm (it is cool) 2. fluxbox 3. ion I am sure there are others.. -ishwar On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A personal recommendation of your favourite window manager would be much appreciated. Thanks for your attention, Herminio Gonzalez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: locale

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Al Bayrouni wrote: what this means? locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory That means there is no locale data

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread Anders Breindahl
On Monday 13 June 2005 00:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have just finished installing sarge (am a first-time debian user, very impressed), and now am chosing a window manager. I have fond memories of using a little-known WM called VTWM on SunOS, but that was almost 10 years ago now. I'm

Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss
This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what happened to a server I admin remotely. When I upgraded to the new stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done. Hopefully someone

Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss
This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what happened to a server I admin remotely. When I upgraded to the new stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done. Hopefully someone

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul E Condon wrote: Jochen Schulz wrote: Jerome BENOIT: I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1] what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? This is not yet

Re: software raid - no grub?

2005-06-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 12:56:08AM +0100, Graham Seaman wrote: In the end I went with some advice from the fedora forums; step 4 of http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-26912.html (explicitly installing grub on both drives) was what fixed it. In the end, that is a good

Re: Gnome menus

2005-06-12 Thread Ms Linuz
Sven Arvidsson wrote: Arthur Barlow wrote: After updating the latest set of Gnome libraries for Debian unstable, I noticed that the Applications menu and submenus have changed. However, Iam not able to right click and delete an item. Enough when I log in as root I don't have this

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:39:48AM +0200, Anders Breindahl wrote: Well -- I like wmaker, so that'd be my recommendation. Quite lightweight, a part of the GNU project, and awesome if you never maximize windows -- like me. :) Screenshots at http://www.windowmaker.org/gallery.html. Ditto

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread David Jardine
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:08:33PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: apt-cache policy base-files base-files: Installed: 3.1.2 Candidate: 3.1.2 Version Table: 3.1.4 0 300 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages *** 3.1.2 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org

Re: cdrecord slow

2005-06-12 Thread Derek Wueppelmann
On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 21:22 +1000, James Buchanan wrote: Hi, For some reason, cdrecord is very slow. It never burns anything faster than 4x, even though I instruct it on the command line to burn at 32x. Also, DVDs will only burn at 1x. I've read that automounting seems to slow it down,

Re: woody-sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-12 Thread Tom Allison
Rogério Brito wrote: On Jun 11 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote: Will try again. But ... Is it possible to resume the broken upgrade? Yes, it is. But besides the hint given by the previous poster, it would be nice if you could purge some unneeded packages, install both debophan and debfoster and

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 03:38:04PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so keen on KDE/GNOME because as I understand they are somewhat CPU-intensive and take longer to load than the traditional WMs. A personal recommendation of your favourite window manager would be much appreciated. openbox

Re: woody-sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-12 Thread Tom Allison
Rogério Brito wrote: On Jun 11 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote: Will try again. But ... Is it possible to resume the broken upgrade? Yes, it is. But besides the hint given by the previous poster, it would be nice if you could purge some unneeded packages, install both debophan and debfoster and

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Jeronimo Pellegrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 03:38:04PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so keen on KDE/GNOME because as I understand they are somewhat CPU-intensive and take longer to load than the traditional WMs. A personal recommendation of your

Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss
This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what happened to a server I admin remotely. When I upgraded to the new stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done. Hopefully someone

Re: Gwebdec (Solved)

2005-06-12 Thread David R. Litwin
Thank you all kindly, the Problem has been solved. Much appreciated.

