Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8

2012-08-11 Thread jipenunux
On 10/08/2012 20:35, maderios wrote: Je parie que ces développeurs reviendront à ce que tout logiciel d'édition sait faire: laisser le choix à l'utilisateur. /mode raz le bol/ je pense que vous avez du mal à vous servir d'un clavier :-) parce que le choix d'enregistrement, vous l'avez sans

Re: configuration du touchpad sous Xfce 4.6.2

2012-08-11 Thread jeanlo...@pop.orange.fr
Le Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:39:14 +0200, daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit : Bonjour Le 10/08/2012 15:00, jeanlo...@pop.orange.fr a écrit : Bonjour J'ai un portable sous Squeeze avec Xfce 4.6.2 comme environnement de bureau et je rencontre un problème pour configurer le touchpad

Re: configuration du touchpad sous Xfce 4.6.2

2012-08-11 Thread rsvcakaiser
Hello, Ce truc est a régler dans avec la config du serveur X: de memoire dans /usr/share/xorg/xorg.conf/ il y a un fichier de type 50-synaptics.conf . Il faut decommenter la capture de evenements du touchpad et activer les options (option 1 = tapbutton 1, option 2=...). Debian doit avoir un

Debian passe à Xfce

2012-08-11 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Bonjour, Je viens de voir que Debian abandonne Gnome comme bureau par défaut pour passer à Xfce. Sale temps pour Gnome qui paie sûrement un peu son obstination à ne pas écouter les critiques (et continue à s'enfoncer avec les modifications dans nautilus 3.5) même si officiellement c'est pour un

Re: Debian passe à Xfce

2012-08-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:53:05AM +0200, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Sale temps pour Gnome qui paie sûrement un peu son obstination à ne pas écouter les critiques (et continue à s'enfoncer avec les modifications dans nautilus 3.5) même si officiellement c'est pour un manque de place sur le

Re: Debian passe à Xfce

2012-08-11 Thread David Pinson
Le 11/08/2012 12:20, Charles Plessy a écrit : Le Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:53:05AM +0200, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Sale temps pour Gnome qui paie sûrement un peu son obstination à ne pas écouter les critiques (et continue à s'enfoncer avec les modifications dans nautilus 3.5) même si

Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8

2012-08-11 Thread aishen
Le 10/08/2012 20:51, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:35:28 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit: On 08/10/2012 08:03 PM, Guy Roussin wrote: On est bien vendredi ? ... Ce que les développeurs de Gimp ne semblent pas admettre, c'est que c'est le logiciel qui doit s'adapter

Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8

2012-08-11 Thread Pascal Obry
Le 11/08/2012 13:10, aishen a écrit : Y en a qu'on toujours à redire... Mais voyant la qualité de gimp-2.8 en plus gratuit... Je trouve qu'il n'y a vraiment rien à redire encore moins sur le plan pro... Ce logiciel est tout simplement un miracle pour la communauté linux ! Ou alors quand on a

Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
On 08/11/2012 03:01 PM, Pascal Obry wrote: Le 11/08/2012 13:10, aishen a écrit : Y en a qu'on toujours à redire... Mais voyant la qualité de gimp-2.8 en plus gratuit... Je trouve qu'il n'y a vraiment rien à redire encore moins sur le plan pro... Ce logiciel est tout simplement un miracle pour

Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
On 08/11/2012 09:02 AM, jipenunux wrote: On 10/08/2012 20:35, maderios wrote: Je parie que ces développeurs reviendront à ce que tout logiciel d'édition sait faire: laisser le choix à l'utilisateur. /mode raz le bol/ je pense que vous avez du mal à vous servir d'un clavier 13 ans de Linux au

Re: HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
Ne pas écouter la base est LE moyen de s'aliéner cette même base... Sur la gimp user list, La discussion est animée concernant le sujet [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de

Re: Debian passe à Xfce

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
On 08/11/2012 12:38 PM, David Pinson wrote: Le 11/08/2012 12:20, Charles Plessy a écrit : Le Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:53:05AM +0200, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Sale temps pour Gnome qui paie sûrement un peu son obstination à ne pas écouter les critiques (et continue à s'enfoncer avec les

