Re: bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL

2014-09-14 Thread andre_debian
On Saturday 13 September 2014 23:58:14 Jean-Marc wrote: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:37:00 +0200 andre_deb...@numericable.fr écrivait : Si je mets ce codage : fr_FR.ISO-8859-15, j'ai ce message d'erreur. Si je mets celui-ci : fr_FR, plus de messages d'erreur. Le paramètre d'encodage européen de

commande ac

2014-09-14 Thread Diogene Laerce
Bonjour, Je viens de découvrir cette commande qui me retourne de curieux résultats : # ac -d Sep 1 total 9.98 Sep 2 total 83.40 Sep 3 total 68.37 Sep 4 total 98.87 Sep 5 total 80.70 Sep 6 total 118.50 Sep 7 total 82.97 Sep 8 total 11.95 Sep 9 total 71.83 Sep 10 total 94.41 Sep 11 total 84.48 Sep

Re: commande ac

2014-09-14 Thread Ken-Patrick Lehrmann
Bonjour, On 14/09/2014 13:30, Diogene Laerce wrote: Je viens de découvrir cette commande qui me retourne de curieux résultats : # ac -d [skip] Quelqu'un aurait-il une explication ? man ac ou https://www.gnu.org/software/acct/manual/html_mono/accounting.html#SEC5 Merci, De rien, KP

Multics

2014-09-14 Thread Sésame
Ce courriel délibérément en clair me permet d'exprimer toute ma gratitude sincère pour votre bénévolat et ayant découvert NU/Linux au travers d'une distribution (de bon aloi)et adossée à un société privée je souhaiterais configurer un petit réseau local constitué de deux PC et d'une imprimante que

Re: commande ac

2014-09-14 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 09/14/2014 01:57 PM, Ken-Patrick Lehrmann wrote: Bonjour, On 14/09/2014 13:30, Diogene Laerce wrote: Je viens de découvrir cette commande qui me retourne de curieux résultats : # ac -d [skip] Quelqu'un aurait-il une explication ? man ac ou

Re: bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL

2014-09-14 Thread Jean-Marc
Sun, 14 Sep 2014 12:10:03 +0200 andre_deb...@numericable.fr écrivait : [...] localedef --list-archive : fr_FR fr_FR.iso88591 fr_FR.utf8 français french Ci-dessus, le ç de français est en hiéroglyphes, alors que je suis en fr_FR... Le «ç» en hiéroglyphes, c'est typique d'un

Re: commande ac

2014-09-14 Thread Ken-Patrick Lehrmann
On 14/09/2014 14:23, Diogene Laerce wrote: C'est gentil mais les explications demandees portent sur l'incoherence des resultats, non sur l'utilisation et les pages man de la commande que j'ai deja consulte. Au temps pour moi. Alors il faudrait expliciter l'incohérence, elle ne saute pas au

Re: commande ac

2014-09-14 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 09/14/2014 02:39 PM, Ken-Patrick Lehrmann wrote: On 14/09/2014 14:23, Diogene Laerce wrote: C'est gentil mais les explications demandees portent sur l'incoherence des resultats, non sur l'utilisation et les pages man de la commande que j'ai deja consulte. Au temps pour moi. Alors il

Re: commande ac

2014-09-14 Thread Ken-Patrick Lehrmann
Merci, je comprends mieux tes interrogations. On 14/09/2014 15:06, Diogene Laerce wrote: ac -d renvoie le nombre d'heures ou l'utilisateur a ete connecte : alors je travaille beaucoup mais par exemple 118.50 heures de connexion le 6 septembre, ca me parait un peu excessif.. :) Tu as eu

Re: commande ac

2014-09-14 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 09/14/2014 03:35 PM, Ken-Patrick Lehrmann wrote: Merci, je comprends mieux tes interrogations. On 14/09/2014 15:06, Diogene Laerce wrote: ac -d renvoie le nombre d'heures ou l'utilisateur a ete connecte : alors je travaille beaucoup mais par exemple 118.50 heures de connexion le 6