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 06:45:25PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: Jochen Schulz wrote: Jerome BENOIT: I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1] what

USB Key Boot Hang

2005-06-12 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Hi, I've got kernel 2.6.8 running well, compiled using the debian kernel tools. I have all my IDE compiled into the kernel, no modules. For my SATA disk I have the SCSI libsata as kernel modules. For my USB I have EHCI,OHCI and UHCI as kernel modules. This seems to work very well. However if

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:12:46PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: It purports to be information that is available to script writers when, if fact, it is not information. It does not, in and of itself, cause a problem. It just misleads script writers into believing that there is a really simple

Re: Gwebdec (Solved)

2005-06-12 Thread David Jardine
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:02:08PM -0400, David R. Litwin wrote: Thank you all kindly, the Problem has been solved. Much appreciated. David, It's a good and courteous idea to finish a thread like this with a solved message, but for future reference, think of the people who may one day be

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread John L Fjellstad
Jerome BENOIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1] what must /etc/debian_version contain for an Etch box ? I don't think the version number has been decided yet. Probably won't until Etch gets closer to release 2] does it really matter ? Not really. -- John L. Fjellstad web:

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread Rogério Brito
On Jun 12 2005, Ishwar Rattan wrote: 2. fluxbox I also recommend fluxbox, especially when used with the Minimal style. It is quite functional and lightweight. I measured its memory consumption and that of openbox (which was claimed to be faster and lighter) and I could not find any difference

Re: Help: keybbbbbboard problem with 2.6.8 kernel

2005-06-12 Thread Marc Marais
-- Original Message --- From: Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:15:36 +1200 Subject: Re: Help: keybboard problem with 2.6.8 kernel On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:30:41PM +0800, Marc wrote: Ever since upgrading to

Re: Help: keybbbbbboard problem with 2.6.8 kernel

2005-06-12 Thread Marc Marais
-- Original Message --- From: Robert Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:04:27 +0800 Subject: Re: Help: keybboard problem with 2.6.8 kernel On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:30:41PM +0800, Marc wrote: Ever since upgrading to kernel

Re: a question about apt_preferences,

2005-06-12 Thread David Jardine
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 03:47:16PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I am attempting to set up apt_preferences to pin priorities on the basis of the name of a release rather than on the basis of (stable|testing|unstable). I tried a line : Pin: release a=etch but this is ignored by aptitude. I

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:26:19PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:12:46PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: It purports to be information that is available to script writers when, if fact, it is not information. It does not, in and of itself, cause a problem. It

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On 2005-06-13, Anders Breindahl wrote: On Monday 13 June 2005 00:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have just finished installing sarge (am a first-time debian user, very impressed), and now am chosing a window manager. I have fond memories of using a little-known WM called VTWM on SunOS, but that

Re: Safety issues of cronning apt-get -y upgrade

2005-06-12 Thread michael
Quoting Clinton V. Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On a stable Debian machine, would cronning apt-get -y upgrade (with the apt-get -y update of course) on a daily or weekly basis have any fault points? I'm asking since I'd like to ensure that upgrading of a server's packages is safe and secure

Re: Request for window manager recommendations

2005-06-12 Thread michael
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have just finished installing sarge (am a first-time debian user, very impressed), and now am chosing a window manager. I have fond memories of using a little-known WM called VTWM on SunOS, but that was almost 10 years ago now. I'm guessing the are other, at least

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:08:33PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Jerome BENOIT([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hello All, I have just migrate to Etch, and I have a naive question. My current /etc/debian_version file still contains 3.1, which is valid release for Sarge: 1]

Re: Safety issues of cronning apt-get -y upgrade

2005-06-12 Thread Robert Vangel
Clinton V. Weiss wrote: On a stable Debian machine, would cronning apt-get -y upgrade (with the apt-get -y update of course) on a daily or weekly basis have any fault points? I'm asking since I'd like to ensure that upgrading of a server's packages is safe and secure without the need to SSH

Re: Top posting

2005-06-12 Thread David P James
On Thu 9 June 2005 22:12, Paul Johnson wrote: You've been around too many Outlook Express and Outlook users, then. Those are the only two clients that encourage top posting by default and make you strain to post properly, instead of the other way around. Sadly, Novell GroupWise encourages

Re: /etc/debian_version for Etch

2005-06-12 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:53:15PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I just did a dist-upgrade of a spare box from Sarge to Etch. The contents of /etc/debian-version was 3.1 before the dist-upgrade and remain the same afterwards. Etch, of course, has no version number. So there is no way to test

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