Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
(Mind you, I'm pretty much in agreement with much that others have said in this thread. You're looking for something that is not where you're looking for it. But, ...) On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM, guojzzz wrote: > 在 2013年8月28日星期三UTC+8上午9时00分01秒,Joel Rees写道: >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:50 AM

gnome-session-fallback upgrade problem on sid

2013-08-27 Thread Artifex Maximus
Hello, I would like to upgrade my sid system and on dist-upgrade get the following error: "Calculating upgrade... Failed The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-session-fallback : Depends: metacity (>= 2.30) but it is not going to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/27/2013 9:36 PM, guojzzz wrote: 在 2013年8月28日星期三UTC+8上午9时00分01秒,Joel Rees写道: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:50 AM, guojzzz wrote: [...] I know some books of OS, as Linus mentioned in his biography book. The reason why I choose kernel code is that I think it strict and compact, it's bu

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread guojzzz
在 2013年8月28日星期三UTC+8上午9时00分01秒,Joel Rees写道: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:50 AM, guojzzz wrote: > > > [...] > > > I know some books of OS, as Linus mentioned in his biography book. The > > reason why > > > I choose kernel code is that I think it strict and compact, it's bug-less, > > it has a

Re: dhcpd runs as root

2013-08-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:13:43PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 8/27/2013 5:26 PM, Andrew Wood wrote: > >Why does dhcpd (installed from isc-dhcp-server package in WHeezy) run as > >root not a less privileged user? > > > >The only reference to this subject I can find is this bug report first > >

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:50 AM, guojzzz wrote: > [...] > I know some books of OS, as Linus mentioned in his biography book. The reason > why > I choose kernel code is that I think it strict and compact, it's bug-less, > it has a code style guide. > But other softwares' codes may not. > > As

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
n Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 21:16 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> > [...] > In English, [...] Debian is an international distribution. I rarely see canonical English on t

Re: dhcpd runs as root

2013-08-27 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/27/2013 5:26 PM, Andrew Wood wrote: Why does dhcpd (installed from isc-dhcp-server package in WHeezy) run as root not a less privileged user? The only reference to this subject I can find is this bug report first filed in 2005 and seemingly still not fixed... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/

Re: can't resume after hibernate

2013-08-27 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 01:10:23PM -0700, John Akintayo wrote: > i am use debian wheezy with kde desktop environment > i Had a problem hibernating but after installing the hibernation app from > repos i was able to hibernate successfully. but now i have problem resuming > after hibernation. > Whe

Re: Function Keys Not Working After Wheezy Netinstall

2013-08-27 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:43:11PM +0300, Rares Aioanei wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/27/2013 09:16 PM, Thomas H. George wrote: > > Many problems with Netinstall of Wheezy on Aug 24 from cd > > downloaded Aug 24 > > > > Using the function keys F1 through F6 re

Re: Postmaster and Abuse

2013-08-27 Thread Fred White
Many Thanks, guys for the various feedback from the list. My issue was very easy to be solved. The admin panel for my debian server is the ispCP Omega and its from within that panel postmaster@ and abuse@ are setup. They are automatically created on each domain created and stay hidden. I wi

Re: Problems with nVidia proprietary driver

2013-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 27 August 2013 22:51:46 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 27.08.2013 10:04, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > On Monday 26 August 2013 23:24:45 Greg Madden wrote: > >> > (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" > >> > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so > >> > (II) Module nvidia: ve

tools.rb:328:in `require': cannot load such file -- JSON (LoadError)

2013-08-27 Thread Noah
Hi there, I am trying to get dashing to work well. Please let me know what system details will be helpful to post. root@ce-lab1:~/sweet_dashboard_project# ruby -v ruby 1.9.3p194 (2012-04-20 revision 35410) [x86_64-linux] here is my Gemfile: :~/sweet_dashboard_project# cat Gemfile sour

Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?