Re: Debian passe à Xfce

2012-08-11 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:31:39 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: On peut faire le parallèle avec ce qui se passe avec la nouvelle version de Gimp (voir fil 'HS Important défaut de Gimp-2.8') Des développeurs sont persuadés d'avoir raison, sont sourds aux avis des utilisateurs. Résultat

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread Javier Silva
El día 10 de agosto de 2012 17:31, Marc Olive marc.ol...@blauadvisors.com escribió: On Friday 10 August 2012 16:59:56 Javier Silva wrote: Debian es para todo el mundo, para el que comienza y para el que cambia, cuantos más seamos, mucho mejor. Falso. Cada cual tiene la distribución y el

presentación

2012-08-11 Thread Miguel Ángel Ordóñez
Muy buenas. Me llamo Miguel Ángel y soy de Ronda (Málaga,España). Soy un enamorado del proyecto gnu/ linux, soy un eterno novato, pero creo que es el momento de dar un paso más y comenzar a colaborar de alguna manera. Aunque uso ubuntu en mi portátil dell xps M1330, quiero dar el salto a Debian.

Re: Libre Office 3.6

2012-08-11 Thread Debian GMail
El 10/08/12 21:53, José Alejandro escribió: El jue, 09-08-2012 a las 17:50 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: Preguntonta: ¿Alguien descargó, instaló y probó Libre Office 3.6 en un sistema wheezy amd64? Quiero hacerlo, y la experiencia ajena siempre es bienvenida. JAP Hola ... Ya lo baje e

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread Emiliano M. Rudenick
El Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:48:57 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:28:24 -0300, Augusto Lescano escribió: (ese html...) Me parece muy bien. Lo que no entiendo es ¿Qué hay de malo con esto? Si quieren gnome seguro estará en el segundo o tercer cd. No

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread Emiliano M. Rudenick
El Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:30:54 +0200 Marc Olive marc.ol...@blauadvisors.com escribió: On Friday 10 August 2012 08:51:06 Javier Silva wrote: (...) Siempre se ha dicho que Debian no es una distribución para novatos, Ubuntu está muchisimo mas orientada al usuario y para gente que no quiere

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto
Emiliano M. Rudenick escribió: El Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:30:54 +0200 Marc Olive marc.ol...@blauadvisors.com escribió: On Friday 10 August 2012 08:51:06 Javier Silva wrote: (...) Siempre se ha dicho que Debian no es una distribución para novatos, Ubuntu está muchisimo mas orientada al usuario y

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)
El 09/08/12 16:48, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:28:24 -0300, Augusto Lescano escribió: (ese html...) Me parece muy bien. Lo que no entiendo es ¿Qué hay de malo con esto? Si quieren gnome seguro estará en el segundo o tercer cd. No tiene nada de malo (GNOME seguirá estando

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread Marc Olive
On Saturday 11 August 2012 17:50:37 José Manuel (EB8CXW) wrote: El 09/08/12 16:48, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:28:24 -0300, Augusto Lescano escribió: (ese html...) Me parece muy bien. Lo que no entiendo es ¿Qué hay de malo con esto? Si quieren gnome seguro estará en el

Elección final [Era: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD]

2012-08-11 Thread Miguel Matos
Y, para finalizar la nota que compartí que encendió la mecha, les diré esto: Cuando instalé Ubuntu 12.04, fue una colección de errores. Y por ello me quedaré con la 11.10. Y si Debian Wheezey traerá muchos problemas (como he visto), mejor me quedo con Squeeze hasta la versión 8. He dicho. --

Re: Elección final [Era: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD]

2012-08-11 Thread Marc Olive
On Saturday 11 August 2012 19:01:38 Miguel Matos wrote: Y si Debian Wheezey traerá muchos problemas (como he visto), mejor me quedo con Squeeze hasta la versión 8. ¿Y que has visto que te vaya a traer muchos problemas? Por curiosidad, mas que nada. He dicho. -- Marc Olivé Blau Advisors

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread Emiliano M. Rudenick
El Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:01:40 -0300 Sergio Bessopeanetto sbes...@myopera.com escribió: Emiliano M. Rudenick escribió: El Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:30:54 +0200 Marc Olive marc.ol...@blauadvisors.com escribió: On Friday 10 August 2012 08:51:06 Javier Silva wrote: (...) Siempre se ha dicho que

