Re: [Résolu] Re: Iceweasel https://wiki.archlinux.org Connexion non certifiée

2014-12-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Nicolas a écrit : Je suis bien conscient d'avoir fait une bêtise en effaçant les certificats startcom de iceweasel. Comme déjà répondu, tu ne les avais pas effacés mais révoqués. Mais une critique *constructive* aurait pu m'expliquer en quoi cette action était absurde ; je ne vois pas

Authentification webmail

2014-12-11 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Bonjour à tous, Pour diverses raisons, j'ai un serveur de mail personnel qui fonctionne parfaitement avec courrier (imaps/pop3s), sendmail et procmail. Cette machine tourne en jessie à jour. Lorsque je suis en déplacement, j'utilise au choix squirrelmail (connexion lente) ou

Re: Authentification webmail

2014-12-11 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014 à 11:38, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : Depuis une mise à jour récente, alors que le serveur de mail continue à parfaitement fonctionner, je suis devenu incapable de me connecter aux webmails. L'authentification échoue. J'avoue ne plus savoir où chercher.

Re: Authentification webmail

2014-12-11 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Bonjour, Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014 à 11:38, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : Depuis une mise à jour récente, alors que le serveur de mail continue à parfaitement fonctionner, je suis devenu incapable de me connecter aux webmails. L'authentification échoue. J'avoue ne

Re: Authentification webmail

2014-12-11 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014 à 13:29, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Bonjour, Le jeudi 11 décembre 2014 à 11:38, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : Depuis une mise à jour récente, alors que le serveur de mail continue à parfaitement fonctionner, je suis devenu incapable de me

Re: Authentification webmail

2014-12-11 Thread andre_debian
On Thursday 11 December 2014 13:29:49 BERTRAND Joël wrote: Pour roundcube, j'ai ceci : Dec 11 13:23:37 rayleigh imapd-ssl: couriertls: accept: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca On dirait un problème de protocole SSL dans imapd-ssl. Un fichier de conf,

Re: Authentification webmail

2014-12-11 Thread BERTRAND Joël
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Thursday 11 December 2014 13:29:49 BERTRAND Joël wrote: Pour roundcube, j'ai ceci : Dec 11 13:23:37 rayleigh imapd-ssl: couriertls: accept: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca On dirait un problème de protocole

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-11 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 8 décembre 2014, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Mon, 08 Dec 2014 20:20:43 +0100 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org a écrit: Alain Rpnpif a écrit : Donc il y a bien 770 Mo de différence. Je ne pense pas que cela vienne du noyau, free en tient compte (À Belaïd). Moi non

Re: Resolu : sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-11 Thread moi-meme
Le Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:50:03 +0100, JF Straeten a écrit : partclone n'est pas mal du tout non plus pour ce genre de cas ; il ne copie que les blocs utilisés, ce qui réduit la taille de l'image, et on peut encore la compresser en la passant à gzip. c'est sans doute intéressant mais pour faire

Re: Resolu : sauvegarde fichiers

2014-12-11 Thread moi-meme
Le Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:40:01 +0100, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Ah ben dans ce cas, tu aurais pu tout simplement faire une image complète de ton disque : dd if=/dev/sda of=/le/chemin/vers/le/nas/nom_fichier_image oui mais la copie est figée. Au besoin je peux la zipper. pour le passage en

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Alain Rpnpif a écrit : Voici les log de dmesg. Memory: 3142476K/3347912K available (5426K kernel code, 936K rwdata, 1824K rodata, 1204K init, 840K bss, 205436K reserved) ... radeon :00:01.0: VRAM: 768M 0x - 0x2FFF (768M used) (...) Cela semble bien être la

Re: Debian ne voit pas toute la mémoire RAM

2014-12-11 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 11 décembre 2014, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Alain Rpnpif a écrit : Voici les log de dmesg. Memory: 3142476K/3347912K available (5426K kernel code, 936K rwdata, 1824K rodata, 1204K init, 840K bss, 205436K reserved) ... radeon :00:01.0: VRAM: 768M 0x -

Re: una de wheeze

2014-12-11 Thread Manolo Díaz
El jueves, 11 dic 2014, a las 00:04 horas (UTC+1), Gustavo Castro escribió: instalar con que, aptitude, dpkg, apt-get, apt, ya actualizaste? Todas esas utilidades que mencionas usan finalmente dpkg. Si falla esta última poco importa cuál uses. Y, por favor, dejad de responder encima. Es

Re: Donde estudiar Debian para obtener la certificación LPI?

