Re: manually purge .deb file

2006-05-01 Thread erchamion . beren
On Monday 01 May 2006 12:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > dpkg --purge firefox-1.5.en-us.linux hello, my previous command was aptitude install libgtk2.0-0 , sorry about that. here is dpkg --purge result # dpkg --purge firefox-1.5.en-us.linux dpkg: error processing firefox-1.5.en-us.linux (--purge)

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Slap on the wrist, he's still teaching. And it is prevalent. It was oing on when I was in high school 10 years ago. Difference here was that a student had the cajones to record him and expose him. Nitpick: The word "cajones" means drawers.

escape a string literal for use with regex?

2006-05-01 Thread David Purton
How can I escape a string literal easily for use as a regex with grep? e.g., Say I wanted to implement a procmail killfile, that might, say contain a mail subject line (dropped in with a mutt macro) like this: Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract] (Hypothetical situation, of course...) Then

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Steve Lamb wrote: Rich Johnson wrote: Oh, so the objection is to _dissident_ poltical teaching. Heaven forbid that high school students should be challenged to think and decide for themselves. Uh, no, try again. The problem in this case there was political speech at all during a GEOGRA

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Rich Johnson wrote: On Apr 30, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: Rich Johnson wrote: ROFLMAO! You're calling for the elimination of History, Citizenship, Government, and even the ''Pledge of Allegiance''. No, there's a difference between teaching those subjects and going off on

Re: Social Contract

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Mike McCarty wrote: > Mumia W wrote: > >> >> It's not Social Security that's failing. It's your Republican President >> and Congress that have failed. The entire problem with Social Security's >> funding is that the President cut taxes five times. > This is another one of those myths perpetrated

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] BTW, just curious, have you compared private schooling to public schooling when it comes to cost per pupil? The last time I checked (Sacramento, late 90s) private schooling was cheaper per pupil. Several years ago (like 1988 or so) the US gov't published per capi

Re: Debian DVD autostart

2006-05-01 Thread Christopher Nelson
On 2006-05-02, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Daniel L. McGrew wrote: >> Is there a way to view this mail-list via a news reader??? > > You can view the list via a news reader, but you can only post via > email. I believe the name of the newsgroup is linux.debian.user, but > you will have to

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Umm. You do realize that not all private schools are Christian, correct? There are Jewish, Muslim, and yes even secular private schools. If there are not enough secular private schools now, I'm sure that a market would open up for them if public education was abolishe

Re: Social Contract

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Mumia W wrote: Social Security is a government program. There's nothing wrong about using taxes to support a government program. There is something wrong with taking money away from one person and giving it to another when the government has no authority (see the Constitution) to do so. And

Re: DPI setting

2006-05-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 1 May 2006 21:36:32 +0100 ArameFarpado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > >> That was it! - except it was in /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf not > >> /etc/gdm/gdm.con, which is why I missed it.. > >> > >> Beats me why a display manager would think that it had a better > >>

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >>- A bureaucracy so big and unweidly it makes it close to impossible for >>educators to actually educate > > > Or worse, ordered not to educate (*cough*Kansas*cough*) > > >>- People sending their kids there is a tacit acceptance of the state

Re: Social Contract

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Steve Lamb wrote: Mumia W wrote: Perhaps, Steve, you should have read this section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme#Are_national_retirement_programs_Ponzi_schemes.3F That section explains why national retirement schemes are *not* ponzi schemes. What makes you think I didn't

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >> >>>US $9,900,000,000 (billion) profits /by one oil company/ in one >>>quarter when retail prices were skyrocketing. Does that seem like the >>>oil cartel has the American interests at heart? >> >>D

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Matthias Julius wrote: >> >>>Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>> >>> For $200, you can get the Robinson Curriculum, a complete K-12 home study kit, except math books. Math books are $50 each, new

Re: Social Contract

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Mumia W wrote: Wulfy wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Wulfy wrote: Erm. What does "ponzi" mean? I can't find it in any of my dictionaries, so I assume it's American Slang... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme Thanks, Steve. Indeed, thanks Steve. Perhaps, Steve, you should have re

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > > It just shows that not everyone could pay his children's tuition with > the money he is contributing to the public school system. Of course, > since everyones contribution is directly or indirectly based on income > this seems unfair to the wealthier. > The problem is

