Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-30 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:12:37 -0400 Steve Litt sent: > The ssh daemon is a perfect example, and > so is httpd. The Dovecot daemon. Networkmanager or wicd. In my > opinion, there's no reason to have these managed by the init system: > Daemontools is the ideal place to manage stuff like this. That's

Re: UEFI Secure Boot and enabling W8/Linux dual boot - some links/refs

2014-08-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steve Litt: > I've personally disabled Secure Boot from a cold boot to the BIOS, and > then installed Ubuntu, and had both OS's work. I've done this at least > twice, maybe more. That being said, perhaps the reason I failed to > install a *Debian* dual-boot was because I shut off Secure Boot fro

Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 08:49:41 +0200 Slavko wrote: > I hope, that in near future there will be developed something, what > can enable new kernel properties, but in more modular system > (cgmanager as the first step), where one thing can simple work > without other. I hope, that the freedesktop wil

Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 29 Aug 2014 at 19:19:47 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > On Thu 28 Aug 2014 at 21:25:37 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > >> it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep a debian without systemd. > > > > I'll have to stop doing it then. Someone might explain to you what > > has been explained many times before;