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread Ruben
El vie, 10-08-2012 a las 12:30 +0200, Marc Olive escribió: . Si lo vemos desde el plano de un usuario que llega a Linux y desea realizar una instalación, creo que XFCE, no es el mejor de los entornos para empezar, aunque claro es mi punto de vista. Yo no recomendaria Debian a un

Re: Consulta con dominio en windows y unir a AD 2003

2012-08-11 Thread Debian GMail
El 10/08/12 23:02, Debian GMail escribió: El 10/08/12 20:32, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió: Instala likewiseopen ¿Y en cuál de todos los repositorios de Debian está? No, en ninguno. Está en Canonical. Por lo que si Carlos hace caso de tu sugerencia, se va a tener que liar un poquito para

Re: Libre Office 3.6

2012-08-11 Thread José Alejandro
El sáb, 11-08-2012 a las 09:28 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: El 10/08/12 21:53, José Alejandro escribió: El jue, 09-08-2012 a las 17:50 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: Preguntonta: ¿Alguien descargó, instaló y probó Libre Office 3.6 en un sistema wheezy amd64? Quiero hacerlo, y la

Re: Nota: Debian cambia GNOME por Xfce para Wheezey. La razón: GNOME es demasiado grande para caber en un CD

2012-08-11 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)
El 11/08/12 17:17, Marc Olive escribió: On Saturday 11 August 2012 17:50:37 José Manuel (EB8CXW) wrote: El 09/08/12 16:48, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:28:24 -0300, Augusto Lescano escribió: (ese html...) Me parece muy bien. Lo que no entiendo es ¿Qué hay de malo con esto? Si

Re: Debian Installation Guiden

2012-08-11 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 7 augusti 2012 11:16 skrev Anders Jackson anders.jack...@gmail.com: Hoppas dom snart utser någon som kan ta över. Varför inte du själv ? :). Du menad väl Varför inte jag själv ;-) Tänkte inte på det.. ;) -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Översätta guiden (var: Re: Debian Installation Guiden)

2012-08-11 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 7 augusti 2012 11:31 skrev Anders Jackson anders.jack...@gmail.com: Brukar vara bra att skicka in en sorts förändring i taget. Exempelvis ett kapitel eller ett annat ordval över hela dokumentet. Större ändringar diskuteras gärna först så att man inte lägger ner för mycket jobb i onödan...

Re: xinitrc och

2012-08-11 Thread Jacob Gaarde
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:50:01 +0200 Anders Jackson anders.jack...@gmail.com wrote: jeg har (haft) samme problem : jag@jag-tp:~$ ls -lart | grep -i xinitrc lrwxrwxrwx 1 jag jag 8 Jan 6 2010 .xsessionrc - .xinitrc -rwxr-xr-x 1 jag jag 4049 Jun 1 23:08 .xinitrc

windows

2012-08-11 Thread mattias
någon som kör debian på heltid dvs inget windows? någon mer än jag som tröttnat på windows? la in ett program igår som kraschade windows totalt så nu har man tröttnat på windows -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: xinitrc och

2012-08-11 Thread Anders Jackson
Men .Xsession fungerar i RH med. Sedan så har .xinitrc och .Xsession olika semantik, så det är skillnad. Läs dokumentationen och skript för att se exakt. Bara för att det verkar fungera, så behöver det inte vara rätt... Den 11 aug 2012 19:57 skrev Jacob Gaarde jgaa...@gmail.com: On Sat, 11 Aug

Re: windows

2012-08-11 Thread Anders Jackson
Den 12 aug 2012 00:34 skrev mattias m...@mjw.se: någon som kör debian på heltid dvs inget windows? Ja, sedan runt 2001 tror jag. någon mer än jag som tröttnat på windows? Ja. la in ett program igår som kraschade windows totalt så nu har man tröttnat på windows Finns många lösningar,

Re: IRC meeting online 19/8 20:00 #debian-gr/OFTC (was Re: θεμα λιστας)

2012-08-11 Thread Pantelis Koukousoulas
2012/8/10 Christos Ricudis ricu...@paiko.net: Κριμα. Μαζι με τους αλλους τουλαχιστον δυο θα ησασταν τουλαχιστον τρεις. Για study group και 3 να ήμασταν θα ήταν αρκετό, αν και από ότι φαίνεται θα είμαστε αρκετά παραπάνω. Δεν καταλαβαίνω το λόγο της ειρωνίας αυτή τη φορά. Λίγη καλή διάθεση πού