2013-08-27 Thread Sharon Kimble
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:19:39 +0200 Claudius Hubig wrote: > Dear Sharon, > > Sharon Kimble wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:46:57 +0200 > > Claudius Hubig wrote: > > > Sharon Kimble wrote: > > > > music_directory "/home/boudiccas/Music" > > > > target directory"/home/boudiccas/M

Re: Problems with nVidia proprietary driver

2013-08-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.08.2013 10:04, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Monday 26 August 2013 23:24:45 Greg Madden wrote: > (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so > (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" >   compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 >   Module clas

Re: Permissions

2013-08-27 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
On 08/27/2013 03:31 PM, Steven Post wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 13:43 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - I apologize for this "needle in a haystack" but... This was originally posted on the PHP list, but has changed into a Debian question... Tried to run the program, that we have be

dhcpd runs as root

2013-08-27 Thread Andrew Wood
Why does dhcpd (installed from isc-dhcp-server package in WHeezy) run as root not a less privileged user? The only reference to this subject I can find is this bug report first filed in 2005 and seemingly still not fixed... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=308832 Surely theres

losetup at boot

2013-08-27 Thread Erick Ocrospoma
Hi, I'm trying to do the same as here http://askubuntu.com/questions/54970/how-to-set-up-a-loop-device-at-boot-timewith no success, basically I've setup a block device attached to a loop device, what I need is to load this one at boot. Not really sure if Upstart is fully supported, AFAIK there's

Re: Function Keys Not Working After Wheezy Netinstall

2013-08-27 Thread Rares Aioanei
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/27/2013 09:16 PM, Thomas H. George wrote: > Many problems with Netinstall of Wheezy on Aug 24 from cd > downloaded Aug 24 > > Using the function keys F1 through F6 results in a blank screen > then after a delay No Signal. > > F7 returns to a wo

can't resume after hibernate

2013-08-27 Thread John Akintayo
i am use debian wheezy with kde desktop environment i Had a problem hibernating but after installing the hibernation app from repos i was able to hibernate successfully. but now i have problem resuming after hibernation. When i bootup after hibernating, i get this= resume: libgcrypt version: 1.5.

Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?

2013-08-27 Thread Claudius Hubig
Dear Sharon, Sharon Kimble wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:46:57 +0200 > Claudius Hubig wrote: > > Sharon Kimble wrote: > > > music_directory "/home/boudiccas/Music" > > > target directory "/home/boudiccas/Music/beeb-radio" > > > > > > and when I ran 'ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3 > > > > ~/.mp

Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?

2013-08-27 Thread Sharon Kimble
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:46:57 +0200 Claudius Hubig wrote: > Dear Sharon, > > Sharon Kimble wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:40:35 +0200 > > Claudius Hubig wrote: > > > This is only a guess: > > > > > > ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3 > > > > > > will only print the actual filename, not the full path to t

Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?

2013-08-27 Thread Claudius Hubig
Dear Sharon, Sharon Kimble wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:40:35 +0200 > Claudius Hubig wrote: > > This is only a guess: > > > > ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3 > > > > will only print the actual filename, not the full path to the file. > > However, MPD playlists have the following format: > > > > $ cat /

Re: Permissions

2013-08-27 Thread Steven Post
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 13:43 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > Dear List - > > I apologize for this "needle in a haystack" but... > > This was originally posted on the PHP list, but has changed into a > Debian question... > > Tried to run the program, that we have been discussing,{on the PHP list

Re: Permissions

2013-08-27 Thread 32bitfl...@posteo.de
Hi Ethan, you wrote about a 403 error, so I assume you invoke the script by calling a webserver via browser. In that case the webserver needs the permission to access /var/www and to read StoreInventory.php. By default the webserver runs as user/group www-data (it can be changed in the webservers

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/27/2013 12:50 PM, guojzzz wrote: 在 2013年8月27日星期二UTC+8下午10时10分02秒,Jerry Stuckle写道: On 8/27/2013 9:49 AM, guojzzz wrote: I believe what you said. As people know, Linux Kernel is complex and complicated, it's hard to read, especially for newbies like me. And I don't think I'm goi

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.08.2013 19:03, Conrad Nelson a écrit : On 08/27/2013 12:00 PM, Conrad Nelson wrote: On 08/27/2013 10:22 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 27.08.2013 17:07, Conrad Nelson a écrit : Debian's other problem is this need to split packages. A lot. Debian likes to brag about having

Function Keys Not Working After Wheezy Netinstall

2013-08-27 Thread Thomas H. George
Many problems with Netinstall of Wheezy on Aug 24 from cd downloaded Aug 24 Using the function keys F1 through F6 results in a blank screen then after a delay No Signal. F7 returns to a working screen of limited capabilities - on startup this screen opened with a message regarding a gdm failure.

