Re: Jessie live booting at 32 bit uefi PC ?

Hi, Hyeonjin Oh wrote: > Is jessie live possible to boot at 32 bit uefi PC ? Only via "legacy" BIOS emulation. Inspection of http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.4.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.4.0-i386-standard.iso shows that there are only boot entries which lure PC-BIO

Jessie live booting at 32 bit uefi PC ?

Thanks a lot, Debian team. I have a question below. Is jessie live possible to boot at 32 bit uefi PC ? (Most tablet with baytrail CPU is only supporting 32 bit uefi boot)

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> About reliability - I have not seen recently undelivered mails (except >> bounces between gmain and yahoo . > > Lucky you! > > Lisi Luck is something, that is out of scope in terms of software. Use authorized SMTP servers. This means you can not install on your linux box

Re: Mount /tmp on tmpfs jessie and stretch -- howto?

On Aug 30, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I would like in my jessie and stretch boxes (one of each, both with > systemd) to mount /tmp on tmpfs instead of a hard drive partition tmp > or /dev/mapper/SOL1-tmp. I assumed that to do so I c

Mount /tmp on tmpfs jessie and stretch -- howto?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would like in my jessie and stretch boxes (one of each, both with systemd) to mount /tmp on tmpfs instead of a hard drive partition tmp or /dev/mapper/SOL1-tmp. I assumed that to do so I could not have either of those partitions; so I unmounted them

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Wednesday 31 August 2016 00:34:47 Brian wrote: > > I, too, have failed to email you, Brian, on one occasion recently. > > I used just the email address that is normally in your From: header. > > The address is valid and one I am entitled to use. However, it looks > like my ISP has fouled somethi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 22:24:04 Brian wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 22:09:51 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:26:45 Brian wrote: > > > > I tried to send this to you personally, by both routes readily > > > > available to me, but your email set-up kept rejecting it.  So

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 17:22:34 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 20:26:45 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 19:31:08 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > Just out of interest, why have you sent a personal copy of a reply to the > > > Debian list about an email of Dav

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 20:26:45 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 19:31:08 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Just out of interest, why have you sent a personal copy of a reply to the > > Debian list about an email of David Wright's to me, which is an irrelevant > > flouting of the code o

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 20:42:42 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:53:35 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 17:49:34 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:59:42 -0400 > > > Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 12:33:57 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 17:18:10 David Wright wrote: > > The unreliability of email is also overreported by people > > whose homework, years earlier, was eaten by their dog. > > Years ago I sent a Guaranteed Delivery Letter to our local Coun

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 22:09:51 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:26:45 Brian wrote: > > > I tried to send this to you personally, by both routes readily available > > > to me, but your email set-up kept rejecting it.  So here is my (mild) > > > protest publicly. ;-) > > > > W

Re: Security Updates

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:58:47 Larry Dighera wrote: > This page states: > > "If you use APT, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list to be > able to access the latest security updates: > > deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/upd

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:26:45 Brian wrote: > > I tried to send this to you personally, by both routes readily available > > to me, but your email set-up kept rejecting it.  So here is my (mild) > > protest publicly. ;-) > > What were the two readily available routes open to you? Which addresse

Re: Security Updates

On 8/30/16, Tim McDonough wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Larry Dighera wrote: >> >> This page states: >> >> "If you use APT, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list to >> be >> able >> to access the latest security updat

Re: Security Updates

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:58:47PM -0700, Larry Dighera wrote: > > This page states: > > "If you use APT, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list to be > able > to access the latest security updates: > > deb http://security.deb

Re: Security Updates

Your Raspberry Pi is most likely running Raspbian and not Debian. Raspbian's updates must be ported by their development team when Debian releases them. At one time they claimed the lag was about a half day to a day behind being released by Debian. Tim On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Larry Dighe

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:42:05 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 15:05:02 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 05:49:34PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:59:42 -0400 > > > Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 19:51:39 Brian wrote: > > So one large and dominating ISP is rejecting emails from an inconvenient, > > smaller, rival because there are "too many" of them. > > Don't follow this either. Because I had to snip the error message. I'll try reporting non-verbatim indirect s

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 19:51:39 Brian wrote: > But you allow Zen to determine the nature of > your mails? Since I haven't got my own server I have no choice but to accept it if whatever SMTP server I am using simply rejects the email and refuses to send it. This is the first time it has happ

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:05:02 -0400 Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > You have a much too simplistic view of todays anti-spam measures. > > If an smtp server tries to deliver a messages, usually the first the > receiving server does, during the helo, checking if the sending > server is blackli

Security Updates

This page states: "If you use APT, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list to be able to access the latest security updates: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free After that, run apt-get updat

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:53:35 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 17:49:34 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:59:42 -0400 > > Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Mo

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 15:05:02 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 05:49:34PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:59:42 -0400 > > Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 19:31:08 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Just out of interest, why have you sent a personal copy of a reply to the > Debian list about an email of David Wright's to me, which is an irrelevant > flouting of the code of conduct rules??? ;-) It's not like you Brian to make > Huma

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 05:49:34PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:59:42 -0400 > Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > "shocked that anyone would want to design