Re: Jessie Pb suite à mise à jour : Système non complètement opérationnel

2014-09-14 Thread Yann COHEN
Bonjour, Je m'en suis sorti en effectuant une réinstallation de l'os... Yann. Le mardi 09 septembre 2014 à 19:22 +0200, Yann COHEN a écrit : Bonjour, Cela fait plusieurs jours maintenant que je me débats sur plusieurs postes nouvellement mis à jour soit de Jessie à Jessie sous de Wheezy

Re: Jessie Pb suite à mise à jour : Système non complètement opérationnel

2014-09-14 Thread RHATAY Sami
Le 09/09/2014 23:53, Yann COHEN a écrit : Le mardi 09 septembre 2014 à 21:32 +0200, Samy Mezani a écrit : Bonjour, Le 09/09/2014 19:22, Yann COHEN a écrit : Le problème est que dans cette situation la machine n'est plus facilement opérationnelle : * nmapplet non fonctionnelle

Re: Pregunta... Sobre Paquetes INSTALADORES

2014-09-14 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 03:54:25PM -0300, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena wrote: [...] Por eso es que creo que sería interesante considerar algunas mejoras en el sistema que hoy día funciona muy bien pero podría funcionar mejor. Desde hace cinco años que existe apt-offline, precisamente para

Re: Pregunta... Sobre Paquetes INSTALADORES

2014-09-14 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 14/09/14 a las 00:45, Rivera Valdez escribió: Pregunto (desde mi evidente ignorancia): Cuando se empaqueta el programa y se genera el .deb, ¿no es posible hacerlo de modo tal que contenga todas las dependencias necesarias (en alguna versión apropiada) para que se instalen en tanto A. no haya

Re: Pregunta... Sobre Paquetes INSTALADORES

2014-09-14 Thread Marco
Hola... y es por eso que existen varios versiobss de Debian GNU/Linux Stable Testing Unstable Experimental* (alpha-testing :) Stable, si no habrá conexión a internet todo el tiempo, descargarse los DVD y generarse el repositorio local. Y luego, Ya lo mencionarón, apt-offline. Por que no se

Re: [OT] Re: Propuesta de creación de lista para los OffTopics

2014-09-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:18:57 +0200, Etemenanki escribió: Camaleón wrote: (...) Creo que es la mejor solución, así los fuera de tema estarían en otro archivo/lista y no se incumplirían las normas. Los usuarios que no quieran offtopics seguirían la lista normal (debian-user-spanish) y

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:09:17 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus escribió: (...) Si al menos dijeras de qué aplicación se trata... No uso Android, de hecho mi móvil es del año 2006 por lo ni siquiera tiene un sistema operativo, y dado que existen ¿miles? de apps de música, por mucha

[OT] Re: ¿Yowsup desaparecera con el tiempo?

2014-09-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:18:55 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: Lo marco como OT y corrijo el html. Listeros: Mi pregunta es ¿WhatsApp busca eliminar todo aquello que se pueda automatizar con aplicaciones en consola de comandos como es yowsup?. Pues no sé... pregúntale a ellos :-) Digo porque

Re: [OT] Re: ¿Yowsup desaparecera con el tiempo?

2014-09-14 Thread Debia Linux
2014-09-14 10:14 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:18:55 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: Lo marco como OT y corrijo el html. Listeros: Mi pregunta es ¿WhatsApp busca eliminar todo aquello que se pueda automatizar con aplicaciones en consola de comandos como es

¿Memoria ram reservada? o otroa cosa debian 7.x

2014-09-14 Thread Vincent Romero
Buenas tardes Actualmente presento un problema con Debian 7 elcual es el siguiente: Al momento del arranque del sistema, el servidor debian empieza a reservar se prodria decir asi, memoria ram, realmente reserva 8 gb de los 16 gb que tiene y este comportamiento me parace sumanemte raro. Cuando