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Doesn't that make you feel cheap, though? I mean, I can understand if >>you are unemployed or if you have fallen on hard times financially. >>However, I don't particularly like the fact that I and my neighbors >>(ver

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 30 April 2006 10:57, Curt Howland wrote: > >>The public schools in the United States spend MORE THAN $10,000 (TEN >>THOUSAND DOLLARS) per student EACH YEAR, EVERY YEAR, and it's only >>going up. > > > OK, now for some numbers based in reality. My alma mater is Me

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Paul Johnson wrote: > > You directly benefit (even without kids) by being surrounded by (relatively) > educated people. Just like freeways: While bicycles may be allowed on most > of them, odds are bicyclists are paying for miles of urban freeway that is > closed to bicycles. Is it fair that

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > > How do you recognize well-intentioned and law-abiding citizens? What > makes this difficult is that people change. They buy a gun as a > well-intentioned and law-abiding citizen in case they need to defend > themselfes. Then a while later when they are upset or drunk

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > - A bureaucracy so big and unweidly it makes it close to impossible for > educators to actually educate Or worse, ordered not to educate (*cough*Kansas*cough*) > - People sending their kids there is a tacit acceptance of the state > indoctrinating their children

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Matthias Julius wrote: > The situation is a little be different here. They're not suddenly > selling 2 trillion widgets instead of one. They are selling each one > of them for $1.50 instead of $1.10. And why do they need special tax > breaks when they seem to do well? Nope, the situation is

Re: Shared memory - using ps(1)

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:50:20AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >>That is true whether or not the binary is statically linked. > > > Sure, but the grand parent post specifically asked about statically > linked binaries. > > >>The important thing is that libra

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Steve Lamb wrote: > > No, they're not the same, Paul. First off I can see and point out > potholes > in the roads and get them fixed. I do not consider what the public schools in > this nation as educating. While I may benefit from an educated public I do > not see such an educated public.

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Rich Johnson wrote: > I didn't write that. Yes, my apologies for the seemingly misattribution. I should have removed Rich's attribution line. However since they were both on the same quote level I hope people would catch that his attribution line would match a 2nd level of quotation which

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Rich Johnson wrote: > Er...they also VOTE! > I, for one, definitely prefer an educated electorate to an ignorant > one. It's kinda' important, even though all indications are that > emotional arguments usually win. Even worse, most people couldn't name their congresscritter or representati

Re: Shared memory - using ps(1)

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:50:20AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > That is true whether or not the binary is statically linked. Sure, but the grand parent post specifically asked about statically linked binaries. > The important thing is that library code is not shared. You stated ``If they

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > You directly benefit (even without kids) by being surrounded by (relatively) > educated people. Just like freeways: While bicycles may be allowed on most > of them, odds are bicyclists are paying for miles of urban freeway that is > closed to bicycles. Is it fair that pe

Re: Offensive e-mail received

2006-05-01 Thread Mike McCarty
Chris Metzler wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:41 -0500 Mike McCarty wrote: Leonid Grinberg wrote: (c) Just ignore it. Err, I'd rather report it to the ISP of the originator, if it's really truly patently and deliberately offensive. I did that a day or so ago with one which had deliberatel

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Matthias Julius wrote: > How do you recognize well-intentioned and law-abiding citizens? What > makes this difficult is that people change. They buy a gun as a > well-intentioned and law-abiding citizen in case they need to defend > themselfes. Then a while later when they are upset or drunk the

Re: How do I delete a thread in the Evolution email client?

2006-05-01 Thread Marcel Stoop
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 23:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 20:08 -0700, charles norwood wrote: > > Hi List. > > How do I delete a thread using Evolution? I need to trash some of these > > OT discussions. > > IIRC, there is no Delete Thread is Evo 2.0.4 (which is a pretty > anci

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 05:58:39PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > What's the worst a pothead generally does? He might start a movement to create an operating system consisting entirely of Free Software, which might some day devestate the market for buggy, commercial operating systems! We can't ha

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 04:14:08PM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: > O.K. But, your assertion was that Clinton used the military _more_ > than the previous _five_ presidents put together. Oh man, you caught him! Having only the _same_ number of deployments as the previous _four_ presidents *comple

Re: Shared memory - using ps(1)

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:11:53AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >>If they are statically, linked, then they don't share their library >>code. Ergo, you are wasting memory. > > > Multiple processes of the same statically linked executable will share > their tex

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 17:43, Curt Howland wrote: > gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: eof > On Monday 01 May 2006 16:30, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard > > to say: > > > All airports in the US are government owned. > > > > I suppose that's true if you're willing to say that

Re: Shared memory - using ps(1)

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:11:53AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > If they are statically, linked, then they don't share their library > code. Ergo, you are wasting memory. Multiple processes of the same statically linked executable will share their text pages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Have DVD burner, will backup!