2014-12-11 Thread Pablo
2014-12-11 1:48 GMT-03:00 Gustavo Vega gnv...@gmail.com: Antes que nada perdón por usar la lista por asuntos de esta índole. Quiero hacer un curso de Linux y obtener la certificación LPIC-1 y LPIC-2. Estoy entre Linux College ( http://www.linuxcollege.com.ar/index.htm ) y CLA (

Re: una de wheeze

2014-12-11 Thread ricky gutierrez
El día 11 de diciembre de 2014, 3:07, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: Todas esas utilidades que mencionas usan finalmente dpkg. Si falla esta última poco importa cuál uses. la verdad es que esta instalacion es fresca y quiero instalar el java en wheeze , cuando lo trato de instalar

Re: Filtros en apache 2.4 en vhost

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:30:57 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: (ese html...) Hola buenas, quiero realizar un filtro en apache pero no se si realmente se puede. Por ejemplo esta url: https://www.example.com Quiero que si se le pasa un parámetro, devuelva la pagina bien:

Re: una de wheeze

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:59:52 -0600, ricky gutierrez escribió: señores tengo un debian 7.7 , y cada que quiero instalar un paquete me sale : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) he googleado , pero no encuentro nada relacionado a wheeze El error no es exclusivo de

[OT] Re: Donde estudiar Debian para obtener la certificación LPI?

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 01:48:58 -0300, Gustavo Vega escribió: (ese html...) Antes que nada perdón por usar la lista por asuntos de esta índole. Pues le pones un OT y listo ;-) Quiero hacer un curso de Linux y obtener la certificación LPIC-1 y LPIC-2. (...) ¿Y qué relación le ves a esas

RE: Donde estudiar Debian para obtener la certificación LPI?

2014-12-11 Thread Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez
TE podria servir los cursos de Youtube: Basico: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLcPK3h0D7B6VltdexP0Og3HSj9y9t8d Medio: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLcPK3h0D7AHB-Tyvu6kHF9jyXDiXqaJ FRANK HARBEY SANABRIA FLOREZTecnologo en Telecomunicaciones y Sistemas Bogota -

Re: una de wheeze

2014-12-11 Thread Gustavo Castro
no estoy entendiendo de donde sacas ese java8? que repositorio te lo esta dando, los de debian no lo tiene? o es un archivo que descargastes? ese archivo no tiene extencion .sh? si es asi la instalacion no se hace de esa manera ./oracle-java8-installer si es de extensión .deb usa dpkg dpkg

Re: una de wheeze

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:30:07 -0600, ricky gutierrez escribió: El día 11 de diciembre de 2014, 3:07, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: Todas esas utilidades que mencionas usan finalmente dpkg. Si falla esta última poco importa cuál uses. la verdad es que esta instalacion es

fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread AbeL
Hola Comunidad, para preguntarles de algun FAQ para poder instalar el driver privativo para mi laptop, el modelo de mi tarjeta es Radeon HD 7310 y estoy usando Debian Jessie. (fglrx). He intentado instalarlo pero siempre me marca error el xorg de screens not found y de ahi no paso, en stable hice

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:39:36 -0600, AbeL escribió: (ese html...) Hola Comunidad, para preguntarles de algun FAQ para poder instalar el driver privativo para mi laptop, el modelo de mi tarjeta es Radeon HD 7310 y estoy usando Debian Jessie. (fglrx). He intentado instalarlo pero siempre me

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread AbeL
Gracias por la pronta respuesta, de hecho te comento que he instalado los 2 drivers, el que viene en los repositorios, e incluso el del fabricante, pero en ambos me manda error. no se si alguien haya instalado el driver en Debian Jessie? Saludos. 2014-12-11 11:00 GMT-06:00 Camaleón

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:05:30 -0600, AbeL escribió: (corrijo el html y el top-posting) 2014-12-11 11:00 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:39:36 -0600, AbeL escribió: (ese html...) Hola Comunidad, para preguntarles de algun FAQ para poder instalar el driver

Re: Donde estudiar Debian para obtener la certificación LPI?