Re: ¿Memoria ram reservada? o otroa cosa debian 7.x

2014-09-14 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Sunday 14 September 2014 12:58:50 Vincent Romero wrote: A que se debera este comportamiento? Saludos ¿No tendrá que ver con esto? http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ ¿Cuál es la salida de free -m? Luis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-14 Thread JavierDebian
Para no molestar en la lista, por favor, por privado, alguien que haya hecho funcionar Serviio con un TV Sony Bravia. Muchas gracias. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-14 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El sep 14, 2014 3:52 PM, JavierDebian javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com escribió: Para no molestar en la lista, por favor, por privado, alguien que haya hecho funcionar Serviio con un TV Sony Bravia. Muchas gracias. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-14 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El sep 14, 2014 12:09 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:09:17 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus escribió: (...) Si al menos dijeras de qué aplicación se trata... No uso Android, de hecho mi móvil es del año 2006 por lo ni siquiera tiene un sistema

Re: ¿Memoria ram reservada? o otroa cosa debian 7.x

2014-09-14 Thread Vincent Romero
BUenas tardes, creo que esta es la solucion. Debo llegar al trabajo y chequearlo. Por todo lo que he visto y leido coincide mucho con lo que pasa con el servidor. Claro esta el servidor reserva 8 gb solo para el. Saludos y gracias On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso

Re: ¿Memoria ram reservada? o otroa cosa debian 7.x

2014-09-14 Thread jors
On 14/09/14 19:28, Vincent Romero wrote: Buenas tardes Actualmente presento un problema con Debian 7 elcual es el siguiente: Al momento del arranque del sistema, el servidor debian empieza a reservar se prodria decir asi, memoria ram, realmente reserva 8 gb de los 16 gb que tiene y este

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-14 Thread JavierDebian
El 14/09/14 16:13, Roberto Quiñones escribió: El sep 14, 2014 3:52 PM, JavierDebian javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com mailto:javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com escribió: Para no molestar en la lista, por favor, por privado, alguien que haya hecho funcionar Serviio con un TV Sony Bravia. Muchas

Re: [OT]App de música en Android no funciona.

2014-09-14 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:43:07 -0430 Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com escribió: El día 13 de septiembre de 2014, 12:21, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: El sábado, 13 sep 2014 a las 18:03 horas (UTC+2), Etemenanki escribió: Felix Perez wrote: El día 12 de septiembre de

Re: ¿Memoria ram reservada? o otroa cosa debian 7.x

2014-09-14 Thread jors
On 14 de septiembre de 2014 19:57:04 CEST, jors j...@enchufado.com wrote: On 14/09/14 19:28, Vincent Romero wrote: Buenas tardes Actualmente presento un problema con Debian 7 elcual es el siguiente: Al momento del arranque del sistema, el servidor debian empieza a reservar se prodria decir

Re: Pregunta... Sobre Paquetes INSTALADORES

2014-09-14 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:54:25 -0300 Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena egis_e...@yahoo.com.ar escribió: Con fecha Viernes, 12 de Septiembre de 2014, 07:15:20 p.m., Gerardo escribió: El 13/09/14 00:06, Erick Ocrospoma escribió: Bueno, dudo que no sepa la existencia de paquetes Debian (eso parece),

Re: Propuesta de creación de lista para los OffTopics

2014-09-14 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:32:01 +0200 Etemenanki etemena...@openmailbox.org escribió: Hola, (creo que me voy a meter en un lío, pero ahí va...) si Dado que se están incumpliendo las normas con los offtopics y hay gente que se ha quejado, propongo la creación de la siguiente lista:

Re: Propuesta de creación de lista para los OffTopics

2014-09-14 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
El 13 de septiembre de 2014, 23:38, Etemenanki escribió: Aunque parezca una broma es todo lo contrario, es un intento serio de solucionar las cosas que no funcionan, alguna vez se tenía que hacer ¿no crees? Entonces si no es una broma es un monumento al humor involuntario. Y no, no lo creo,