2006-05-01 Thread Mark Grieveson
I use DAR and a script called DARomizer which is designed to backup a hard drive to multi DVD-RW disks. DAR: http://dar.linux.free.fr/ DARomizer: http://www.catherders.com/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=1 Thanks, that sounds great. I notice too that dar is packaged in the repositories

Re: How do I delete a thread in the Evolution email client?

2006-05-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 20:08 -0700, charles norwood wrote: > Hi List. > How do I delete a thread using Evolution? I need to trash some of these > OT discussions. IIRC, there is no Delete Thread is Evo 2.0.4 (which is a pretty ancient version). You could make a "Subject or Sender contains" search

Re: Debian DVD autostart

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: > I have both Debian DVDs... However, I have a DELL Optiplex GX110 and > it won't boot from a DVD... I can use a Win '98 boot floppy and get to a > command prompt... once I do this, with CD-ROM support, I can see what's on > the DVD... but, I can't get it to begin the

Debian DVD autostart

2006-05-01 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
I have both Debian DVDs... However, I have a DELL Optiplex GX110 and it won't boot from a DVD... I can use a Win '98 boot floppy and get to a command prompt... once I do this, with CD-ROM support, I can see what's on the DVD... but, I can't get it to begin the installation... What

Re: How do I delete a thread in the Evolution email client?

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
charles norwood wrote: > Hi List. > How do I delete a thread using Evolution? I need to trash some of these > OT discussions. > TIA, > Chuck Out of curiousity, are you running your own mail server? You can do server side filtering with mailfilter or procmail. Beyond that, I am not sure about ho

How do I delete a thread in the Evolution email client?

2006-05-01 Thread charles norwood
Hi List. How do I delete a thread using Evolution? I need to trash some of these OT discussions. TIA, Chuck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:51:56PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > I think a community should provide its members with the basic > necessities to have a human-like live and to have chance to improve > it. This requires education, housing, social and physical security. I can understand that view

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
"Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 01 May 2006 15:24:21 -0700 > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Matthias Julius wrote: >> > The same is true for drugs and other controlled substances. Would >> > you vote making them freely available? >> >> I would, and have. O

Re: rerunning autodetect

2006-05-01 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:29:21PM -0500, Mark Tilford wrote: > On 4/30/06, James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On (30/04/06 18:35), Mark Tilford wrote: > >> On 4/29/06, Mark Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >For various reasons, I had to run the installation on one computer, > >> >th

Re: rerunning autodetect

2006-05-01 Thread Mark Tilford
On 4/30/06, James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On (30/04/06 18:35), Mark Tilford wrote: > On 4/29/06, Mark Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >For various reasons, I had to run the installation on one computer, > >then transfer the hard drive to a different computer. How do I rerun > >the

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >> US $9,900,000,000 (billion) profits /by one oil company/ in one >> quarter when retail prices were skyrocketing. Does that seem like the >> oil cartel has the American interests at heart? > > Didn't I address just this in a mes

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthias Julius wrote: >> Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >>>For $200, you can get the Robinson Curriculum, a complete K-12 home >>>study kit, except math books. Math books are $50 each, new, approx >>>one per year depending on

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 1, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 14:29, Steve Lamb wrote: Matthias Julius wrote: So there are people without children who pay for public education. This means the average parent who has kids in a public school is paying less than what he would have to if h

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthias Julius wrote: >> So there are people without children who pay for public education. >> This means the average parent who has kids in a public school is >> paying less than what he would have to if he had to pay it all by >> himself. > > Yes, be

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 1, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Rich Johnson wrote: on when I was in high school 10 years ago. Difference here was that a student had the cajones to record him and expose him. Man, wish it were 10 years ago. More like 16. *gasp* I didn't write that.