Re: IRC meeting online 19/8 20:00 #debian-gr/OFTC (was Re: θεμα λιστας)

2012-08-11 Thread Alexius Dionysius Diakogiannis
11 Αυγ 2012, 18:26, ο/η Pantelis Koukousoulas pkt...@gmail.com έγραψε: 2012/8/10 Christos Ricudis ricu...@paiko.net: Κριμα. Μαζι με τους αλλους τουλαχιστον δυο θα ησασταν τουλαχιστον τρεις. Για study group και 3 να ήμασταν θα ήταν αρκετό, αν και από ότι φαίνεται θα είμαστε αρκετά

Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?

2012-08-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 aug 12, 17:36:15, Camaleón wrote: Yes, and here we had a problem with communication: users were not aware about this issue until they've read it from external sources (blogs, magazines, etc...). I'm susbscribed to Debian News and Debian Announce (and now added debian-devel and

Re: Noniteractive Installation

2012-08-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 aug 12, 17:35:10, r...@aarden.us wrote: What do I need to search for to find out how to do this? Is there already a tool to do all of this? Keywords: preseed, fai Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:

Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread Greg Madden
On Friday 10 August 2012 1:17:16 am Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden: On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: Has

Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?

2012-08-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Am Samstag, 11. August 2012 schrieb Lili-Anne Girard: Do you really think that XFCE is tested in the same way that GNOME (and Dothe same goes for Razor-QT and KDE, for instance)? I mean, there are more Dothe GNOME/KDE users out there than XFCE/LXDE/Razor-QT and more users

Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 10:09 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Or start a petition and carry the results to there. Anything constructive, anything positive about it. Yes, thats more work than complaining here, but then … do you *really* want a change? Why shouldn't users who prefer GNOME3

Re: Microphone does not work on wheezy laptop.

2012-08-11 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Camaleón. Thank You for Your time and answer. You wrote: Then why the head command returned void? :-? May this is the reason? What do you mean? :-? That the head command returned void - therefore no microphone? (..) Actually, I never saw it. :o) - Only on

Re: [LAU] OnDemand-performance was(OT: klang)

2012-08-11 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 04:18:23PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 00:22 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 10:34:03AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: every email address in the mail is shown as is, so at least respect the privacy of others and remove email

Re: [LAU] OnDemand-performance was(OT: klang)

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 21:14 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 04:18:23PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 00:22 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 10:34:03AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: every email address in the mail is shown as is, so at

continuous reboots in a two nodes cluster with heartbeat and pacemaker.

2012-08-11 Thread Mauro
Hello, I'm experiencing continuous reboots of my two nodes in a heartbeat+pacemaker cluster. Reboots are random, one day they happen one other day not, sometime for 7 days they don't happen, sometimes they happen at night. They happen at random days and random time. Nodes are connected to a Cisco

Re: continuous reboots in a two nodes cluster with heartbeat and pacemaker.

2012-08-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/11/2012 8:59 AM, Mauro wrote: Hello, I'm experiencing continuous reboots of my two nodes in a heartbeat+pacemaker cluster. Reboots are random, one day they happen one other day not, sometime for 7 days they don't happen, sometimes they happen at night. They happen at random days and

Cisco switch issue -- after Debian updates had me stumped...

2012-08-11 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, I just wanted to report that I did some updates on my Debian VM (web/mail/dns server) which runs under Xen, also a Debian server and which I also installed updates. When I rebooted the Xen server I couldn't get to my VM from any machine on my network other than the Xen server itself. So

Bug#684293: Info received (Bug#684293: root cause of mount hang in installer [kernel bug])

2012-08-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this Bug report. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other interested parties for their attention; they will

Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
Hi I posted this message on the Gimp user list gimp-user-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable for me. Example: I use, hundreds of times per hour, the

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 20:21 +0200, maderios wrote: Hi I posted this message on the Gimp user list gimp-user-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8 would be a good tool but it is unusable

Re: Bug#684293: Info received (Bug#684293: root cause of mount hang in installer [kernel bug])