Re: OT: Serviio sobre Debian

2014-09-14 Thread Roberto Quiñones
El 14-09-2014 a las #4, JavierDebian escribió: El 14/09/14 16:13, Roberto Quiñones escribió: El sep 14, 2014 3:52 PM, JavierDebian javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com mailto:javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com escribió: Para no molestar en la lista, por favor, por privado, alguien que haya hecho

reportando un bug

2014-09-14 Thread DACD
Hola qué tal. Me he dado cuenta de que al trabajar con dos pantallas diferentes (la integrada del portátil y una pantalla externa), al colocar la externa como secundaria ocurría un error en la primaria (portátil), porque se veía una franja azul en la parte de arriba. Luego volví a dejarlas en modo

Re: reportando un bug

2014-09-14 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
El 14 de septiembre de 2014, 22:30, DACD escribió: Hola qué tal. Me he dado cuenta de que al trabajar con dos pantallas diferentes (la integrada del portátil y una pantalla externa), al colocar la externa como secundaria ocurría un error en la primaria (portátil), porque se veía una franja

RSS-kanal

2014-09-14 Thread Rolf Edlund
Denna RSS-länk på sidan https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ verkar bruten. https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.sv.rdf -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: RSS-kanal

2014-09-14 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:22:53 +0200, Rolf Edlundrolfew...@gmail.com wrote: Denna RSS-länk på sidan https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ verkar bruten. https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.sv.rdf Tackar, ordnat i CVS-förrådet. Den rätta länken är https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn - det

Re: RSS-kanal

2014-09-14 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 14 september 2014 14:21 skrev Andreas Rönnquist mailingli...@gusnan.se: Denna RSS-länk på sidan https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ verkar bruten. https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/dwn.sv.rdf Tackar, ordnat i CVS-förrådet. Vasse'go! Den rätta länken är

Re: Skicka svar till listan från GMails Webmail

2014-09-14 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2014-09-13 at 22:31 +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote: Någon sa i listan, att den är felkonfigurerad ? Nej, listan är inte felkonfigurerad, det råder dock lite skilda meningar om hur man hanterar Reply-To. Det vanligaste är dock att sköta det så här. Se även

Re: Skicka svar till listan från GMails Webmail

2014-09-14 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:58:20 +0200, Sven Arvidssons...@whiz.se wrote: On Sat, 2014-09-13 at 22:31 +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote: Någon sa i listan, att den är felkonfigurerad ? Nej, listan är inte felkonfigurerad, det råder dock lite skilda meningar om hur man hanterar Reply-To. Det vanligaste är

Re: Skicka svar till listan från GMails Webmail

2014-09-14 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 14 september 2014 16:33 skrev Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se: Jag tror det är få som fortfarande använder mailinglistor för diskussion, mest är det ju inom FLOSS-världen, och där tror jag andelen som använder GMails webbgränssnitt är ganska litet. Eftersom jag inte vet var FLOSS står för, så

Re: Skicka svar till listan från GMails Webmail

2014-09-14 Thread Tommy
Den 2014-09-14 17:09, Rolf Edlund skrev: Den 14 september 2014 16:33 skrev Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se: Jag tror det är få som fortfarande använder mailinglistor för diskussion, mest är det ju inom FLOSS-världen, och där tror jag andelen som använder GMails webbgränssnitt är ganska litet.

