Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?

2007-03-01 Thread Bob McGowan
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 03:00, steef wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/07 01:14, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] yes! that went perfect for two years. last week we lost many electronic data of our (small) business because essent (energy-producer

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: Hi Folks, I'm hoping the collective wisdom of this list can point me at the right TFM. I'm also somewhat inclined to vent. The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to sarge. Now it

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote: Hello I saw two good firewalls: - Firestarter wich is easy - Shorewall wich seems versatile Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall? Personally,

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 10:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:35:09PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: And actually, if we had the means to turn over our vehicle fleet to an all electric option, that would be okay because we could then

Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/? what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ? Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C.

How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Walker
I have done a bit of posting here during my attempt to get sarge running smoothly, and my experience has shown me that I need to learn a bit on how best to use this list. I use WinXP and Gmail to communictate to the list (still struggling with debian on another box). I have been advised to reply

Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/? what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ? Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.

[SOLVED] Re: sound in iceweasel

2007-03-01 Thread andy
Mark Grieveson wrote: Hi all My wife has run into a problem using iceweasel to access a site like 123greetings.com - none of the cards are playing a sound. She is using KDE. When she's tried using konqueror it simply borks and displays a dialog box asking whether she wants to use

Re: ssh

2007-03-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2007-03-01 09:28:47 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Right, but with keychain they persist even after you log out. This is nice because then your keys *can* have a passphrase and you can still use them for unattended things like cron jobs. Of course, if the machine suts down, you need to

Re: making the smartest use of SE Linux

2007-03-01 Thread andy
Kevin Mark wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:53:02PM +, andy wrote: Dear all I noted with interest that Etch seems to automatically include SE Linux as part of the packages, and I was wanting a bit of a steer about how I, as a user on a

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Jordi
Thanks Roberto I will do then the effort and try to install and use Shorewall. Jordi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:36:38PM +0100, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/? what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?

Re: how to send files from a pc to my home server and viceversa

2007-03-01 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 08:26 -0800, Jordi wrote: I hear most people around me using all those modem/router as synonims. That's probably because sometime they are both. My modem (the one supplied to me by my ISP) is also a router. It's an Actiontec GT701-WG, DSL Modem with Wireless Gateway.

Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Bob McGowan
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/? what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ? Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem. Regards,

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Kent West
On 3/1/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't create a separate thread with each e-mail. If I use the reply button in Gmail, the reply goes to the sender, and not to the list. It would be infinitely better for me to keep similar

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Jordi
I saw that shorewall can have a GUI if I also install Webmin. Is Webmin a good tool to install? has some kind of disavantage? Is it better to not use webmin? Thanks Jordi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Start over with Speedtouch was (Re: how to send ...)

2007-03-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 08:26 -0800, Jordi wrote: Thanks Greg, [...snip a whole lot of cruft that need not be paid attention to...] Okay, let us start out with a fresh understanding. I finally found the proper documentation of the Thomson Speedtouch 530v6. Yes, this particular device is an ADSL

who is responsible to keep the list of used $DISPLAYs at system level

2007-03-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Pardon my ignorance on the subject: flow of X connections etc The problem is -- the user logs in into a remote system via ssh with X forwarding and gets assigned DISPLAY=:13.0. The problem is that he doesn't get authority over :13 since :13 is occupied by another user running VNC :13 (which seems

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote: Hello I saw two good firewalls: - Firestarter wich is easy - Shorewall wich seems versatile Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall? The fact that

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread John Stoffel
Jordi I saw two good firewalls: Jordi - Firestarter wich is easy Jordi - Shorewall wich seems versatile Just to be contrary, I like and use m0n0wall (http://www.m0n0.ch) at home in a WRAP board. Very nice, very quiet, plenty of performance. Nice web based interface, boots off compact flash,

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:55:45AM -0600, Kent West wrote: On 3/1/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't create a separate thread with each e-mail. If I use the reply button in Gmail, the reply goes to the sender, and not to

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:50:02AM -0800, Jordi wrote: I saw that shorewall can have a GUI if I also install Webmin. Is Webmin a good tool to install? has some kind of disavantage? Is it better to not use webmin? Personally, I don't like webmin as it insulates too much from you. If you

Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:08:25AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/? what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ? Using

Re: how to send files from a pc to my home server and viceversa

2007-03-01 Thread Jordi
Hello Michael I liked the description of your network, was very clear. So those called router-switch maybe be a router that comes with a switch inside to do what you've done. Jordi On 1 mar, 19:10, Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 08:26 -0800, Jordi wrote: I hear

Re: who is responsible to keep the list of used $DISPLAYs at system level

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 01:09:16PM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Pardon my ignorance on the subject: flow of X connections etc The problem is -- the user logs in into a remote system via ssh with X forwarding and gets assigned DISPLAY=:13.0. The problem is that he doesn't get authority

