Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Lars Noodén
On 5/2/13 11:40 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 16:22:55 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > >> On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: >>> On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: > > I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype s

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Lars Noodén
On 5/2/13 11:08 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 22:20:28 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: > >> On Thu, 2 May 2013, Doug wrote: >> >>> On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP p

What is libspeedchd2.............

2013-05-02 Thread Charlie
Debian wheezy and to upgrade chromium requires libspeedchd2, but it doesn't show up as a debian file? aptitude search libspeedchd2 Nothing shows? Just curious. Chromium seems to be working alright. TIA Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ***

Re: Planning for Disk Encryption

2013-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > [Please don't top post] > > On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 08:35:27AM -0700, Steven Rosenberg wrote: >> Tighten up on your backups. I've been running encrypted partitions (and > > Umm, I've heard of the expression "tighten up on your spending", To

Re: Planning for Disk Encryption

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post] On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 08:35:27AM -0700, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > Tighten up on your backups. I've been running encrypted partitions (and Umm, I've heard of the expression "tighten up on your spending", and "tighten up on your drinking" which means "ease up/slow down". I

Re: Wget difference

2013-05-02 Thread Jude DaShiell
Forgot to mention, once wc -l wget-log or wc -l wget-log.x is issued, hitting up arrow followed by enter gets you further line counts of wget-log for monitoring progress of file download. On Thu, 2 May 2013, francis picabia wrote: > I often download packages to servers using wget and the "Direc

Re: Wget difference

2013-05-02 Thread Jude DaShiell
I suspect wget debian version has some kind of problem it doesn't happen on slackware current either. Also, you may find using wget with the -b switch makes life better. When wget-log or wget-log.x is created after issuing that command with the url after the -b, you can monitor growth of the

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 13:46:50 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > We are in agreement. If you want to get in touch with somone on the > > Skype network then the Skype software has to be used somewhere along the > > line. > > As far as I can tell yo

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 12:31:01 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > > > >> On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: > >> > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhăes wrote: > >> > > >> >> Since y

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 16:22:55 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > >> On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: >> > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: >> > >> >> On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I did. How does it allow someone not run

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 16:22:55 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > > > >> On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: > >>> > >>> I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to > >>> conect with the Sk

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Davies
Andr? Nunes Batista wrote: > There are many voip softwares available and ekiga may be the most > prominent. Although not the ideal from a free software perspective, you > can also use a plugin to access skype network through pidgin. The Pidgin plugin uses the Skype application to do this, though.

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread staticsafe
On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > >> On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: >>> >>> I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to >>> conect with the Skype network? >>> >>> >> >> It doesn't. The Skype protocol is proprietar

Keyboard layout forces use of Fn function

2013-05-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I've got an Asus EEE PC 1000 HE which works great for many years. Some months ago, I installed Debian Lenny on it (standard install, nothing special for Asus EEE PC). Not everything worked out of the box, but most did. The EEE PC keyboard worke

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: > > > > I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to > > conect with the Skype network? > > > > > > It doesn't. The Skype protocol is proprietary. Really! :) So XMPP isn't in th

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 21:48:11 +0200, Slavko wrote: > Dňa 02.05.2013 21:24 Brian wrote / napísal(a): > > I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to > > conect with the Skype network? > > Please, read carefully all the previous posts. The explanation is there. I did. A

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 22:20:28 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: > On Thu, 2 May 2013, Doug wrote: > > > On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: > > > There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is > > > quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each >

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Slavko
Dňa 02.05.2013 21:24 Brian wrote / napísal(a): > I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to > conect with the Skype network? Please, read carefully all the previous posts. The explanation is there. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: Ope

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > >> On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: >> > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhăes wrote: >> > >> >> Since you didn't clarify what you mean by "alternative to Skype", i'll >> >> go w

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread staticsafe
On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > >> On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: >>> Since you didn't clarify what you mean by "alternative to Skype", i'll go with XMPP. >>> >>>

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: > On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > > >> Since you didn't clarify what you mean by "alternative to Skype", i'll > >> go with XMPP. > > > > It is the OP who needs to clarify w

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Doug wrote: > On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: >> >> There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is >> quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each >> other, not locked into a single company like Skype.

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Lars Nooden
On Thu, 2 May 2013, Doug wrote: > On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: > > There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is > > quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each > > other, not locked into a single company like Skype. > > > > Rega

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Doug
On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other, not locked into a single company like Skype. Regards, /Lars But can they talk to folks using SKYPE?