2014-12-11 Thread Felix Perez
El día 11 de diciembre de 2014, 11:59, Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez franksanab...@live.com.co escribió: TE podria servir los cursos de Youtube: Basico: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLcPK3h0D7B6VltdexP0Og3HSj9y9t8d Medio:

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread AbeL
http://pastebin.com/nUWWxGAX Te envio el error que manda al escribir $fglrxinfo y el xorg.con Saludos 2014-12-11 11:17 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:05:30 -0600, AbeL escribió: (corrijo el html y el top-posting) 2014-12-11 11:00 GMT-06:00 Camaleón

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread AbeL
Hola de nuevo, esta completo, pero te lo paso de nuevo http://pastebin.com/kKP0LMwX ese xorg fue el que me creo el #aticonfig --initial Saludos 2014-12-11 12:16 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:44:44 -0600, AbeL escribió: Sigues enviando los mensajes en formato

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:44:44 -0600, AbeL escribió: Sigues enviando los mensajes en formato HTML y haciendo top-posting ¿por algún motivo ? :-) 2014-12-11 11:17 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: (...) Gracias por la pronta respuesta, de hecho te comento que he instalado los 2

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:23:19 -0600, AbeL escribió: Estooo, ¿sabes cómo enviar mensajes en formato texto plano? ¿y cómo responder *debajo* de los mensajes? ¿? 2014-12-11 12:16 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: (...) Sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

alguien trabajo con ffmpeg?

2014-12-11 Thread Juan Carlos Rebate
hola para quienes me recuerden soy quien preguntó como crear un repo con dpkg-scanpackages, bueno ese tema lo dejé por imposible ya que no funciona y no hay nada de info al respecto, esto lo quise haer porque apt no resuelve bien las dependencias a la hora de querer instalar amano toda la suite

OT: Turla linux Debian

2014-12-11 Thread Ricardo Delgado
encontre en la web esta noticia http://www.muylinux.com/2014/12/10/turla-malware http://www.linux-party.com/index.php/57-seguridad/9241-linux-sufre-un-potente-troyano-turla-que-ha-infectado-gran-numero-de-victimas pero nada especifico de como actua y que acciones tomar al respecto; o simplemente

Re: fglrx-driver

2014-12-11 Thread AbeL
Una disculpa, entendi mal lo que tenia que subir, pero aqui va todo: http://pastebin.com/ZaArCEkq Gracias y Saludos. 2014-12-11 12:27 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:23:19 -0600, AbeL escribió: Estooo, ¿sabes cómo enviar mensajes en formato texto plano? ¿y

Re: OT: Turla linux Debian

2014-12-11 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 11-12-2014 a las 16:14 -0300, Ricardo Delgado escribió: encontre en la web esta noticia http://www.muylinux.com/2014/12/10/turla-malware http://www.linux-party.com/index.php/57-seguridad/9241-linux-sufre-un-potente-troyano-turla-que-ha-infectado-gran-numero-de-victimas pero nada

Re: OT: Turla linux Debian

2014-12-11 Thread Manolo Díaz
El jueves, 11 dic 2014, a las 21:34 horas (UTC+1), Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El jue, 11-12-2014 a las 16:14 -0300, Ricardo Delgado escribió: encontre en la web esta noticia http://www.muylinux.com/2014/12/10/turla-malware

Libc 6

2014-12-11 Thread María Rosa ☸
Hola lista: Vuelvo de nuevo a molestar porque Debian/Android me está dando dolor de cabeza. Tengo el bin para instalar el NDK tools para tener la arm correcta para mi celular. Pero no la puedo instalar, me faltan librerías, que creo son experimentales: Cuando quiero ejecutar el dicho programa, la

Re: una de wheeze

2014-12-11 Thread Miguel Matos
El día 11 de diciembre de 2014, 10:49, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:30:07 -0600, ricky gutierrez escribió: El día 11 de diciembre de 2014, 3:07, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: Todas esas utilidades que mencionas usan finalmente dpkg. Si falla esta

