Re: latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Filip fi...@fbvnet.be writes: [...] I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed directories for the pkg to operate. Is it normal for user to create these things? No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a working initial configuration where

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/17/2014 01:14 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 12:34:12, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:

Re: latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Filip
On Sat, 17 May 2014 17:08:10 -0400 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Filip fi...@fbvnet.be writes: [...] I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed directories for the pkg to operate. Is it normal for user to create these things? No, it's not

new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot

2014-05-17 Thread John Bleichert
Hello All, Running jessie/sid on an i7. Just installed todays updates which included an update from 3.13-1-amd64 to 3.14-1-amd64 and the new kernel does not boot, it just stalls at Booting the kernel (full console below). Any idea how to debug this? The previous 3.13 kernel boots just fine!

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/17/2014 03:40 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:57:39, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install

Re: Random hard freezes Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/17/2014 2:43 AM, Mimiko wrote: On one server I intermittently encounter hard freezes. Server does not react, ping, or ctrl+alt+del. Just caps lock and num lock flashes. Only a power off from button helps to start server, after which it runs until again this happens. Flashing KB LEDs is

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 02:16:32PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: I am wondering where I can find the desktops thats used in the latest Debian XFCE desktop Wallpapers? I'm not sure which wallpaper you're talking about, but have you checked xfce4-artwork? Cheers, Tom -- Higher education helps your

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread c. marlow
On 05/17/2014 07:20 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 02:16:32PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: I am wondering where I can find the desktops thats used in the latest Debian XFCE desktop Wallpapers? I'm not sure which wallpaper you're talking about, but have you checked xfce4-artwork?

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/17/2014 07:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 13:08:06, Slavko wrote: Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! I never said you or I or Mozilla or Debian don't have ideals (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). In fact I

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/17/2014 02:57 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable?

Re: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
- Original Message - From: Eike Lantzsch Sent: 05/17/14 07:52 PM To: Debian-user Subject: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives On the contacts for the heads and also on the washer-shaped contacts for the srews I found a brownish-reddish film. I removed

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
- Original Message - From: Joel Rees Sent: 05/17/14 07:06 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails Maybe the tail mailing list would be more appropriate, but the problem is finding people in Brazil who would be willing to do a free service gig by dd-ing an image of

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
- Original Message - From: Martin Vegter Sent: 05/18/14 01:58 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: systemd situation in Jesssie Hello, I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates

Re: Will Iceweasel stay open source?

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/16/2014 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: You get the world you consent to. Brother Zenaan, why do I hear Unmarked Helicopters by Soul Coughing when these kind of issues spring up?? It's on YouTube, you'll love it! :) Thanks Ric,

Where to get older versions of pkgs

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm having plenty of trouble with the newest version of sendmail on a brand new install. I have the version numbers obtained by running: aptitude search -F sendmail '%p %v' On a machine with it installed. I understand the command necessary to install a certain version: aptitude install

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/17/2014 07:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Nobody forces you to install the add-on, certainly not Mozilla or Debian. And that is the part I don't get. Anyone is free to not install it. This has become another Unmarked Helicopters issue.

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 17 May 2014 21:06:42 +1200 Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: Greetings all, Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to install Tails onto a USB stick,

Re: Xfce4, systemd - shutdown via builtin-dialog isn't working

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/17/14, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 17.05.2014 04:27, schrieb Zenaan Harkness: I have no display manager. [..] Also, I would like to see Shutdown and Suspend enabled, of course. Most likely related to [0]. Make sure you have libpam-systemd installed and enabled and when

systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). Additionally, this slow tty/session creation time is seen when: *) exiting X - ie logout back to terminal (from startx)

Re: Xfce4, systemd - shutdown via builtin-dialog isn't working

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 5/17/14, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 17.05.2014 04:27, schrieb Zenaan Harkness: I have no display manager. [..] Also, I would like to see Shutdown and Suspend enabled, of course. Most likely related to [0]. Make sure

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 07:38:36PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: I have checked all over google and cannot find any of the desktops in Vanilla Debian, as they're different distro to distro I am on Xubuntu 12.04 right now but one day plan on going back to Vanilla Debian I liked how it only used 100

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 06:10:44PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 17 May 2014 00:12:48 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct? Yes, correct. And Testing is Jessie. But Tails is not the

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 18:30:02, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/17/2014 03:40 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Actually gdm3 Depends: libpam-systemd, which Depends: systemd-sysv, so yes, you do. network-manager and gnome-bluetooth also depend on libpam-systemd. Is this in unstable or experimental?

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread c. marlow
On 05/17/2014 10:36 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 07:38:36PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: I have checked all over google and cannot find any of the desktops in Vanilla Debian, as they're different distro to distro I am on Xubuntu 12.04 right now but one day plan on going back to

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 18 mai 14, 12:49:08, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). ... Any ideas why this might be happening? As far as I recall

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