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread staticsafe
On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > >> Since you didn't clarify what you mean by "alternative to Skype", i'll >> go with XMPP. > > It is the OP who needs to clarify what he wants. My view is clear: there > is no alternative to Skype in t

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > Since you didn't clarify what you mean by "alternative to Skype", i'll > go with XMPP. It is the OP who needs to clarify what he wants. My view is clear: there is no alternative to Skype in the software field. It reigns supreme. If you

Problem with Konsole

2013-05-02 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
64 bit Debian Testing/XFCE. When I open a console an untitled X File Window opens. This just started today and I don't have a clue as to what is going on. It is rather annoying because I don't get a prompt in the console until I close this unwanted app. Does anyone have an idea as to what is go

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Since you didn't clarify what you mean by "alternative to Skype", i'll go with XMPP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADqA9ua8CdfY436y=4mo5m46opymn4zk

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:29:15 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: > There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is > quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each > other, not locked into a single company like Skype. All these SIP phones may very well

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 18:24:02 +0200, Alex Padoly wrote: > I would like to know if there is a light and reliable alternative to Skype. > Thanks you for your answers and your experiences. You are asking about an alternative to the Skype software which will allow you to communicate with other peopl

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread André Nunes Batista
There are many voip softwares available and ekiga may be the most prominent. Although not the ideal from a free software perspective, you can also use a plugin to access skype network through pidgin. -- -- André Nunes Batista --- Begin Message --- Hi, I would like to know if there is a light

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Lars Nooden
There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other, not locked into a single company like Skype. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Alex Padoly
Hi, I would like to know if there is a light and reliable alternative to Skype. Thanks you for your answers and your experiences. Regards. Alex

Re: Planning for Disk Encryption

2013-05-02 Thread Steven Rosenberg
Tighten up on your backups. I've been running encrypted partitions (and full disk encryption) for years, and I haven't had a disk problem. Had plenty of other problems (just had a motherboard go bad), and I'm glad I had the backups. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.

Re: Wget difference

2013-05-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-05-02 15:34 +0200, francis picabia wrote: > I often download packages to servers using wget and the "Direct Link" > feature on the sourceforge projects. > > For example, today, I downloaded scamp: > > $ wget > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/scamp/scamp/scamp-5.6/scamp-5.6.tar.gz?

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-05-02 Thread francis picabia
Having a long uptime is fine if you run a system not on the Internet. If you are on the Internet, then a long uptime is like being proud of not having read a newspaper for that many days. Uptime used to be significant over a decade ago, when some systems were recommended to reboot periodically.

Can't finish the installation of WaveMaker

2013-05-02 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi, On my Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) operating system I have downloaded and installed the wavemaker_6.5.3.Release_amd64.deb package. I have problem starting Wave Maker as root. However, I must to start it as root to finish the installation - or configuration. When in xterm I run the followin

Wget difference

2013-05-02 Thread francis picabia
I often download packages to servers using wget and the "Direct Link" feature on the sourceforge projects. For example, today, I downloaded scamp: $ wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/scamp/scamp/scamp-5.6/scamp-5.6.tar.gz?r=&ts=1367500908&use_mirror=superb-dca3 On Redhat, this produc

Re: Wheezy issue with broadcom 5720 nic on new dell PowerEdge R720

2013-05-02 Thread Lukáš Zíta
After some more tests, I have discovered, that those missing patches are part of BQL backport to 3.2 kernel (therefore their absence in upstream 3.2). In the end it turned out, that the NIC is buggy even with BQL disabled. Strange thing is, that the bug only appears on newer types of Dell servers,

Re: Debian-Linux ally of workstations

2013-05-02 Thread Teemu Ikonen
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > I was looking for some sort of i-device that could allow whifi, directed > to reading-downloading literature and be capable of talking - via ssh/scp - > with my workstations on a local network (not necessarily wireless). You are probably

Re: Debian-Linux ally of workstations

2013-05-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 01 mai 13, 08:38:51, Francesco Pietra wrote: > I was looking for some sort of i-device that could allow whifi, directed to > reading-downloading literature and be capable of talking - via ssh/scp - > with my workstations on a local network (not necessarily wireless). Not sure what you mean

Re: Which imap server can I use

2013-05-02 Thread Mérof 42
Thanks you all for your response, and sorry for my late response, usually it take a lot of time to have an answers but on this mailing list it's really fast :) I dont have any specific requirements, I install this imap server only for myself. I'll start to read some tutorial about dovecot, it see

Re: Planning for Disk Encryption

2013-05-02 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 05/01/13 06:23, T o n g wrote: My understanding/impression is that with Full Disk Encryption, even a single bad sector will have a much larger impact than itself and might ruin the whole disk. ... So, what would you plan for normal home users on disk failure for Disk Encryption? How to cope wit