Re: Skicka svar till listan från GMails Webmail

2014-09-14 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 14 september 2014 18:41 skrev Tommy hawk00...@yahoo.se: Varsågod, tyvärr bara på engelska. T.ex Google har en överättnings tjänst. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_terms_for_free_software#FLOSS Tackar! Vet inte varför jag inte gick dit med en gång.. ;). -- /Rolf -- To

Re: FSF e Debian

2014-09-14 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 12 de setembro de 2014 22:01, Luiz L. Marins luizlmarins...@gmail.com escreveu: Distribuição Linux para desktop, sem free proprietário, simplesmente não funciona. O que está errado no Linux Desktop são os conceitos defasados de software livre da FSF, e não as distribuições que abandonaram

Re: how to reinstall bash

2014-09-14 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:29:15 +0800 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: $ ls -l /bin/sh /bin/bash /bin/dash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1029624 Aug 22 05:15 /bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 117176 Jan 10 2014 /bin/dash lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 13 17:48 /bin/sh - /bin/bash Now it is

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-14 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/14 6:55 lee lee@ l...@yun.yagibdah.deyun.yagibdah.de l...@yun.yagibdah.de: Joel Rees joel.rees joel.r...@gmail.com@ joel.r...@gmail.comgmail.com joel.r...@gmail.com writes: 2014/09/12 3:35 lee lee@ l...@yun.yagibdah.deyun.yagibdah.de l...@yun.yagibdah.de: [...] Well, I don't

Re: preseeding: disable systemd

2014-09-14 Thread Martin Vegter
On 09/14/2014 02:22 AM, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/09/13 22:06 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk mailto:a...@cityscape.co.uk: On Sat 13 Sep 2014 at 08:08:55 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 09/13/2014 at 07:42 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 13.09.2014 um 12:22 schrieb Erwan David: Le 12/09/2014

Re: how to reinstall bash

2014-09-14 Thread songbird
Marko Randjelovic wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:29:15 +0800 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: $ ls -l /bin/sh /bin/bash /bin/dash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1029624 Aug 22 05:15 /bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 117176 Jan 10 2014 /bin/dash lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 13 17:48 /bin/sh

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-14 Thread Martin Read
On 13/09/14 20:54, lee wrote: Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? Without systemd means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc.. Many components of the KDE Software Collection have no identifiable dependency on systemd's support libraries. (Indeed, a significant fraction of

Re: how to reinstall bash

2014-09-14 Thread Martin Read
On 14/09/14 10:44, songbird wrote: Marko Randjelovic wrote: I don't know what Debian release do you use, but since Squeeze, /bin/sh should point to dash. i'm not sure about that... I suspect it to be the case that if you've been continuously upgrading since before the change was made,

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:06:59PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 06:17:00PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: some time ago, I bought two external Seagate 2 TB USB 3.0 HDDs in order to expand my local storage (all internal slots are already in use). Having created a RAID1 with

Re: preseed

2014-09-14 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi Bob, On 09/02/2014 11:18 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Diogene Laerce wrote: Brian wrote: [...] You didn't say what you were trying to do. I was trying to automatize the process with a python script but I got a broken pipe issue that I couldn't overcome. So I did a bash script that works just

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 09/14/2014 02:06 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 06:17:00PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: [...] Is there any means to configure MDADM (or such) to make sure that all devices are recognized before attempting to start the array so that I could manually reconnect the missing disk and

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:06:59PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: [...] It's almost certainly a real problem, and in my experience it is not the disk itself which is bad, but something in the path (the USB port, the USB cable, the USB-SATA

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 09/14/2014 01:42 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: On 09/14/2014 02:06 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: [...] In the meantime, you can: - add a bitmap file to the RAID, which will speed up rebuilds. - use the --no-degraded flag, to prevent assembly of a RAID that is lacking a disk. Thank you very much for

Re: preseeding: disable systemd

2014-09-14 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/14/2014 at 05:15 AM, Martin Vegter wrote: On 09/14/2014 02:22 AM, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/09/13 22:06 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk mailto:a...@cityscape.co.uk: Nothing needs to clarified. The only contradictory post is based on not

Re: preseeding: disable systemd

2014-09-14 Thread Erwan David
Le 14/09/2014 14:15, The Wanderer a écrit : On 09/14/2014 at 05:15 AM, Martin Vegter wrote: On 09/14/2014 02:22 AM, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/09/13 22:06 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk mailto:a...@cityscape.co.uk: Nothing needs to clarified. The only contradictory post is based on not

