Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-25 Thread Wayne Topa
Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Wayne Topa wrote: Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: My GF has a Debian/GNOME/CUPS machine, and wishes to associate more than one queue with it. I use Fedora/GNOME/CUPS and have no problem doing that, but so far

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sep 25, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 04:25:22PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Sid Arth wrote: I want to have rtorrent running in the background once I turn it on via ssh. Is there a way to keep rtorrent running even after

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Sid Arth
What is screen? On 9/25/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 04:25:22PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Sid Arth wrote: I want to have rtorrent running in the background once

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-25 Thread Steve Lamb
David Brodbeck wrote: As long as you realize it probably won't look the same to the other person, unless they have the same Word version, the same operating system, and the same fonts. It will look similar enough. It's rare that someone sends me a complicated Word file and I'm able to

Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-25 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 18:43 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 15:04 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: That's precisely it. It appears to me that the GNOME printer manager shipped with Debian is either broken or deficient in this area.

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread John Hasler
Mike writes: Once again, mail to you has bounced. ?? If you read here regularly, then you would have seen the reports, I most likely did. So what? How am I to know which of the innumerable reports posted here you refer to? My only point was this: She's leaving Debian because she perceives

Re: Spamassassin and Exim4

2007-09-25 Thread Daniel D Jones
On Monday 24 September 2007 19:03:47 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 06:40:58PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: On Monday 24 September 2007 15:50:58 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I've reconfigured the file with your recommendations and restarted exim. I'm still not

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark Phillips wrote: Mike, you have to realize that support is provided by volunteers who have lives (families, children, jobs, little league, etc.) outside of supporting the software. There is no guarentee of any support when you install Debian. But it

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 19:23 -0500, Sid Arth escribió: What is screen? apt-cache show screen It let's you do a lot of fancy stuff in the terminal (have multiple windows, detach the session and reattach it, copy/paste with the keyboard and a lot of other stuff). It's exactly what you need.

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 07:23:55PM -0500, Sid Arth wrote: What is screen? http://packages.debian.org/sid/screen http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 458, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Debian install to Inspiron 530 with SATA DVD drive

2007-09-25 Thread Jeff D
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Simon wrote: Hi There, We are trying to install debian etch onto our Inspiron 530 that has a SATA DVD drive, but the installer cannot detect the CD drive once it is booted. How do i move forward here? Thanks Simon Something that you might want to try is to set your

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
s. keeling wrote: [snip] fwiw, I've found a really good place to ask difficult questions is in debian-mentors. Thanks for the pointer. If I can convince her not to wipe Debian from the disc, I think I'll subscribe there as well. I don't have much hopes on that point, however. Mike --

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mike Bird wrote: On Tuesday 25 September 2007 12:45, Mike McCarty wrote: I'm not trying to be mean, either. I'm reporting a single event. We're all volunteers here. You too. If you find time I guess some of us would appreciate your posting links to

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, you can launch jobs with at as well. hth, Jerome Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 19:23 -0500, Sid Arth escribió: What is screen? apt-cache show screen It let's you do a lot of fancy stuff in the terminal (have multiple windows, detach the session and reattach it,

Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 06:43:47PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Gabriel Parrondo wrote: Why are you saying the version shipped with Debian is broken? Have you tried it on other distros and it's different? Yes. [snip] This is gnome, love it or leave it! Works on

Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Gabriel Parrondo wrote: El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 18:43 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: Works on my distro. I can't get it to work with Debian. Cool! What distro is that? What version of gnome does it run? Maybe it's running a newer version that didn't hit debian yet. I'm normally not into

Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Wayne Topa wrote: Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: [that he couldn's use the GUI to put multiple queues on one printer] I don't run Gnome or KDE here I hope they accept the Cups config. If not, someone someone that does run them, should submit a bug report. CUPS

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:05:53 -0700, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sep 24, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote: I use XEMacs daily to produce LaTeX documents. I have frequent need to search my archives of material I have written in the past, and I use grep for this

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin Marcher wrote: Why is it that simple statments, preceded by disclaimers indicating that they are not complaints, get treated as complaints? Hello, I'm interested in the job offer you posted on Sarcasm is unbecoming, especially since I

Re: Debian install to Inspiron 530 with SATA DVD drive

2007-09-25 Thread michael
Quoting Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi There, We are trying to install debian etch onto our Inspiron 530 that has a SATA DVD drive, but the installer cannot detect the CD drive once it is booted. How do i move forward here? Sounds like etch doesn't have the drivers for your sata controller.

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread cothrige
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Hasler wrote: I don't see that you provided any useful information. Then it wasn't directed at you. There are those here who have expressed a desire for Linux to be a viable alternative to Windows for more users. It was directed at those

Re: How do I know debian has detected all my hardware?

2007-09-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/07 18:44, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 02:29:45AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Hey guys, I recently installed etch on this old laptop and have no problems with it whatsoever. I had no hardware issues or anything. It

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/07 19:11, David Brodbeck wrote: [snip] changes. About the time we hit the 650 page mark, Word started corrupting the file and it became impossible to go through more than a few edit/save cycles before the file became unreadable and we had

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kent West wrote: Like he said, he's not complaining, or asking for help, or asking for information; he's just saying that we have room for improvement. Well, yes, but it remains to be seen whether everyone considers this room for improvement. A

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-25 Thread John Hasler
David Brodbeck writes: TeX is awesome for writing books and scientific papers. If you're writing a letter to Grandma, though, OpenOffice is better suited. Now _that_ sounds like driving a semi truck to the supermarket to pick up a bottle of milk. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Repost of some earlier described challenges