Re: Libc 6

2014-12-11 Thread María Rosa ☸
2014-12-11 20:15 GMT-03:00 María Rosa ☸ abdem...@gmail.com: Hola lista: Vuelvo de nuevo a molestar porque Debian/Android me está dando dolor de cabeza. Tengo el bin para instalar el NDK tools para tener la arm correcta para mi celular. Pero no la puedo instalar, me faltan librerías, que creo

Re: una de wheeze

2014-12-11 Thread Miguel Matos
El día 11 de diciembre de 2014, 20:21, Gustavo Castro g...@esdebian.org escribió: Usar repositorios de ubuntu en debian pues no es muy conveniente, aunque ubuntu tenga raíces las tenga en debian puede causarte problemas saludos El 11/12/14 a las #4, Miguel Matos escribió: ¡AHHH, con qué

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 11 December 2014 07:22:07 Bret Busby wrote: Hence, is the term, in the context that it has been otherwise used in this thread, to refer instead, to multi-user computers, not a malapropism? The original term may or may not have been a malapropism. Let us not get into that. But it

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 11/12/2014, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2014 07:22:07 Bret Busby wrote: Hence, is the term, in the context that it has been otherwise used in this thread, to refer instead, to multi-user computers, not a malapropism? The original term may or may not have

Re: GNU Barcodes

2014-12-11 Thread Johann Klammer
On 12/11/2014 08:10 AM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - I wish to be able to print a barcode .5 inches from top of the page and centered. I generate the barcode - yes 12345 | head -84 | barcode -p 5x5.0cm -umm -e CODE39 test.ps; and print - lpr -o media=letter -#1 -P LJ1012

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Christian Groessler writes: ^C could be unresponsive nevertheless, the process being stuck in kernel space and thus completely oblivious of the signals thrown at it. This would be a different problem hinting at a kernel bug... Non necessarily a bug. We have to accept that exist

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Mart van de Wege
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know if it was 4 months ago or 7 months ago, and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the delay set to 172 days vs 194 days vs 98 days

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/11 3:48 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk: On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automatic fsck (there are several ways to do this), as I understand is

Re: GNU Barcodes

2014-12-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 01:54:08AM -0500, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - I wish to be able to print a barcode .5 inches from top of the page and centered. I generate the barcode - yes 12345 | head -84 | barcode -p 5x5.0cm -umm -e CODE39 test.ps; First of all, try viewing

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. I think at least some of the list subscribers would be grateful for your findings. Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 18:16:05, Joel Rees wrote: Odd. The last time I booted my wheezy-by-install system, it did an automatic fsck. I did nothing in particular to enable that. I think you are reading things into the documentation that you want to be there. Check filesystem creation date:

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 23:10:36, The Wanderer wrote: IOW, if version 2.2.4 of a program is packaged, and upstream releases version 2.3.0 after the freeze, it might be reasonable to stick with 2.2.4 in preparing testing for release - but if upstream releases 2.2.5 as a bugfix release for the 2.2.x

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-11 Thread B. M.
Le 11 déc. 2014 à 11:41, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com a écrit : On Mi, 10 dec 14, 23:10:36, The Wanderer wrote: IOW, if version 2.2.4 of a program is packaged, and upstream releases version 2.3.0 after the freeze, it might be reasonable to stick with 2.2.4 in preparing testing

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Reco
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 06:16:05PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/12/11 3:48 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk: On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time. What if I do not have that time, Find it (this includes planning - of infrastructure and procedures if required). Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to do some work just before boarding a plane is now at risk. Just

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Ron
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:07:21 +0100 Mart van de Wege mvdw...@gmail.com wrote: This is like all those people who first moved to Ubuntu back in the day, complaining about not being able to login as root. And how do you keep a multi-user box safe if any user can sudo ? Cheers, Ron. --

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. I just thought of a different approach, using the fact that one can manipulate the Maximum mount count without

Re: VPN IPSec (Cisco vpnc)

2014-12-11 Thread Frédéric Marchal
2014-12-11 8:04 GMT+01:00 Hajder Rabiee hajd...@gmail.com: Hi Trying to connect to VPN at work but keep getting: vpnc: no response from target. I have created my vpn.conf in /etc/vpnc/myconf.conf and also added Local Port 1 as I've read some posts that the particular error message might

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Read
On 11/12/14 07:34, B. M. wrote: Le 11 déc. 2014 à 05:10, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm a écrit : I understood him as asking why freeze testing with a version which excludes the latest bug fixes, when a newer version which includes them is available. This is not the same as asking why freeze