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Doesn't that make you feel cheap, though? I mean, I can understand if > you are unemployed or if you have fallen on hard times financially. > However, I don't particularly like the fact that I and my neighbors > (very few of whom have school age

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 14:09, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > Steve Lamb wrote: > >> Well, how many of those have aircraft flying out of them that have > >> the > >> capacity to do damage to a building on the scale of 9/11. > >> > >> > >> Want to know what we should be worri

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 30 April 2006 10:57, Curt Howland wrote: > The public schools in the United States spend MORE THAN $10,000 (TEN > THOUSAND DOLLARS) per student EACH YEAR, EVERY YEAR, and it's only > going up. OK, now for some numbers based in reality. My alma mater is Merlo Station Natural Resources S

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 15:18, Matthias Julius wrote: > Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Non-sequiter. Mere "gun use" is in no way anti-social. I can use a > > fire-extinguisher to crush someone's skull in, the largest mass > > murder in American history was perpetrated with airplanes. Ne

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 14:29, Steve Lamb wrote: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > So there are people without children who pay for public education. > > This means the average parent who has kids in a public school is > > paying less than what he would have to if he had to pay it all by > > himself. > >

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 14:03, Kent West wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > > Well, how many of those have aircraft flying out of them that have > > the capacity to do damage to a building on the scale of 9/11. > > > > > > Want to know what we should be worried about? The unregulated and > > lax s

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 01 May 2006 16:30, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > All airports in the US are government owned. > > I suppose that's true if you're willing to say that the vast > majority of US airports don't exist.  Many television s

Re: xorg upgrade error

2006-05-01 Thread Tim
Andrew Nelson wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=365282 > > I was able to fix this problem by getting the deb source, applying the > patch and building the deb and finally installing the newly build deb. > > //andy > I've downloaded the source and applied the patch, but

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 01 May 2006 15:24:21 -0700 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > The same is true for drugs and other controlled substances. Would > > you vote making them freely available? > > I would, and have. Or rather, at the very least, decriminalized > the ones t

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 01 May 2006 16:17, Rich Johnson was heard to say: > You sir, are satire impaired! Please forgive me. I tend to take such discussions seriously, especially when citations are offered. Indeed, citing the CIA does seem extremely silly to me,

Re: vim-gtk: Depends: vim (= 1:6.3-071+1sarge1) but 1:6.3-072+1 is to be installed

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Bill Moseley wrote: > This is suppose to be a Stable machine. Did the ISP update the > vim package? > > Trying to install vim-gtk and I get: > > vim-gtk: Depends: vim (= 1:6.3-071+1sarge1) but 1:6.3-072+1 is to be installed > > > $ apt-cache policy vim > vim: > Installed: 1:6.3-072+1 > Can

Re: xorg upgrade error

2006-05-01 Thread Tim
steef wrote: > i meant the patch andy, in this thread is referring to. > > good luck, > > steef > Thanks, I'll give the patch a try. -- Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

vim-gtk: Depends: vim (= 1:6.3-071+1sarge1) but 1:6.3-072+1 is to be installed

2006-05-01 Thread Bill Moseley
This is suppose to be a Stable machine. Did the ISP update the vim package? Trying to install vim-gtk and I get: vim-gtk: Depends: vim (= 1:6.3-071+1sarge1) but 1:6.3-072+1 is to be installed $ apt-cache policy vim vim: Installed: 1:6.3-072+1 Candidate: 1:6.3-072+1 Version Table: *** 1:

Re: xorg upgrade error

2006-05-01 Thread Tim
Andrew Nelson wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=365282 > > I was able to fix this problem by getting the deb source, applying the > patch and building the deb and finally installing the newly build deb. > > //andy > Thanks, I'll give that a try. -- Tim <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop

2006-05-01 Thread Piers Kittel
To those who helped me, Thanks very much for all your advice, but I've tried all options to disable everything but they're kernel parameters which aren't taken in consideration that early I think? It stops exactly at the point right after uncompressing the kernel - it looks like a bit like tr

Re: problems in gnome/gdm after weekend etch upgrade

2006-05-01 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 04:43:37PM +0300, Andrius A__trauskas wrote: > It was a stupid but granted way to fix the problem. There should be a > better way to clean Gnome keyboard configuration - if anyone knows > please tell me. Would be of great help until Gnome (or Xorg) get fixed. I think, t