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
These have (nearly) all been posted before, but some have requested that they be reposted. If you don't like reading stuff YET AGAIN, then just skip this message, please. My GF installed a USB mouse, and her keyboard went away. They work together with THE OTHER OS. IIRC (it's been a while) using

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Sid Arth
Thanks its working perfectly On 9/25/07, Jerome BENOIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, you can launch jobs with at as well. hth, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
cothrige wrote: After walking in from a day of my kids' soccer matches I noticed this thread and feel I really must post a comment. I may be very late to It seems like just one of those things, doesn't it :-) [snip] which posts or questions were those being talked about here. Really,

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-25 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:27:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Good thing that what I'm writing is not at all complex. The two most complex things are italics and indent-first-line. [...] Am I writing a book? Yes. Am I writing a technical book? No! I am writing fiction. I

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: Well, yes, but it remains to be seen whether everyone considers this room for improvement. A lot of projects and products spend a lot of time working on non-goals; the question at hand is whether adoption by the level of user in question is or is not a goal. I'm

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/07 19:27, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] Am I writing a book? Yes. Am I writing a technical book? No! I am writing fiction. I have no in-line graphics, complex font changes for examples, silly little icons to denote special

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Guillermo Garron
On 9/25/07, Sid Arth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to have rtorrent running in the background once I turn it on via ssh. Is there a way to keep rtorrent running even after I close the session? I like to use ctorrent,

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:55:26AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: I have some feedback about my GF who uses Debian at my suggestion. I have no irons in the fire on this one, as I don't use Debian, though I do administer her machine for her. So, please don't take this as a complaint from me, as it

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 22:57 -0400, Guillermo Garron escribió: On 9/25/07, Sid Arth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to have rtorrent running in the background once I turn it on via ssh. Is there a way to keep rtorrent running even after I close the session? I like to use ctorrent,

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:17:05PM -0500, cothrige wrote: Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip I believe that is what the poster above was saying, and most likely you understood him as being defensive or confrontational. I really don't think the people here are trying to be in any

Re: Debian install to Inspiron 530 with SATA DVD drive

2007-09-25 Thread Simon
On 9/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi There, We are trying to install debian etch onto our Inspiron 530 that has a SATA DVD drive, but the installer cannot detect the CD drive once it is booted. How do i move forward here? Sounds

Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges

2007-09-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: These have (nearly) all been posted before, but some have requested that they be reposted. If you don't like reading stuff YET AGAIN, then just skip this message, please. My GF installed a USB mouse, and

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:26:06 +0800 Jerome BENOIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, you can launch jobs with at as well. I don't think ncurses apps will necessarily run successfully via at; mc doesn't, and I think I recall that rtorrent itself didn't (it isn't currently installed). hth,

Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges

2007-09-25 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:10:17 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers. I use a Dell USB keyboard, scavenged from an old desktop. It just works: usb 1-1: new full speed USB

Re: Search for string in files

2007-09-25 Thread William Pursell
Johannes Tax wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to find a certain string inside a bunch of files. If I, for examples, look for a certain function in a large source tree, I could do cat `find . -name '*.c'` | grep 'a_certain_function' but this seems quite awkward, furthermore it doesn't help

Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges

2007-09-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On 09/25/07 21:33, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] USB keyboard? (I've always been leery of them, because of the mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers. Oops! I somehow neglected to specify... PS/2 style keyboard PS/2 style mouse Keyboard works PS/2 style keyboard USB

Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges

2007-09-25 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:50:44 -0500 Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snipped the on-topic stuff] Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Rob Mahurin wrote: I know you've settled on OOo, but it's worth pointing out that TeX is a simple language if you're writing a simple document. In particular you are already writing valid plain TeX in your email. Copy the above (without the 's) into file.txt; change /'thinking'/ to {\it

Re: How do I know debian has detected all my hardware?

2007-09-25 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:21:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/07 18:44, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 02:29:45AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Hey guys, I recently installed etch on this old laptop and have no

Re: wireless keyboard encryption

2007-09-25 Thread Celejar
[catching up on a d-u backlog] On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:23:07 -0600 Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I think you'll find that even good wireless keyboards won't easily penetrate more than a single wall of your home, and won't extend very far past an exterior wall in most setups,

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-25 Thread Peter Robinson
Steve Lamb wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: The output is PostScript so I kept a copy of GhostView (gv) running (watching the file) and whenever I wanted to see how things looked, just ran lout on my file to the same output file name. Yeahhh, no thanks. I don't like coding HTML

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-25 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070926 00:35]: If you write in latex you can always convert to RTF via latex2rtf, which in my experience works excellently. If needed, it is no big deal to convert this to word format. It is definitely worth the effort to learn latex. This afternoon, out

Re: Tool for document management

2007-09-25 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Manoj Srivastava shared this with us all: --} On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:05:53 -0700, David Brodbeck --} [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --} --} On Sep 24, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote: --} I use XEMacs daily to produce LaTeX documents. I have frequent need --} to search

Re: Is it possible to keep a program running even when when no users are logged in

2007-09-25 Thread Masatran, R. Deepak
* Sid Arth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-25 I want to have rtorrent running in the background once I turn it on via ssh. Is there a way to keep rtorrent running even after I close the session? Nohup, Screen, and VNC (in increasing order of complexity). I have a small introduction to screen at

Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges

2007-09-25 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 25-09-2007 a las 21:33 -0500, Mike McCarty escribió: [snip of something I can't help with] She can't associate multiple queues with a single printer, but there is already another thread about that. There is currently no work around, but there is hope that using the CUPS I/F directly

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