Re: xfce4 and CD/DVD

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 20:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 17:55 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > Why not windows? > > I at least have to use XP as guest in VBox on a Linux install :D or I > couldn't use an iPad I one and the iPad is very useful for me to avoid

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 12:03 -0500, Conrad Nelson wrote: > On 08/27/2013 12:00 PM, Conrad Nelson wrote: > > On 08/27/2013 10:22 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > >> Le 27.08.2013 17:07, Conrad Nelson a écrit : > >>> Debian's other problem is this need to split packages. A lot. Debian > >>>

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 12:00 -0500, Conrad Nelson wrote: > I don't think I can explain the splitting thing that bugs me well > enough. Just that I think that Debian's claims to have a HUGE > repository are maybe a little dishonest when if they actually reduced > all their packages to what they are

Re: xfce4 and CD/DVD

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 17:55 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Why not windows? I at least have to use XP as guest in VBox on a Linux install :D or I couldn't use an iPad I one and the iPad is very useful for me to avoid to buy ink for the printer and I can write a shell script for my Linux PC without

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 17:22 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Can you please provide package's names which should be united? jackd packages shouldn't be split, joint the jack devel mailing list archive, unfortunately you need to be subscribed for doing this. But again, even that packa

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 10:07 -0500, Conrad Nelson wrote: > On 08/27/2013 07:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:55 +, Curt wrote: > >> What a traitor (or not)! > > "arch traitor" ;) since I prefer Arch Linux and my explanations might be > > a "traitor's kiss", since I referre

Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?

2013-08-27 Thread Sharon Kimble
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:40:35 +0200 Claudius Hubig wrote: > Dear Sharon, > > Sharon Kimble wrote: > > how can I create a .m3u playlist file with .mp3 and .m4a files in it > > please? > > > > I tried this but the end-result is non-playable 'ls -w 1 *.m4a > > *.mp3> ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u

Permissions

2013-08-27 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
Dear List - I apologize for this "needle in a haystack" but... This was originally posted on the PHP list, but has changed into a Debian question... Tried to run the program, that we have been discussing,{on the PHP list} and received a 403 error. rosenberg:/var/www# ls -la StoreInventory

Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?

2013-08-27 Thread Claudius Hubig
Dear Sharon, Sharon Kimble wrote: > how can I create a .m3u playlist file with .mp3 and .m4a files in it > please? > > I tried this but the end-result is non-playable 'ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3> > ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u' . > > It lists all the files with the correct extensions but when I try

How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?

2013-08-27 Thread Sharon Kimble
how can I create a .m3u playlist file with .mp3 and .m4a files in it please? I tried this but the end-result is non-playable 'ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3> ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u' . It lists all the files with the correct extensions but when I try to load it in MPD, it says that the song is non-p

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 08/27/2013 12:00 PM, Conrad Nelson wrote: On 08/27/2013 10:22 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 27.08.2013 17:07, Conrad Nelson a écrit : Debian's other problem is this need to split packages. A lot. Debian likes to brag about having a HUGE repository, but when you actually look at

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 08/27/2013 10:22 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 27.08.2013 17:07, Conrad Nelson a écrit : Debian's other problem is this need to split packages. A lot. Debian likes to brag about having a HUGE repository, but when you actually look at it, it's actually an AVERAGE repository made

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread guojzzz
在 2013年8月27日星期二UTC+8下午10时10分02秒,Jerry Stuckle写道: > On 8/27/2013 9:49 AM, guojzzz wrote: > > > > > > I believe what you said. As people know, Linux Kernel is complex and > > complicated, it's hard to read, especially for newbies like me. > > > > > > And I don't think I'm going to debug codes or

Trouble with .inputrc (part of readline)

2013-08-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Running (recently upgraded from wheezy) 'Testing'. I see something happen when using ~/.inputrc that I don't now how to track down. In console (noX) mode the things I have in ~/.inputrc work as expected. And example might be set keymap emacs-meta f: "find -iname '* *'" So pressing Atl

Annonces Maison/Appartement en Vente

2013-08-27 Thread AAIC IMMO
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Re: xfce4 and CD/DVD

2013-08-27 Thread François Patte
Le 27/08/2013 00:11, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 23:14 +0200, François Patte wrote: >> Le 26/08/2013 20:15, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : >>> Thunar > Edit > Preferences... > Advanced > Volume Management > >>> Configure > Storage >> >> This was done when I sent my first message... Anywa

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.08.2013 17:07, Conrad Nelson a écrit : Debian's other problem is this need to split packages. A lot. Debian likes to brag about having a HUGE repository, but when you actually look at it, it's actually an AVERAGE repository made "bigger" by the fact that when you install software, despite t

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:07:03AM -0500, Conrad Nelson wrote: > Debian's obsession with free software conformity is, indeed, a > weakness. Before you blast me, I'm just going to point out I > subscribe more to the Torvalds school of thought on open source, NOT > the Stallman school. Richard Stall