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-14 Thread lee
B lazyvi...@gmx.com writes: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:09:58 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Does swapping to partitions use checksumming for data integrity? Not that I know of (but I always make a looong destructive test before use, either on regular partitions and swaps). Have

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-14 Thread lee
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com writes: 2014/09/14 6:55 lee lee@ l...@yun.yagibdah.deyun.yagibdah.de l...@yun.yagibdah.de: Joel Rees joel.rees joel.r...@gmail.com@ joel.r...@gmail.comgmail.com joel.r...@gmail.com writes: 2014/09/12 3:35 lee lee@ l...@yun.yagibdah.deyun.yagibdah.de

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-14 Thread lee
B lazyvi...@gmx.com writes: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:56:48 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Multiplication is an algorithmic operation. Well, technically speaking, it is additions. In any case, some algorithm is used :) -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. --

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread lee
Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de writes: Also, the reliability of the external storage is required to be perfect Then forget USB disks. Get an HP Microserver and reliable disks. -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-14 Thread lee
Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk writes: On 13/09/14 20:54, lee wrote: Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? Without systemd means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc.. [...] The best place to ask would be the user community discussion spaces (mailing lists / web forums /

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread lee
Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de writes: On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: or even buy some additional drives (I know that it is often said that today drives are cheap but for me being comparatively new to computing, 60€ are still much for a HDD) Where do you get good 2TB+ drives

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:30:34PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: On 09/14/2014 01:42 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: On 09/14/2014 02:06 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: [...] In the meantime, you can: - add a bitmap file to the RAID, which will speed up rebuilds. - use the --no-degraded flag, to prevent

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:53:50 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Have you actually tested (with hot-pluggable disks) what happens when one of the partitions the system is swapping to suddenly becomes unavailable or difficult to access and what happens when the data (on one of the

OT: gas plant (was Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs))

2014-09-14 Thread davidson
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, B wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:46:31 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: All interesting things you said, plus a bunch of other readings confort me in my first impression: Linux was becoming too much secured for the taste of agencies (and which better candidate than

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 09/14/2014 04:35 PM, lee wrote: Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de writes: Also, the reliability of the external storage is required to be perfect Then forget USB disks. Get an HP Microserver and reliable disks. Sorry, forgot to insert a not :). It should read the reliability of the external

Re: OT: gas plant (was Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs))

2014-09-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:52:24 -0400 (EDT) david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: for those unfamiliar with the french figurative use of the term gas refinery (usine à gaz): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine#Similar_expressions_worldwide Oops, thanks Wes; I sometimes

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:55:46 +0200 Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de wrote: Concerning editing the initscript: I am now going to do that but I guess it is going to produce trouble when upgrading to Jessie. No it won't. Installing a new version of mdadm package will produce a different version

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 09/14/2014 04:33 PM, lee wrote: Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de writes: On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: or even buy some additional drives (I know that it is often said that today drives are cheap but for me being comparatively new to computing, 60€ are still much for a HDD)

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote: I'd be happy to see some support.  I cannot speak for the users or for the free software community. No, you can't. You users, and the community members, whoever they are, need to speak as well. Perhaps, just perhaps, many of them don't

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:54:56 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com writes: When Jessie goes stable, I'm actually going to try Jessie to see whether it will work reasonably, and if so I'll hold my nose and use the monolithic entanglement. FWIW, I

View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-14 Thread Bartosz Olender
I am probably one of the few people (at least from what I can see by following this topic) on this mailing list, that don't mind systemd and see that the benefits of switching to it outclass the negatives. Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding that GNU is *Not*

server backup

2014-09-14 Thread Glenn English
What do you server admins use for backup? For the past decade or so, I've been using a SCSI Quantum DLT 120 tape device and Amanda software. It's been wonderful, but the tape drive's been making mistakes of late, so I've been thinking about replacing it with a SATA or SAS of some kind. What

Re: server backup

2014-09-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:56:35 -0600 Glenn English g...@slsware.net wrote: What do you server admins use for backup? Are you talking personally or professionally? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:11:50 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk writes: On 13/09/14 20:54, lee wrote: Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? Without systemd means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc.. [...] The best place to ask

USB bootable debian stick wont boot on 890FXA-GD65 mobo.