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 12:03:40, B. M. wrote: So it depends on the maintainer? Not only. Is there any public information about how a certain maintainer thinks about / handles that? I'd be searching the archives of: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk

RE: C++ compiler g++-4.9

2014-12-11 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, On 12/10/2014 01:23 PM, Nick Mpallas wrote: I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources. The issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian aren't there. Will the g++ compiler

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread Marty
On 12/11/2014 02:02 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 10 December 2014 18:08:00 Martin Read wrote: On 10/12/14 13:26, Marty wrote: The industry and its plans for FOSS is strongly anti-choice: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.h tml It appears to me that

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 10:53:07 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Let fsck run and pray it does not halts claiming it can't fix the problem. When it is started due to an unclean shutdown or something like it, we can plan. When it simply runs because it does that sometimes, no thank you, I would

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread claude juif
2014-12-11 13:41 GMT+01:00 Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com: On 12/11/2014 02:02 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 10 December 2014 18:08:00 Martin Read wrote: On 10/12/14 13:26, Marty wrote: The industry and its plans for FOSS is strongly anti-choice:

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Bonno Bloksma writes: Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to do some work just before boarding a plane is now at risk. Just before boarding some plane is the bad time and place for some work. Just had to help someone this morning who had Windows 7 doing updates when

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 14:22:59 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20141210_1830+, Brian wrote: On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automatic

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination. The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt various long-running operations (typically waiting for an event) during boot. Stefan --

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jape Person
On 12/11/2014 05:09 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. I think at least some of the list subscribers would be grateful for

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
There is a sort of half-way house, whereby a second user can login to a workstation without the first user logging out, but the same keyboard and screen are used and the first user cannot do anything while the second user has control. I don't know how commonly used this is, Windows has had it

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jape Person
On 12/11/2014 05:57 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. I just thought of a different approach, using the fact that one can

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Stefan Monnier writes: users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination. The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt various long-running operations (typically waiting for an event)

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:55:13, Bob Proulx wrote: When Testing is released as Stable a new name will be chosen for the next release and that new name will become Testing. Minor nitpick: the names are already known, the release after Jessie will be Stretch and then next one Buster.

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Bret Busby wrote: Surely, it would have all been so much simpler, if the original poster in the thread, had put the question To what personal uses, do people put their computers?. What correlation need there be between *simple* questions and *useful* answers? The OP correctly phrased the

Re: How is typical home computer used today? (back to original question)

2014-12-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Richard Owlett wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Surely, it would have all been so much simpler, if the original poster in the thread, had put the question To what personal uses, do people put their computers?. What correlation need there be between *simple* questions and *useful* answers? The OP

Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-11 Thread peter
A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450 adapter. Both monitors display the command line interface. With X running, the monitor on output 1 is active; the monitor on output 2 indicates absence of signal. If the monitors are swapped across the output connectors,

Re: how do I locate all the pictures on an Android phone?

2014-12-11 Thread Andre N Batista
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:05:13PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 system. Last night I took some pictures and tried my usual method of downloading - I plugged in the phone through USB and selecting File Manager when the notification window popped up. Navigating to

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:51:23 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:07:21 +0100 Mart van de Wege mvdw...@gmail.com wrote: This is like all those people who first moved to Ubuntu back in the day, complaining about not being able to

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit : On 12/08/2014 10:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit : I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on modular-debian but I

Re: how do I locate all the pictures on an Android phone?

2014-12-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 02:32:18PM -0200, Andre N Batista wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:05:13PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 system. Last night I took some pictures and tried my usual method of downloading - I plugged in the phone through USB and selecting

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.12.2014 21:34, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote: What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been told. Most likely Proof of Concept. Yes. By PoC I mean a small set of program/library which demonstrates that something is

Re: Two monitors on a Matrox G450.