2012-08-11 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11.08.2012 21:18, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this Bug report. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your

Re: Bug#684293: Info received (Bug#684293: root cause of mount hang in installer [kernel bug])

2012-08-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-08-11 21:06 +0200, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 11.08.2012 21:18, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this Bug report. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your

Re: Bug#684293: root cause of mount hang in installer [kernel bug]

2012-08-11 Thread Christian PERRIER
reassign 684293 linux severity 684293 critical thanks Quoting Brian Potkin (claremont...@gmail.com): On Sat 11 Aug 2012 at 19:07:33 +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: Quoting M H (mh000...@yahoo.com): After some googling I found out that the root cause of the recent mount problems with

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 11/08/12 02:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 20:21 +0200, maderios wrote: Hi I posted this message on the Gimp user list gimp-user-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-August/date.html Hi This message is addressed to developers. New Gimp-2.8

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread maderios
On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same and we need to use export nowadays. Save and save as are different Save= save the same file (same name) after modifying this file Ex1: I open house.png, I change contrast,

Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread L V Gandhi
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote: On Friday 10 August 2012 1:17:16 am Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden: On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 22:35 +0200, maderios wrote: On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same and we need to use export nowadays. Save and save as are different They should be different, but they aren't, at least

Re: WTF? several anon_inode and /dev/null listings with lsof search

2012-08-11 Thread Yang Chengwei
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 05:37:23PM -0400, rabidblog...@safe-mail.net wrote: $ lsof | grep anon_inode anon_inode This is anonymous inode, for example, the process open a file on disk and then unlink it. After that there isn't a filesystem entry attached to the inode anymore so the others can't

ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi all, I am sort of in a hurry, need to send two small files. While the y might normally go via email, google will not let them through because they are program files. I have accounts at both yousend it, which I have not used i n a while, and send space which has an error on its upload

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:40 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: While they might normally go via email, google will not let them through because they are program files. Pack them into an archive protected by a password. Perhaps your provider don't allow this too. I suspect google wishes to know what

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
My provider is not the issue. You are suggesting that I should zip the files into an archive requiring a password? I am not sure how that would help with gmail, google told me on both attempts, one zipped, the other a .exe file that google would not me send the files because they were .exe

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-11 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:55:13AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:33:04AM -0400, Guy Gold wrote: GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made some people correspondingly upset. XFCE is fairly similar to GNOME 2, and may suit those people better. In

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:56 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: My provider is not the issue. I already noticed that you don't have a google account. You are suggesting that I should zip the files into an archive requiring a password? Yes, zip or what ever. I am not sure how that would help with

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 06:01 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:56 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: My provider is not the issue. I already noticed that you don't have a google account. You are suggesting that I should zip the files into an archive requiring a password?

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Chris
Change the extensions to txt Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net Date: Sat, Aug 11, 2012 10:56 pm Subject: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace? To: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org My

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:05 -0500, Chris wrote: Change the extensions to txt I suspect that they scan the files and that they'll notice that those files are no text files ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Debian desktop news

2012-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:58 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: So please lets stop the misinformation. GNOME3 eats much more resources. GNOME3 breaks every sane workflow for artist. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Yi, On 12.08.2012 06:40, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, I am sort of in a hurry, need to send two small files. While the y might normally go via email, google will not let them through because they are program files. I have accounts at both

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12.08.2012 06:47, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:40 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: While they might normally go via email, google will not let them through because they are program files. Pack them into an archive protected by a

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12.08.2012 06:56, Karen Lewellen wrote: My provider is not the issue. You are suggesting that I should zip the files into an archive requiring a password? I am not sure how that would help with gmail, google told me on both attempts, one

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12.08.2012 07:01, Ralf Mardorf wrote: If they ban a password protected archive, then perhaps they would protect openPGP too. If so, nobody should trust google. Use -a or --armor with gpg or armor in gpg.conf and all signatures and encrypted

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-11 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12.08.2012 07:11, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:05 -0500, Chris wrote: Change the extensions to txt I suspect that they scan the files and that they'll notice that those files are no text files ;). So OpenPGP files, which are

Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior

2012-08-11 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/11/2012 08:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The strange thing IMO is, that save and save as are completely the same and we need to use export nowadays. Save and save as are different Save= save the same file (same name)