Re: problems in gnome/gdm after weekend etch upgrade

2006-05-01 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:09:34PM +0200, Kai Olsen wrote: > > > >I run etch on my laptop system, and I usually do a dist-upgrade each > >weekend to keep up to date. > > > > Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't a dist-upgrade some kind of > overkill if you've already got etch installed? A normal

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Matthias Julius wrote: > The same is true for drugs and other controlled substances. Would you > vote making them freely available? I would, and have. Or rather, at the very least, decriminalized the ones that are criminalized now. Because "drugs" encompasses more than just the illegal ones

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Non-sequiter. Mere "gun use" is in no way anti-social. I can use a > fire-extinguisher to crush someone's skull in, the largest mass > murder in American history was perpetrated with airplanes. Neither of > these acts reflects upon fire-extinguishers o

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:34:04PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Matthias Julius wrote: > > Why is that so? Just because it is a public school? Why is a public > > school by definition so different from a private school? Is there no > > way of making a public school more (cost-)efficient? > >

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Matthias Julius wrote: > Why is that so? Just because it is a public school? Why is a public > school by definition so different from a private school? Is there no > way of making a public school more (cost-)efficient? Yes. We're discussing it right now. :P Seriously though which is

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>For $200, you can get the Robinson Curriculum, a complete K-12 home >>study kit, except math books. Math books are $50 each, new, approx >>one per year depending on student speed and aptitude of course. >> >>So even at the

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Matthias Julius wrote: > So there are people without children who pay for public education. > This means the average parent who has kids in a public school is > paying less than what he would have to if he had to pay it all by > himself. Yes, because the childless person just doesn't need that

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For $200, you can get the Robinson Curriculum, a complete K-12 home > study kit, except math books. Math books are $50 each, new, approx > one per year depending on student speed and aptitude of course. > > So even at the slowest, full 13 years worth of

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread hendrik
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 04:03:06PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > >Well, how many of those have aircraft flying out of them that have the > >capacity to do damage to a building on the scale of 9/11. > > > > > >Want to know what we should be worried about? The unregulated and

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 13:58, Steve Lamb wrote: > The unregulated and lax > security around rental trucks. This is a non-issue. As long as U-Haul is the company to rent a truck from, there will never be a rental truck capable of going farther than 15 miles anyway. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM

Re: System-V style init scripts

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Tsakiridis Antonis wrote: > I set up a ruleset for iptables v1.2.11 and want to load it automatically at > system start-up. Since I wanted it to act independently, I prefered the Sys-V > way(as opposed to the pre-up/post-down at /etc/network/interfaces). I > figured that it should be loaded bef

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Julius wrote: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>OK. (This assumes you own a home). Figure out how much you paid in >>property taxes last year. Multiply that by 50. Now, do you think you >>could fund your child(ren)'s education for 12 years on that? I could >>p

System-V style init scripts

2006-05-01 Thread Tsakiridis Antonis
I set up a ruleset for iptables v1.2.11 and want to load it automatically at system start-up. Since I wanted it to act independently, I prefered the Sys-V way(as opposed to the pre-up/post-down at /etc/network/interfaces). I figured that it should be loaded before is started 'networking' and un

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK. (This assumes you own a home). Figure out how much you paid in > property taxes last year. Multiply that by 50. Now, do you think you > could fund your child(ren)'s education for 12 years on that? I could > probably afford to educate abou

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Kent West wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > >> Well, how many of those have aircraft flying out of them that have >> the >> capacity to do damage to a building on the scale of 9/11. >> >> >> Want to know what we should be worried about? The unregulated and >> lax >> security around rental truc

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Steve Lamb wrote: > > Slap on the wrist, he's still teaching. And it is prevalent. It was oing > on when I was in high school 10 years ago. Difference here was that a student > had the cajones to record him and expose him. > Nitpick: The word "cajones" means drawers. I believe the word

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Kent West
Steve Lamb wrote: Well, how many of those have aircraft flying out of them that have the capacity to do damage to a building on the scale of 9/11. Want to know what we should be worried about? The unregulated and lax security around rental trucks. I've always thought trains are wha

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Steve Lamb wrote: > Rich Johnson wrote: > on when I was in high school 10 years ago. Difference here was that a student > had the cajones to record him and expose him. Man, wish it were 10 years ago. More like 16. *gasp* -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream?