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 19:16:10 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 18:50:21 deloptes wrote: > > I have not seen recently undelivered mails > > Lucky you! Not luck, it's good management. Receiving SMTP servers accept messages which are RFC compliant. If they do not they are playi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

Just out of interest, why have you sent a personal copy of a reply to the Debian list about an email of David Wright's to me, which is an irrelevant flouting of the code of conduct rules??? ;-) It's not like you Brian to make Human Errors. ;-) Lisi I tried to send this to you personally, by b

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 15:09:28 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:59:42 Henning Follmann wrote: > > However, why email is still reliable, because a proper setup provides you > > with a well defined error messages (in case it is not delivered). > > We have different definition

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

> About reliability - I have not seen recently undelivered mails (except > bounces between gmain and yahoo . Lucky you! Lisi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 18:50:21 deloptes wrote: > I have not seen recently undelivered mails Lucky you! [had to snip quotation from rejecting notification because Zen identified the email as spam!!] So one large and dominating ISP is rejecting emails from an inconvenient, smaller, rival bec

Re: Reuniting disks in a raid1 array

Le 30/08/2016 à 12:14, Mirko Parthey a écrit : On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 07:33:02AM +0200, Frédéric Marchal wrote: Do I have to wipe sdb before adding it to the new computer? If so, how do I make sure raid data is gone from every one of the three partitions? The wipefs tool can remove RAID sign

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 19:50:21 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Thinking about Lizi's story and the postman ... where is in > the "decentralized" scenario the "postman", how does he look like ... etc. He looks just like you.

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 17:49:34 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:59:42 -0400 > Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > "shocked that anyone would want to design or

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 16:34:25 Dan Purgert wrote: >> Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> >> "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an >> >> unreliable messaging system" >> > >> > Email is getting less and less reliabl

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 11:18:10 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 09:59:42 (-0400), Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > However, why email is still reliable, because a proper setup provides you > > with a well defined error messages (in case it is not delivered). > > There are occasi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:59:42 -0400 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an > > >                 unreliable messaging system" >

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 17:18:10 David Wright wrote: > The unreliability of email is also overreported by people > whose homework, years earlier, was eaten by their dog. Years ago I sent a Guaranteed Delivery Letter to our local Council. They claimed not to have received it. As it was very im

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 09:59:42 (-0400), Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an > > >                 unreliable messaging system" > >

Re: nosh version 1.28

Thank you very much. And have a blessed day. On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard < j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I don't know why you asked about FreeBSD rc.d just on the Debian mailing > list; but I'm going to deal in both of those and others besides,

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 16:34:25 Dan Purgert wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an > >>                 unreliable messaging system" > > > > Email is getting less and less reliable, so have

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an >>                 unreliable messaging system" > > Email is getting less and less reliable, so have you given up using it?? :-( > > Lisi Email (according to the RFCs)

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 09:59:42 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an > > >                 unreliable messaging system" > > > >

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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:59:42 Henning Follmann wrote: > However, why email is still reliable, because a proper setup provides you > with a well defined error messages (in case it is not delivered). We have different definitions of reliable!! Being told a day or two later that your email did

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 02:52:14PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an > >                 unreliable messaging system" > > Email is getting less and less reliable, so have you given up using it

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 14:05:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an >                 unreliable messaging system" Email is getting less and less reliable, so have you given up using it?? :-( Lisi

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

> You can't have all the best together. What does that mean, exactly? Are you saying it doesn't have reliable message delivery? If so, that'd be a deal breaker for me. Stefan "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an unreliable messaging system" > This menti

Re: Reuniting disks in a raid1 array

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 07:33:02AM +0200, Frédéric Marchal wrote: > I had two disks in a mdadm software raid1 on an old computer. > > I moved sda to a new computer. It ran there in a degraded raid1 for months. > > The second disk, sdb, kept running as the lone survivor of the original raid1 > on

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

You can't have all the best together. This mention in previous E-Mails as well. E.g: <20160817192400.GB9964@alum> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I think you looking for TOX! > > Visit TOX Project website: > > https://tox.chat > > Thanks. That does look promising (alt

Re: Reuniting disks in a raid1 array

On Tuesday 30 August 2016 11:32:55 Lars Noodén wrote: > On 08/30/2016 08:33 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: > >... > > > > Now, it's time for the old computer to retire and sdb to join its partner > > in the new raid1 on the new computer. > > > > How can I do this safely? > > Here is what I did when

Re: Reuniting disks in a raid1 array

> On 08/30/2016 08:33 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: >> How can I do this safely? PS. It goes without saying, and thus I forgot to say it, but start this by making a fresh backup of your new system. Preferably you have multiple, older backups around, too, and not just one. Sorry if that's obvious

Re: Reuniting disks in a raid1 array

On 08/30/2016 08:33 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote: >... > Now, it's time for the old computer to retire and sdb to join its partner in > the new raid1 on the new computer. > > How can I do this safely? Here is what I did when I restored a drive to a RAID 1 array. I'm not an expert, so you'll want

Re: USB Drive "The location could not be displayed"

On 29 August 2016 at 20:20, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > > > I tried changing permissions of /media. Not solved. > > an NTFS partition was not mountable unless dismounted from the automatic > mount point; as far as I can see, this is not the case for vfat or ext4 > partitions. > > I did copy a udev