Re: linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-x

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:44:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Is there a place where the difference between these latest kernel binary images is documented, other than looking thru the

Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:36:38PM +0100, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default

IPTables Port Forwarding

2007-03-01 Thread Johnno
Hello Need a little bit of help here... eth1 = Internet, eth0 = LAN, will this work? iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.50:80 iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 80 -i eth1 -j ACCEPT Anything on port 80 to goto a internal server

Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Pete Clarke
Hi there, What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within Linux .. I would like to use Sarge, standard PC - and attach something like the WD My Book Pro 1TB drive, ideally via firewire... Cheers, Pete. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread dd-b
Hi there, What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within Linux .. I would like to use Sarge, standard PC - and attach something like the WD My Book Pro 1TB drive, ideally via firewire... I'm using individual drives in external cases attached to a Sarge system via

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1r5 booting process aborted during installation.

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 03:41:34PM +0900, KUMANOSUKE wrote: Dear Andrew, [...] You're welcome. I'd like to reply to the list also from now on. The k7 kernel seems to have been installed automatically during the installation process. I've got debian-31r5-i386-binary-1.iso file from the

Re: Debian 4

2007-03-01 Thread John W. Foster
On Monday 26 February 2007 17:19, Phil Walton wrote: stuff snipped I accept all of that. My main point was how misleading it is to be publishing headlines about an upcoming release when clearly nothing of the sort exists.

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070228 18:21]: I remember reading an article in a German audiophile magazine about a device to demagnetize CDs. The author claimed the sound to be much better after

Re: Debian 4

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:07:30 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:54:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:19:23 + Phil Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I accept all of that. My main point was how misleading it is to be

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070228 18:21]: I remember reading an article in a German audiophile magazine about a device to demagnetize CDs. The author claimed the

Re: Start over with Speedtouch was (Re: how to send ...)

2007-03-01 Thread Jordi
Thanks for your recommendations Greg In linksys they say: * All-in-one Internet-sharing Router, 4-port Switch, and Wireless- G (802.11g) Access Point * Shares a single Internet connection and other resources with Ethernet wired and Wireless-G clients * Wireless data rates up to 54Mbps

Re: static IP

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On 28 Feb 2007 22:37:27 -0800 Jordi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Andrew So I leave it that way. Why I saw sometimes in some web sites this kind of static ips starting by 10.xxx.xxx.xxx and /number ? There are three ranges of IP numbers reserved for private (as in non-internet) use:

Qemu and tun/tab usage - /dev/net/tun permissions

2007-03-01 Thread Bob McGowan
Hi, I'm trying to set up bridged networking for a Qemu guest system. The doc I have says I need to do a 'chmod 666 /dev/net/tun' to be able to do this. And, I see the permissions on it are: crw--- 1 root root 10, 200 2007-02-27 16:28 /dev/net/tun So, methinks, I should fix the udev

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: Mitja Podreka wrote: It can comfortably run at speeds which are within the speed limits and is probably as safe as Hummer and similar monsters. If you think well within speed limits and safe are one and the same, you're sorely mistaken. What a lot of

OT: Speed Freaks (was Re: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mitja Podreka wrote: What I meant is: why do you need a car which can go 250km/h if your country doesn't allow you to go faster than 130km/h. Saying that I must say that driving 130km/h with Yugo or same speed in BMW is completely different thing.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should drive, how they should live, etc  You ought to be using Windows, not an OS built on freedom of choice You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than in difference, right? --

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Jordi wrote: Hello Paul RFC says stealth should never be used. And if I don't use stealth, what do I use? I thought by what we talked here that ports in linux are closed if I don't forward them. Closed sends an actual closed response, stealth is like trying to talk to Terry Schaivo. You

Re: OT: Speed Freaks (was Re: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-03-01 Thread Michael Dominok
Am Donnerstag, den 01.03.2007, 21:09 +0100 schrieb Joe Hart: I managed to get my old Opel Vectra 2.0 up to 220 km/h (136 mph for you Americans), which is not too shabby. Things come at you pretty quick at that speed. Seeing you eMail-Address i have to ask: Was this with or without a trailer?

