Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:48 AM, somebody wrote, off list: (I'm not sure why you sent it off-list, but I want to respond on-list. > On 04/10/2017 08:08 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > >> What we needed was probably for a group like Canonical to have funded >> development of several alternative services

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On 4/10/17 9:32 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/10/2017 09:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: Does that mean systemd is the ideal replacement? No. Systemd has these overreaching tendrils in places it's got no business sticking tendrils. Why does it have its own ntp daemon? Why does it implement file

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On 04/10/2017 09:37 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: Does that mean systemd is the ideal replacement? No. Systemd has these overreaching tendrils in places it's got no business sticking tendrils. Why does it have its own ntp daemon? Why does it implement file system automount behavior? These things

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On 04/08/2017 01:06 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: 'They' never told us, owners of single user laptops, why we should chose it. Simple, as I see it, single user laptop support doesn't pay the bills. Neither do Desktops. Ubuntu found that one out, for all of their user friendly features. When Red

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : >> > Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The >> > process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and >> > adopts all

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : >> SysV init is broken because it has no process monitoring? No. >> Process monitoring isn't in its scope. > > Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 08:41:28AM +0100, Joe wrote: >> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I run sid and see things come and >> go. Didn't we have this: >> >> https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts >> >>long

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 20:40 (UTC): Felix Miata composed: Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum: Debian Mailing Lists debian-user Community assistance and support for Debian users. Support for Debian users who speak English.

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Has Debian always been this crazy and am I so new to this madness? TRUE

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

songbird wrote: > did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log? I doubt he does know about it

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

Please excuse the intrusion, on another thread Felix Miata says: Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie > Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum: > For bug fixes and policy modifications debian-user is the wrong place > for more than

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC): > >> you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that >> I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is >> unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed >> of listed

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 04:32:51PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The > > > process with PID one is the only immortal

Re: system drive encryption question

Le 10/04/2017 à 10:26, Nathanael Schweers a écrit : Pascal Hambourg writes: The procedure in the post you point to is flawed in Debian Jessie (...) I never said that it works on debian. Don't misunderstand me : the procedure works with a minor adjustment, so your

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 14:32 (UTC): you are responding technically in solving a technical problem that I presented. For this I thank you. What I am now saying is that it is unacceptable as a practice. At least there should be a patch installed of listed unsupported hardware that

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The > > process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and > > adopts all orphan processes. For that reason, any kind of process > > monitoring, if it

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC): >> Felix Miata: >> Would this be IT? >>1 sudo nano /etc/default/grub >>2 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet iomem=relaxed" >>3 sudo update-grub > > It would be #1 below, the step to take after proving that iomem=relaxed > is necessary

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 04:13:48PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > SysV init is broken because it has no process monitoring? No. > > Process monitoring isn't in its scope. > > Your other

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On 4/10/17 2:07 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:39:50 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy servers than a desktop box or notebook with just one

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > SysV init is broken because it has no process monitoring? No. > Process monitoring isn't in its scope. Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system,

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 09:37:00AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 08:41:28AM +0100, Joe wrote: > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I run sid and see things come and > > go. Didn't we have this: > > > >

Re: oom-killer no funciona como debería.

El día 10 de abril de 2017, 6:31, luis gil escribió: > Hola Santiago. Lo primero gracias por responder. Antes de que respondieras, > ya había cambiado el overcommit_memory a 2 con el ratio a 75. Te comento > dentro de tu correo: > > El 8 de abril de 2017, 13:52,

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 08:41:28AM +0100, Joe wrote: > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I run sid and see things come and > go. Didn't we have this: > > https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts > >long before systemd? This and start-stop-daemon and probably a few other things are all

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-10 10:18 (UTC): Felix Miata: GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC): Felix Miata composed: IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver to work with your

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Re: Copying file has unexpected side effect

On 04/09/2017 02:40 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: On 04/09/2017 10:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Re-inserting _*CRITICAL_ critical information from 1st post I have a laptop with multiple installs of Debian Jessie using MATE desktop. There are minor differences of

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847154 > * From Linux 4.8, several changes have been made in the kernel > configuration to 'harden' the system, i.e. to mitigate security bugs. > Some changes may cause legitimate applications to fail, and can be > reverted by

Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok on Jessie

Felix Miata: > GiaThnYgeia composed on 2017-04-09 15:16 (UTC): > >> Felix Miata composed: > >>> IOW, it is suggested that iomem=relaxed may need to be included on >>> kernel cmdline for the old user-space xserver-xorg-video-savage driver >>> to work with your gfxchip in Stretch. > >> Thank you

Re: oom-killer no funciona como debería.

Hola Santiago. Lo primero gracias por responder. Antes de que respondieras, ya había cambiado el overcommit_memory a 2 con el ratio a 75. Te comento dentro de tu correo: El 8 de abril de 2017, 13:52, Santiago Vila escribió: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 11:49:18PM +0200, luis gil

Re: system drive encryption question

Pascal Hambourg writes: > The version of GRUB included in Jessie at least can handle an encrypted > /boot. However the Debian installer does not handle this case correctly. > You must add the following line in /etc/default/grub in order for > grub-install to install

Re: how to force mysql to use the name of my machine instead of localhost

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 07:51:56 +0100 Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > My machine has another name than localhost like lite.bela.umbb, > when I install mysql, it always takes the the localhost as the name > of the machine. this yields in a problem for me, when I use for >

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 11:07:13PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:39:50 -0400 Miles Fidelman > wrote: > > > On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > After much reading, I consider systemd

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My machine has another name than localhost like lite.bela.umbb, when I install mysql, it always takes the the localhost as the name of the machine. this yields in a problem for me, when I use for example wordpress and I want a remote connection. because the localhost stored in DB is irrelevant

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:39:50 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy > > servers than a desktop box or notebook with just one user. It's > > like being forced to