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 08/27/2013 07:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:55 +, Curt wrote: What a traitor (or not)! "arch traitor" ;) since I prefer Arch Linux and my explanations might be a "traitor's kiss", since I referred to the KISS principle. I am still a big Arch fan myself. But after

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/27/2013 9:49 AM, guojzzz wrote: I believe what you said. As people know, Linux Kernel is complex and complicated, it's hard to read, especially for newbies like me. And I don't think I'm going to debug codes or hack it, I even am not capable of doing so. I can play with Python, Common Li

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread guojzzz
在 2013年8月27日星期二UTC+8下午8时40分02秒,berenge...@neutralite.org写道: > Le 25.08.2013 05:50, guojzzz a écrit : > > > 在 2013年8月25日星期日UTC+8上午11时20分01秒,Zenaan Harkness写道: > > >> On Aug 24, 2013 7:40 PM, "guojzzz" wrote: > > >> > > >> > Recently I have a interest in Linux Kernel, but I don't think my C > >

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 14:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 14:02 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Is there is any distro with binaries from "trunk/master" ( depending on > > if you prefer svn or git ;) ) up to date? It would be quite strange, but > > sounds nice

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.08.2013 14:47, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 14:02 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Is there is any distro with binaries from "trunk/master" ( depending on if you prefer svn or git ;) ) up to date? It would be quite strange, but sounds nice. Arch Linux comes w

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A "hypocrite" is somebody who claims to be somebody or to believe something, but in reality this person is somebody else or does believe something completely different. I'm only willing to explain, why "Debian" or what ever distro with a huge userbase, isn't "superior" over other distros, not by em

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 14:02 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Is there is any distro with binaries from "trunk/master" ( depending on > if you prefer svn or git ;) ) up to date? It would be quite strange, but > sounds nice. Arch Linux comes with binaries for the current stable releas

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/27/13, Curt wrote: > On 2013-08-27, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> >> Your general, non-direct reply to my questions to you, is by default >> consent to my implied positions. > > I can't parse that. Sorry. I shall try again: I am saying Ralph ignored my questions to him (and ignored the things I

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 25.08.2013 05:50, guojzzz a écrit : 在 2013年8月25日星期日UTC+8上午11时20分01秒,Zenaan Harkness写道: On Aug 24, 2013 7:40 PM, "guojzzz" wrote: > Recently I have a interest in Linux Kernel, but I don't think my C > programming skill is able to handle it, I'm just going to read the code in > Github.

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:55 +, Curt wrote: > What a traitor (or not)! "arch traitor" ;) since I prefer Arch Linux and my explanations might be a "traitor's kiss", since I referred to the KISS principle. You can read on many mailing lists that people often try to explain something with the arg

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 21:16 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > You're free to consider the distros you mentioned as the best distros, >> > but by doing this you miss a basic approach of FLOSS. There isn't such >> > as a commerci

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.08.2013 13:29, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 21:16 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > You're free to consider the distros you mentioned as the best distros, > but by doing this you miss a basic approach of FLOSS. There isn't such > as a comme

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Curt
On 2013-08-27, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Your general, non-direct reply to my questions to you, is by default > consent to my implied positions. I can't parse that. > I _am_ still interested to know if you consider yourself to be a > compulsive relationship-communication boundary tester? I thi

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 13:30 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 27.08.2013 13:12, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > > Some of those distros are much older than Debian is. > > Well, sorry to go inside your discussion ( which is more fun than > anything else, for me ), but that point surpris

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.08.2013 13:12, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : Some of those distros are much older than Debian is. Well, sorry to go inside your discussion ( which is more fun than anything else, for me ), but that point surprised me. I am not a linux distro expert, and only really used Debian ( tried Ubuntu

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 21:16 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You're free to consider the distros you mentioned as the best distros, > > but by doing this you miss a basic approach of FLOSS. There isn't such > > as a commercial competition, or radical political mo

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > You're free to consider the distros you mentioned as the best distros, > but by doing this you miss a basic approach of FLOSS. There isn't such > as a commercial competition, or radical political model. What you say does not make sense. You are free to ignore mo

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: Since you have that much issues with compiling software, consider that some distros e.g. have a huge userbase, because not less users need the current stable kernel release, with the current stable modules for new hardware. Is the huge userbase from distros you consider as less good, a communit