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Jordi
I take note, John and Roberto. John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a hardware firewall. Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be an expert. I will try to do as you say, and learn a bit. Thanks for your opinions. Jordi On 1 mar, 19:50,

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/07 08:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Mar, Steve Lamb wrote: Joe Hart wrote: [snip] the public transportation is much quicker there. I doubt that any road design could compete with a good public transportation

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 20:24, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:16:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: [snip] I know what you mean. I drive a '97 Mazda. I get 33-36 MPG in mixed city/highway (daily commute and such)

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I also have a 1969 Oldsmobile 442, a 1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais and a 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Classic (being a reworked and completely fluffed up remaining 1987's that were not sold). All have had the engines,

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juergen Fiedler wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote: Hello I saw two good firewalls: - Firestarter wich is easy - Shorewall wich seems versatile Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:31, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070228 18:21]: I remember reading an article in a German audiophile magazine about a device

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: So, I guess Al Gore using a private jet and huge limos and other large contingents of vehicles makes him a non-enemy (yes, I used that term intentionally). Al Gore, quite famously, drives himself around in a Prius. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:44, Andrew Perrin wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070228 18:21]: [snip]

Re: linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-x

2007-03-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:44:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Is there a place where the difference between these latest kernel binary images is documented,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 12:59, Paul Johnson wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 20:24, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:16:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: [snip] I know what you mean.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Mitja Podreka wrote: What I meant is: why do you need a car which can go 250km/h if your country doesn't allow you to go faster than 130km/h. Uhm, because maybe you'll drive it somewhere other than where speed is limited? That not everyone just putters along and that speed and you might

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:35, Paul Johnson wrote: Freddy Freeloader wrote: Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should drive, how they should live, etc You ought to be using Windows, not an OS built on freedom of choice

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:44, Andrew Perrin wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070228

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 14:19, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] Can you be a little more careful in your editing (snipping)? You are crediting me with statements that I didn't make. Sorry. As for dense and good, they are both quite relative. The city I live in has

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: #3) Locomotives are *not* /hybrids/. Er... wha? Diesel engine which powers the electric engine. Hybrid car is a gas engine powering an electric one. Are you saying the difference in fuel is what makes a loco non-hybrid? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who

Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote: I think you hit it on the head. Because it's available. One of the quirks of living in this liberal country is that it is _not_ illegal to download films and music from the internet. Some loophole in the copyright law. I always thought it was a strange dichotomy that I

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:03, Pete Clarke wrote: Hi there, What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within Linux .. I would like to use Sarge, standard PC - and attach something like the WD My Book Pro 1TB drive, ideally via

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: So, I guess Al Gore using a private jet and huge limos and other large contingents of vehicles makes him a non-enemy (yes, I used that term intentionally). Al Gore, quite famously, drives himself around in a Prius. While spending more in a month

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it's true that public transportation is not a good solution for much of rural America, it's also true that it is woefully underused areas where it could work. Er... in what reality? Pretty much every major metro area that has tried public

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: two for one: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:38:24PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are two of 'em a crutch for not leaning on your

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on your specific situation. :-) You mean like the people who are making generalizations based on their specific situation? Oh, it's great for me to bike everywhere! Peachy, doesn't count for the vast

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are two of 'em a crutch for not leaning on your local officials to fix public transport? Paul, public transportation is a farce, plain and simple. It comes down to one simple fact.

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Joe Hart wrote: You're quite right that it would take 2 hours to complete a bus trip of 20 miles there. Here on the other hand, the same trip would take most likely 20 minutes because there are dedicated bus routes, so they don't have to mess with the traffic. It does make stops frequently,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:40:13PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: So, I guess Al Gore using a private jet and huge limos and other large contingents of vehicles makes him a non-enemy (yes, I used that term intentionally). Al Gore, quite famously,

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 07:03:46PM -, Pete Clarke wrote: Hi there, What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within Linux .. I would like to use Sarge, standard PC - and attach something like the WD My Book Pro 1TB drive, ideally via firewire... I have a RAID1

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:35:00AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Freddy Freeloader wrote: Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should drive, how they should live, etc  You ought to be using Windows, not an OS built on freedom of choice You realize that GNU

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Franck Joncourt
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: I take note, John and Roberto. John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a hardware firewall. Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be an expert. I will try to do as you say, and learn

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:04:54 +0100 Mitja Podreka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Cars like Hummer, 18 meters long limos, excessively pimped group 1. cars,... Needed for driving oversized egos American readers must also consider the different culture/income. I can confirm that, while roads are

Re: Debian 4

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:44:16PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:07:30 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:54:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:19:23 + Phil Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: I take note, John and Roberto. John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a hardware firewall. Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Pete Clarke
I have a RAID1 running on a pair of external FW drives. I've found that Linux is picky about the chipset on the external drives, however, and have had some cases that work under MacOS X not work at all under Linux. I also ran into a situation in which two identical cases could not be

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 14:38, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: #3) Locomotives are *not* /hybrids/. Er... wha? Diesel engine which powers the electric engine. Hybrid car is a gas engine powering an electric one. Are you saying the difference in

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 01 March 2007 15:40, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than in difference, right? False. Socialist practices are ones of state concentration of power, collective

Re: OT: Speed Freaks (was Re: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Dominok wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 01.03.2007, 21:09 +0100 schrieb Joe Hart: I managed to get my old Opel Vectra 2.0 up to 220 km/h (136 mph for you Americans), which is not too shabby. Things come at you pretty quick at that speed.