2014-09-14 Thread Alexandros Prekates
I made many test but what is more significant ( i think) is that the same usb stick with memtest86 (proposed from pendrive as a testing case[1]) : but if following the debian installation instructions[2] i execute: # cp debian.iso /dev/sdX # sync After rebooting i see no messsage so ever, and

debian-user-digest: Debian install with Windows and ubuntu

2014-09-14 Thread JOÃO ROBERTO Lamberti
14/09/2014 Tenho instalados no meu computador o Windows 7 e o Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, o Debian vêem com GParted como o Ubuntu para instalação ? Caso não tenha GParted ou similar, se for possível como fazer a instalação ? atenciosamente, João Roberto Lamberti E-mail: joaolambe...@gmail.com -- LAROJO

Fwd: Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-14 Thread Linux-Fan
Sorry, this should have been sent to the list in the first place. Original Message Subject: Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 18:12:41 +0200 From: Linux-Fan ma_sys...@web.de To: Reco recovery...@gmail.com On 09/14/2014 06:06 PM, Reco wrote: Hi.

debian-user-digest: Debian install with Windows and ubuntu

2014-09-14 Thread JOÃO ROBERTO Lamberti
09/14/2014 I have installed on my computer Windows 7 and Ubuntu 14:04 LTS, Debian come with GParted as the Ubuntu installation? If not GParted or similar if possible how to install? regards, João Roberto Lamberti E-mail: joaolambe...@gmail.com -- LAROJO

Re: OT: gas plant (was Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs))

2014-09-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:52:24 -0400 (EDT) david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, B wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:46:31 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: All interesting things you said, plus a bunch of other readings confort me in my first impression: Linux was

Re: Making keyboard remap changes permanent without reboot.

2014-09-14 Thread Alexandros Prekates
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:12:32 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 13 Sep 2014 at 01:53:57 +0300, Alexandros Prekates wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:59:30 +0200 B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:48:50 +0300 Alexandros Prekates apreka...@openmailbox.org

Re: server backup

2014-09-14 Thread Glenn English
On Sep 14, 2014, at 12:11 PM, B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: What do you server admins use for backup? Are you talking personally or professionally? There's no difference here. How about your answer to both? And maybe why there's a difference? Sorry, B, for personal reply instead of

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:22:16 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote: I'd be happy to see some support.  I cannot speak for the users or for the free software community. No, you can't. You users, and the community members,

Re: USB bootable debian stick wont boot on 890FXA-GD65 mobo.

2014-09-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Sep 2014 at 21:21:37 +0300, Alexandros Prekates wrote: I made many test but what is more significant ( i think) is that the same usb stick with memtest86 (proposed from pendrive as a testing case[1]) : but if following the debian installation instructions[2] i execute: # cp

Re: server backup

2014-09-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
Glenn English wrote: On Sep 14, 2014, at 12:11 PM, B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: What do you server admins use for backup? Are you talking personally or professionally? There's no difference here. How about your answer to both? And maybe why there's a difference? Sorry, B, for

Re: debian-user-digest: Debian install with Windows and ubuntu

2014-09-14 Thread Joe
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:10:01 -0300 JOÃO ROBERTO Lamberti joaolambe...@gmail.com wrote: 09/14/2014 I have installed on my computer Windows 7 and Ubuntu 14:04 LTS, Debian come with GParted as the Ubuntu installation? If not GParted or similar if possible how to install? I believe it is not

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-14 Thread Doug
On 09/14/2014 01:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:54:56 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com writes: /snip/ Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? Without systemd means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc.. LOL, If I

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:06:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/14/2014 01:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: By the way, if you wonder why I'm being so hard on KDE, these three articles explain: http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm#_editors_desk I didn't read any

Re: USB bootable debian stick wont boot on 890FXA-GD65 mobo.