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > I suppose that's true if you're willing to say that the vast majority of US > airports don't exist. Many television stations, hospitals, police > departments, etc. have airports that aren't government owned. So do many > ranchers and aviation clubs. Well, how many of

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > US $9,900,000,000 (billion) profits /by one oil company/ in one > quarter when retail prices were skyrocketing. Does that seem like the > oil cartel has the American interests at heart? Didn't I address just this in a message 2 days ago? I make a widget for $1, sell i

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Rich Johnson wrote: > Oh, so the objection is to _dissident_ poltical teaching. Heaven forbid > that high school students should be challenged to think and decide for > themselves. Uh, no, try again. The problem in this case there was political speech at all during a GEOGRAPHY lesson. > FWI

Re: howto start something 5 mins after boot

2006-05-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Mumia W wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, With crontab you can start things any time or day, but not in a relative way, e.g. 5 minutes after boot run a script. How would you do that? Thanks! H You could create a bootscript that uses the "at" command, like so; /etc/init.d/mybootinit: e

Re: DPI setting

2006-05-01 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 11:16:49AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Mon, 1 May 2006 08:33:50 +0100 > Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > Depending on how you start X, you may be starting it with the -dpi > > > option. (my gdm.conf uses: `X -dpi 96') > > > AFAIK, this

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 1, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Curt Howland wrote: The CIA reports US literacy rate is 99% (//www.cia.gov/cia/ publications/factbook/geos/us.html), and if thats what my government says, it must be so, right? Your government has said a lot of things that have been demonstrated false. I suggest

Re: Problem with boost

2006-05-01 Thread Christoph Nenning
Am Sonntag, 30. April 2006 18:42 schrieb Lorenzo Bettini: > Christoph Nenning wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > we are using qt-4, opencv and boost in our project. > > > > On my etch box dpkg -l libboost\* says: > > un libboost-date- (keine Beschreibung vorhanden) > > ii libboost-dev 1.33.1

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Rich Johnson
On May 1, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Quoting Rich Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On May 1, 2006, at 12:18 AM, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Cybe R. Wizard wrote: The backlash of 9-11 was like Christmas to the conservative military-industrial complex and their puppet congress-

Re: 'out of memory' errors

2006-05-01 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 01 May 2006 06:13 am, Linas ?virblis wrote: > tom arnall wrote: > >> What about streams then? > > > > please tell me how that would work? i'm not familiar with the mechanism. > > You could open a file as a stream (or a buffer, it is the same thing), > read it in chunks of reasonable lengt

Re: Handling apt-get, apt-cdrom, sources.list, cdroms.list

2006-05-01 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> >> In my Sarge stable, when I do: >> >> >> >> # apt-get build-dep emacs21 >> >> >> >> I get the following output: >> >> >> >> Building Dependency Tree... Done >> >> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list >> >> >> >> . The debian-emacsen listers sugg

Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

2006-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:46, Curt Howland wrote: > gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: eof > > On Monday 01 May 2006 11:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > > OK.  It seems that the problem in my understanding might be with > > the word "central planning".  Just what do you mean by

Re: Have DVD burner, will backup!

2006-05-01 Thread Bill Thompson
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:32:13 +0300 David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This medium makes it practical. > > Which tools are best and simplest for this? > I use DAR and a script called DARomizer which is designed to backup a hard drive to multi DVD-RW disks. DAR: http://dar.linux.free.fr/

Re: xorg upgrade error

2006-05-01 Thread steef
On Monday 01 May 2006 17:40, Tim wrote: > steef wrote: > > see the archvies for fixing this, i *believe* > > I haven't been able to locate anything similar in the archives, I have seen > other problems with xorg, but not this particular one. Perhaps I'm missing > something, do you have a link to an

Re: Samba Password Expiration

2006-05-01 Thread Philippe De Ryck
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 12:35 -0700, Brian Minton wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:55:23 -0500 Ian Melnick > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > Hi all, > > > > I recently upgraded to sarge, and now my samba passwords expire every > > couple of weeks (i think). I also think it's using this new password >

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