2014-12-11 Thread Sven Hartge
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450 adapter. Both monitors display the command line interface. With X running, the monitor on output 1 is active; the monitor on output 2 indicates absence of signal. If the monitors are swapped

Re: How is typical home computer used today? (back to original question)

2014-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Miles Fidelman wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Surely, it would have all been so much simpler, if the original poster in the thread, had put the question To what personal uses, do people put their computers?. What correlation need there be between *simple* questions and

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination. The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt various long-running operations (typically waiting for an event) during boot. But some

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [snip] Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not *BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactOS...) which wants to build a single user system. Can't remember the name, I only

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/11/2014 5:53 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time. What if I do not have that time, Find it (this includes planning - of infrastructure and procedures if required). Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to do some work just

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote: The OP correctly phrased the question as How is typical home computer used today? As I'm the OP, I should know. GRIN If we had trouble understanding it, then you did *NOT* correctly phrase the question. And you have *STILL* not said

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: If Windows can give you the option as to when to perform a potentially critical (do not shut down!) and long running process, why can't Linux? As far as having the option of an fsck at boot is concerned I've already mentioned grub's

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Stefan Monnier wrote: There is a sort of half-way house, whereby a second user can login to a workstation without the first user logging out, but the same keyboard and screen are used and the first user cannot do anything while the second user has control. I don't know how commonly used this is,

Re: VPN IPSec (Cisco vpnc)

2014-12-11 Thread Hajder Rabiee
Ok thank you for your reply. I'll have a second round with the IT admins. The question remains if the pre shared key is the same as the group password? If not, how is it specified in vpnc? On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Frédéric Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote:

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK

Re: VPN IPSec (Cisco vpnc)

2014-12-11 Thread Mike McGinn
Here are the fields in my default.conf for vpnc and what I use them for: IPSec gateway this is the IP you use to access the vpn IPSec IDwe use this as the ID for the company. IPSec secretthis is the key Xauth username

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Ron
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:52:22 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Well, let's not forget these other common(?) uses of home computers: - file/print server - media server - probably headless, accessed via browser on a tablet or smartphone - remote access from tablet or

How to print duplex when using lpr

2014-12-11 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I sometimes use lpr in a pipeline getting postscript from groff. My printer (HP CP2025dn) has a duplexer and I'd like to use it. I could look up the Postscript for that, but I'm wondering if there's a way to force either of groff or lpr to do it for me. -- Kevin O'Gorman #define QUESTION ((bb)

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote: On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: If Windows can give you the option as to when to perform a potentially critical (do not shut down!) and long running process, why can't Linux? As far as having the option of an fsck at boot is

Re: How to print duplex when using lpr

2014-12-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 11:14:23 -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I sometimes use lpr in a pipeline getting postscript from groff. My printer (HP CP2025dn) has a duplexer and I'd like to use it. I could look up the Postscript for that, but I'm wondering if there's a way to force either of groff

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread Martin Read
On 11/12/14 17:21, Richard Owlett wrote: There is a market (how large???) for a single user single task computer and OS. It's very large indeed! Apple, and the various customers (e.g. Samsung, LG, HTC) of Google and Microsoft, are quite enthusiastic about selling devices that (superficially)

Re: How to print duplex when using lpr

2014-12-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I sometimes use lpr in a pipeline getting postscript from groff. My printer (HP CP2025dn) has a duplexer and I'd like to use it. I could look up the Postscript for that, but I'm wondering if there's a way to force either of groff or lpr to do it for

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/11/2014 01:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote: So much metaphorical male ovine faeces. And, that is not directed at Lisi; just at the people trying to impose their dubious opinions and classifications, of what is, and, what has been, and, of what should be. Do you suppose Debian has become refuge

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/11/2014 11:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Well... this model is still very used in enterprises. I do not speak about those old mainframes which are still bought by very huge corporations (at least, I've heard so) Huh? :D Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 14:02:52 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote: For less work to set up than the previous method you want to take a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799574 To which Lennart responded that is not a good idea.

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Joe
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:38:29 -0500 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2014 01:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote: So much metaphorical male ovine faeces. And, that is not directed at Lisi; just at the people trying to impose their dubious opinions and classifications, of what is,

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote: The OP correctly phrased the question as How is typical home computer used today? As I'm the OP, I should know. GRIN If we had trouble understanding it, then you did *NOT* correctly phrase the question. And you

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:23:10 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: snip The root of my sid install was created before that, so I was still getting the periodic check for it. The other ext4 filesystems were newer, so weren't checked (and I didn't even notice it). I've just disabled the automatic

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