2014-09-14 Thread Alexandros Prekates
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 19:56:04 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 14 Sep 2014 at 21:21:37 +0300, Alexandros Prekates wrote: I made many test but what is more significant ( i think) is that the same usb stick with memtest86 (proposed from pendrive as a testing case[1]) :

Re: USB bootable debian stick wont boot on 890FXA-GD65 mobo.

2014-09-14 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Sep 2014 at 00:20:29 +0300, Alexandros Prekates wrote: http://paste.debian.net/120890 for /var/log/syslog and fdisk info on the machine with the mobo in question (i've already ubuntu installed on the machine but want to dual boot with debian testing :-) ). From your

Re: server backup

2014-09-14 Thread David Christensen
On 09/14/2014 10:56 AM, Glenn English wrote: What do you server admins use for backup? For the past decade or so, I've been using a SCSI Quantum DLT 120 tape device and Amanda software. It's been wonderful, but the tape drive's been making mistakes of late, so I've been thinking about

Re: Making keyboard remap changes permanent without reboot.

2014-09-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Sep 2014 at 21:36:49 +0300, Alexandros Prekates wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:12:32 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: How did you go about doing that? You're using xscreensaver? Maybe i didnt state it correctly .I just noticed that after the screensavers draws its

Error with Latest Google Chrome Stable

2014-09-14 Thread Kenneth Jacker
[ Debian stable ] A few days ago, I updated Chrome from: google-chrome-stable:amd64 37.0.2062.94-1 to: google-chrome-stable:amd64 37.0.2062.120-1 That update caused pages with embedded Adobe Flash to malfunction (with various nasty error windows appearing). I tried to find the

Re: Error with Latest Google Chrome Stable

2014-09-14 Thread Sven Hartge
Kenneth Jacker k...@be.cs.appstate.edu wrote: [ Debian stable ] A few days ago, I updated Chrome from: google-chrome-stable:amd64 37.0.2062.94-1 to: google-chrome-stable:amd64 37.0.2062.120-1 That update caused pages with embedded Adobe Flash to malfunction (with various nasty

Re: USB bootable debian stick wont boot on 890FXA-GD65 mobo.

2014-09-14 Thread Alexandros Prekates
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 23:23:37 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Mon 15 Sep 2014 at 00:20:29 +0300, Alexandros Prekates wrote: http://paste.debian.net/120890 for /var/log/syslog and fdisk info on the machine with the mobo in question (i've already ubuntu installed on the machine

Re: USB bootable debian stick wont boot on 890FXA-GD65 mobo.

2014-09-14 Thread Alexandros Prekates
Thanks Brian! It worked. I wonder if my first mistake was that i used: #cp debian.iso /dev/sdb1 and not #cp debian.iso /dev/sdb Anyway thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Error with Latest Google Chrome Stable

2014-09-14 Thread Kenneth Jacker
So instead, I removed the 120 version, and reinstalled 94. Flash returned to normal! Just as you suggest later ... Is this a known bug? With Chrome? With Flash? sven This is known. For some unknown reasons Google decided to link their sven libpepflash.so with glibc-2.14, which is

Re: preseeding: disable systemd

2014-09-14 Thread Marty
On 09/14/2014 08:15 AM, The Wanderer wrote: The fourth would require clarification from you as to exactly what it is you do require. (not OP but) I require the exclusion all packages by their dev teams from my computer. Is that clear enough? Linus doesn't trust them. Why should I?

Re: Chroot/Debootstrap Mechanisms (Was: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?)

2014-09-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Yeah, I'm just the other side of ready to attempt testing. Soon. Very soon. Life keeps getting in the way. Truthfully not sure what I've got. The simple stuff, like determining version, eludes me often.. DID miraculously just have uname come to mind so ended up with

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