Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: In some countries, owning a car does not authorize you to tinker with it. I did not known that. Not even changing a wheel or repairing motor, direction? Usually in those countries, e.g. in Germany, you are allowed to

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: In some countries, owning a car does not authorize you to tinker with it. I did not known that. Not even changing a wheel or repairing motor, direction?

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 13.10.2013 20:41, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:11:01AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: If you own a system you control it and can do whatever you like with it. You can give yourself whatever label you want (sysadmin, superuser, top dog etc) - it matters

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 13.10.2013 23:23, Bob Proulx a écrit : Mark Allums wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't nag about endless lines, ... It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the list, when you're

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 18:10, msl09 a écrit : Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt from the debian packages website. That's why I do not

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 13.10.2013 04:18, green a écrit : Tom H wrote at 2013-10-12 18:40 -0500: I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC. I use aptitude, and find it to be *more* useful than apt because of its *interactive* dependency resolver. Probably if people have trouble with

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 15:21 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Or simply do not use HTML. Endless line, for Evolution available by selecting Preformatted: This has nothing to do with HTML, I can format my emails using plain text too, HTML is completely unneeded to do this. Automatic

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 15:27 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: But, it definitely is a user's... no, sorry, a root's error. A root should not act or think like a user. (damn, outside of linux context, that phrase really means nothing...) :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.10.2013 10:37, Joe a écrit : On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:53:50 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:19:18PM +0100, Joe wrote: though most include routers and other useless stuff. ..when it is normally customary to refer to them as

Re: Problems creating preseed.cfg - syntax?

2013-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Bob Proulx wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm having several problems getting desired results from preseeding. My Environment: No internet/LAN Install media Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 Wheezy - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20130615-21:54 preseed.cfg on USB stick You and Brian and I had

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 13.10.2013 19:44, Frank McCormick a écrit : On 13/10/13 01:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote: Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it was going

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.10.2013 15:29, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 15:21 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Or simply do not use HTML. Endless line, for Evolution available by selecting Preformatted: This has nothing to do with HTML, I can format my emails using plain text too, HTML

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not computing stuff, at all. They are simply here to transform numeric signals to analogical ones, and vice versa. Well and just to continue the level of pedanticism we've gotten to - there

pcmanfm mount troubles in jessie

2013-10-14 Thread Main Backup
Hi! I have some issues with pcmanfm mount external drives. It happens when I start pcmanfm from user. Ok. So, I have no gnome, kde, systemd or anything like that installed on my computer. I use openbox and pcmanfm for mounting all external drives. All was well on wheezy and squeeze. I've use

Re: mediatomb install fails on wheezy

2013-10-14 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013, Chris Bannister wrote: hi Chris, Before replying, I waited until the release of the Wheezy version 7.2, but this changed nothing about mediatomb 1/ what means fixed mediatomb/0.12.1-5 ? The bug no longer exists in version 0.12.1-5 I understood that, but my hidden

Re: Problems creating preseed.cfg - syntax?

2013-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Curt wrote: On 2013-10-14, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: There is evidently an additional package required to use all the features of debconf-get-selections. After installing debconf-utils my command bombed with an error message from a perl script. It would have been informative

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-14 Thread Marcelo Lacerda
On 10/13/2013 02:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 06:04 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 02:56:13AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 19:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC. Likely,

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-14 Thread Frank McCormick
On 14/10/13 09:52 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 13.10.2013 19:44, Frank McCormick a écrit : On 13/10/13 01:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote: Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it suggested me to

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-14 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-14, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Now that you say it, it's obvious. I was simply thinking that HTML was the source of the problem, because I only noticed such problems with HTML mails. Was a stupid reasoning. I can see how one might think

Re: mediatomb install fails on wheezy

2013-10-14 Thread Jochen Spieker
Pierre Frenkiel: At last, mediatomb 0.12-5 is now provided by Jessie (don't know since how long) I suppose it means that it will arrive in Wheezy some day.. No. Packages don't get moved from testing to stable. Ever.

Re: mediatomb install fails on wheezy

2013-10-14 Thread Jochen Spieker
Pierre Frenkiel: Trying to install mediatomb on wheezy, I got: serious bugs of mediatomb (- 0.12.1-4) marked as done in some version #677959 - mediatomb: fails to build against current version of libavformat (Fixed: mediatomb/0.12.1-5) I have several question about this error:

Linux Professional Institute Certification (Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude))

2013-10-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 13.10.2013 14:41, Joel Rees a écrit : On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit : are you root? It does only means you own the system. Not that you

Re: mediatomb install fails on wheezy

2013-10-14 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Jochen Spieker wrote: Packages in stable only receive updates for security reasons or in order to fix other serious bugs. You might be interested in backports: I would imagine that a bug which prevents a package to be installed can be called serious !! I have

Re: Problems creating preseed.cfg - syntax?

2013-10-14 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-14, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Sorry. I had been focused on solving my immediate problem immediately - which I did. I've time set aside this afternoon to reproduce the problem and create bug report(s) as required. I'll preserve the error messages as part of

Re: mediatomb install fails on wheezy

2013-10-14 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Jochen Spieker wrote: serious bugs of mediatomb (- 0.12.1-4) marked as done in some version #677959 - mediatomb: fails to build against current version of libavformat (Fixed: mediatomb/0.12.1-5) I have several question about this error: By the way: the above is

Re: linux debian

2013-10-14 Thread darkestkhan
It is actually quite easy - edit your /etc/apt/sources.list so that it contains line (you have to be root to do so (or use sudo)): deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free # [ftp address may be slightly different depending on your preferences] And then you just: $ sudo aptitude

Re: Linux Professional Institute Certification (Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude))