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:28:57 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all you non-believers (sorry, too much religion in recent threads) here is a similar article: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/furutech/rd2.html Just because some some snob audiophile says we must degauss

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Paul Johnson wrote: Freddy Freeloader wrote: Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should drive, how they should live, etc You ought to be using Windows, not an OS built on freedom of choice You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:45:42 -0800 Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on your specific situation. :-) You mean like the people who are making generalizations based on their specific situation?

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: Detached single family dwellings, row housing or apartment buildings? All of the above, as well as duplex housing (2 houses 1 roof). The closer you get to the center of the city the higher the apartment buildings, but most of

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: Joe Hart wrote: You're quite right that it would take 2 hours to complete a bus trip of 20 miles there. Here on the other hand, the same trip would take most likely 20 minutes because there are dedicated bus routes, so they

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 23:42 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:45:42 -0800 Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on your specific situation. :-) You mean like the people who

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 15:36, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:28:57 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all you non-believers (sorry, too much religion in recent threads) here is a similar article:

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 15:51, Joe Hart wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Joe Hart wrote: [snip] However, I was exaggerating a bit. To go the 26 km from here to Amsterdam, it takes about a half of an hour with the car or the bus. The difference is I have to find a

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 15:42, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:45:42 -0800 Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on your specific situation. :-) You

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
For all you non-believers (sorry, too much religion in recent threads) here is a similar article: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/furutech/rd2.html The proponents of CD degaussing are nothing more than witch doctors practicing voodoo. Voodoo has power only to the extent that the intended

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:11:27PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:36:49PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: 2. Try to explain to a non-geek the differences between vim and emacs. Very simple: vim is a good text editor, whilst emacs is an operating system lacking a good text editor :-) Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:43:44PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Reston was designed as a place where one could live, shop and work without having to leave the community. Each subdivision has it's own shopping center, and office buildings are scattered throughout. There are also bicycle/walking

Re: who is responsible to keep the list of used $DISPLAYs at system level

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 05:51:53PM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Thank you Roberto, The problem seems to boil down to an issue in sshd (bug #152250 since woody's times), so I am pursuing this subject further on -devel. But why do you want lower ones for ssh X forwarding? I would do the

Re: who is responsible to keep the list of used $DISPLAYs at system level

2007-03-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thank you Roberto, The problem seems to boil down to an issue in sshd (bug #152250 since woody's times), so I am pursuing this subject further on -devel. But why do you want lower ones for ssh X forwarding? I would do the opposite probably since lower numbers are easier to remember for VNC

Re: Qemu and tun/tab usage - /dev/net/tun permissions

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:53:31AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up bridged networking for a Qemu guest system. The doc I have says I need to do a 'chmod 666 /dev/net/tun' to be able to do this. And, I see the permissions on it are: crw--- 1 root root 10, 200

Re: Microsoft soft *CAN NOT* acquire Linux...

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:40:57PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: SNIP masterful shredding of nonsensical articl In any case, I just thought I'd let you know, that Microsoft itself teaches its SMB protocol stack using the Samba code... mainly because it isn't spaghetti code and it is bug-for-bug

Java: Error occurred during initialization of VM

2007-03-01 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a problem with a Java plugin for Mozilla. For example in the link: http://voipreview.org/voipspeedtester.aspx I receive the below error in the terminal VM did not start up properly Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object Could

Re: Java: Error occurred during initialization of VM

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:18:25PM +0200, gustavo halperin wrote: I have installed the last Jre, version 1.5-0-11. I installed it from the RPM. I mean I transform the RPM to deb using allien and then installing it with dpkg -i. I'm also using the last stable mozilla for debian. Any idea

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot record - but I don't even know the right terminology to figure out what to

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: [snip] I'll make one tonight, and try re-installing LILO. Then I'll doubtless be on to the next problem, but it's a stage in

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Walker
I gave it a try...how's this? On 3/1/07, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:55:45AM -0600, Kent West wrote: On 3/1/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't create a separate thread with

Re: Qemu and tun/tab usage - /dev/net/tun permissions

2007-03-01 Thread Bob McGowan
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:53:31AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up bridged networking for a Qemu guest system. The doc I have says I need to do a 'chmod 666 /dev/net/tun' to be able to do this. And, I see the permissions on it are: crw---

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