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Zenaan, if everybody would use Debian for development, than even the Debian community would have to suffer from slower progress. To develop, to report bugs to upstream etc. you often need an Linux userspace environment that is up-to-date, but even experimental isn't up-to-date. The policy that Debi

mouse wheel spurious events (too sensitive) with evdev

2013-08-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
The wheel of my new mouse is very sensitive: when I click on it (middle button), it also often generates a scroll event (button 4 or 5). This is also sometimes the case when I'm just touching the wheel. How can I prevent these events from occurring? For instance, the driver could start generating

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
:) Hi Ralph, hope you are well. Your general, non-direct reply to my questions to you, is by default consent to my implied positions. I _am_ still interested to know if you consider yourself to be a compulsive relationship-communication boundary tester? I defend your right to free speech. Some

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Phi Debian
I am not religious about distros, I said I got many guest running on the server, this is precisly to have a whole sort of distro running. Yet the server got to have one, and for historical reasons it happen it is debian. Now this gnome3 comes to the dance, and break the tiny bits of basic thing I

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I only want to point out that that there isn't such as the good, the bad and the ugly distro. No distro of the known distros with a huge user base is better or worse than another distro. I can mention advantages and drawbacks for most of them, IOW for all of them I used/I'm using. When I read on a

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/27/13, Phi Debian wrote: > Hi Zeenan, Hi Phi, *please*, reply only to the list. I do not need multiple copies of your email. > I have a permenant vnc session I don't really know what you mean by "permenant vnc session". > on the server (trusted network) and I > do most of the tiny things

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/27/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 18:07 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> For server, perhaps simpler XFCE4? > > Xfce or LXDE are a good idea. > >> Or add custom repo and install Cinnamon or MATE desktops > > Have you ever tested Cinnamon and MATE? No. Wanted to. > Nobody sh

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:56 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/05/08/2038243/ubuntu-developing-its-own-package-format-installer > > Wow, thank you for the link. Than Ubuntu in the future will cause

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:56 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/05/08/2038243/ubuntu-developing-its-own-package-format-installer Wow, thank you for the link. Than Ubuntu in the future will cause much more issues, when you talk to upstream, than they already

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 10:40 +0200, Phi Debian wrote: > What I liked with old gnome, was the custom can be done without > learning anything, drag drop panels, click on color that suite you, > focus follow mouse was trivial, etc If it was only this, than you'll be more satisfied with using Xfce4

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 2013-08-27 11:07, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Hi All, > >I use debian and gnome since well the begining... >I have it on many nodes, but specially on some server, where many guests >run. >I was on squeeze sine the begining of squeeze, and decided to try wheezy. Ubuntu is Debian snapshot, so much o

Re: HDMI output

2013-08-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 10 aug 13, 23:57:50, Seth Bauer wrote: > > Dear Andrei, > >Hi... I'm also having a similar problem. I'm using wheezy/kde 4 also on > a HP dv6 laptop. When plugged into my TV via HDMI, the computer recognizes > it as a monitor but there is no video on the TV. Where should I send my >

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Phi Debian
Hi Zeenan, Yes I did this move an the 'less used' server, not really crash'n'burn but still ok to try yhr move there first. Yes I used gnome-classic-2D I used minimalist gnome setup, only 1 main-panel on the right, no workspace, no other pannel I have a permenant vnc session on the server (trus

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 18:07 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > For server, perhaps simpler XFCE4? Xfce or LXDE are a good idea. > Or add custom repo and install Cinnamon or MATE desktops Have you ever tested Cinnamon and MATE? Nobody should consider that one of them can be called a quasi continued

Re: Debian live build

2013-08-27 Thread antispammbox-debian
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Re: Building initrd for install Wheezy on pc without PAE

2013-08-27 Thread antispammbox-debian
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Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/27/13, Phi Debian wrote: > Hi All, > > I use debian and gnome since well the begining... > I have it on many nodes, but specially on some server, where many guests > run. > I was on squeeze sine the begining of squeeze, and decided to try wheezy. Ubuntu is Debian snapshot, so much of muchne

Re: Problems with nVidia proprietary driver

2013-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 26 August 2013 23:24:45 Greg Madden wrote: > > (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" > > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so > > (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" > >   compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 > >   Module class: X.Org Video Driver > > (EE) NVIDIA

Re: Postmaster and Abuse

2013-08-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/27/2013 1:25 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:16:10AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> It's often considered bad form to put mail aliases such as these in >> /etc/aliases which is traditionally used to manipulate UNIX system >> account mail routing. It's better to put them