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.10.2013 17:01, Joel Rees a écrit : I'm pretty sure the LPI site is translated into French, too. Yep. I have absolutely no problem with English... at least when it is written :) my speaking is probably ugly, since I can rarely practice it. Check it out:

Re: linux debian

2013-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 16:05 +, darkestkhan wrote: $ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree Is aptitude installed by default? If not, aptitude can be replaced with apt-get. It might be helpful to install Synaptic first and then to use Synaptic in the future, to

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.10.2013 16:38, Frank McCormick a écrit : On 14/10/13 09:52 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 13.10.2013 19:44, Frank McCormick a écrit : On 13/10/13 01:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote: Oh I have fond memories of aptitude

Re: mediatomb install fails on wheezy

2013-10-14 Thread Jochen Spieker
Pierre Frenkiel: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Jochen Spieker wrote: serious bugs of mediatomb (- 0.12.1-4) marked as done in some version #677959 - mediatomb: fails to build against current version of libavformat (Fixed: mediatomb/0.12.1-5) I have several question about this error: By

Re: who could take the time to figure out how to contact linux ? so complicated !

2013-10-14 Thread Catherine Gramze
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:19:15 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Please, lets merge the two threads into one? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/10/msg00703.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/10/msg00705.html Perhaps the OP and anybody else could continue

Re: who could take the time to figure out how to contact linux ? so complicated !

2013-10-14 Thread Konrad Neitzel
Hi! On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 13:57 -0500, Catherine Gramze wrote: We need to know first if Larry has a successfully running Debian installation, and if so, is it Wheezy, Jessie, Squeeze or Sid? I think Larry needs some help to modify his sources.list file to include the non-free repository. I

apt-get upgrade (security packages)

2013-10-14 Thread Pol Hallen
Howdy :-) I've a production server particularly patched. I prefer install only security packages but keep others packages to same version. Should I've some problems if keep only: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list or better pin every

Re: apt-get upgrade (security packages)

2013-10-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/14/2013 09:43 PM, Pol Hallen wrote: Howdy :-) I've a production server particularly patched. I prefer install only security packages but keep others packages to same version. Should I've some problems if keep only: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib

Re: apt-get upgrade (security packages)

2013-10-14 Thread Pol Hallen
I think the best way to do this is using a normal Debian stable. There are only few updates to stable which add features which means that update is a security update. Huh? I use debian 7 stable, but now the upgrade show me 4 security updates and MANY MANY updates from debian mirros (not from

Re: apt-get upgrade (security packages)

2013-10-14 Thread Pol Hallen
Debian point-release was issued over the weekend: Understood! Thanks Steve :-) Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525c51c0.4050...@fuckaround.org

Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel

2013-10-14 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 10:04 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:15 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: What? does everyone have their menus turned off? (Edit menu - Preferences - Contents tab - disable JavaScript. Or am I missing something here?) I didn't refer to Iceweasel for

Re: apt-get upgrade (security packages)

2013-10-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/14/2013 10:11 PM, Pol Hallen wrote: I think the best way to do this is using a normal Debian stable. There are only few updates to stable which add features which means that update is a security update. Huh? I use debian 7 stable, but now the upgrade show me 4 security updates and

Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel

2013-10-14 Thread John Lindsay
Just an update --- ran clamtk (clamav) several times until it was clear. Got avast downloaded and installed and ran it twice. Opened a new iceweasel then closed it -- reopened and got the 'restore sessions' message, selected new session and things are back to normal. Thanks for the

Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel

2013-10-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 17:27 -0400, John Lindsay wrote: Just an update --- ran clamtk (clamav) several times until it was clear. Got avast downloaded and installed and ran it twice. Opened a new iceweasel then closed it -- reopened and got the 'restore sessions' message, selected new session

Strange PGP signature

2013-10-14 Thread Aort Conda
What is this? The file on official cd mirror is different. SHA512SUMS Description: Attachment: SHA512SUMS SHA512SUMS.sign Description: Attachment: SHA512SUMS.sign

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/14/2013 4:37 AM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:53:50 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:19:18PM +0100, Joe wrote: though most include routers and other useless stuff. ..when it is normally customary to refer to them as routers.

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread Catherine Gramze
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:12:32 -0400 Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: Maybe where you are, but not in the world scheme of things. A router is a specific box. A (A)DSL modem may also contain a firewall, etc. But most (A)DSL modems, cable modems, etc., only have one Ethernet port.

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread John Hasler
Catherine Gramze writes: [A cable modem] doesn't do any modulating or demodulating. It simply allows the packets to go from one network to the other. Yes it does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docsis -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-14 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/14/2013 9:28 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:12:32 -0400 Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: Maybe where you are, but not in the world scheme of things. A router is a specific box. A (A)DSL modem may also contain a firewall, etc. But most (A)DSL modems,

Re: goed verhaal, speelgoed verhaal

2013-10-14 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 2013-10-13 om 22:08 schreef Paul van der Vlis: Op 13-10-13 21:23, Geert Stappers schreef: Op 2013-10-13 om 18:25 schreef Paul van der Vlis: VLC en Mplayer zijn 'gewoon' afspelers. Op een raspberrypi start ik `DISPLAY=:0 mplayer http://b3/film/ts3.ogv` en krijg dat slow motion

Re: goed verhaal, speelgoed verhaal

2013-10-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 13-10-13 18:25, Paul van der Vlis wrote: VLC en Mplayer zijn 'gewoon' afspelers. Mja. wouter@carillon:~$ cat /etc/vlc/lua/http/.hosts # # Access-list for VLC HTTP interface # $Id$ # # localhost ::1 127.0.0.1 # link-local addresses #fe80::/64 # private addresses #fc00::/7 #fec0::/10

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