Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Teemu Likonen
John Hasler [2017-06-07 10:30:54-05] wrote: > Remove Ntp and install Chrony. Or remove both of those and run: sudo timedatectl set-ntp true And that's about it. -- /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. // // PGP: 4E10 55DC 84E9 DFF6 13D7 8557 719D 69D3 2453 9450 ///

Debian installation issues

2017-06-07 Thread David DLC
Hello, I have been trying to install Debian Jessie for about a week now. I have a 64-bit Windows 10 PC. I have shrunk the main C drive by 25 gbs, and turned off fast boot. I downloaded the AMD-64 small CD iso, and used win32 disk imager to write it to a 2 gb usb stick. However, when I boot my comp

Re: Install Debian 8.8.0/XFCE on32 bit system

2017-06-07 Thread David Wright
On Sun 04 Jun 2017 at 13:14:42 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2017-06-04 11:19 (UTC-0500): > ... > > But you're unusual in working in this area, so unlike most of us > > you're going to have a dedicated tool available; in fact you work > > on it I see. > > I'm not sure what

Re: FOSS-friendly Wireless Access Point (WAP) for SOHO network?

2017-06-07 Thread David Christensen
On 06/05/2017 07:14 PM, David Christensen wrote: I am looking for a FOSS-friendly Wireless Access Point (WAP) ... Thanks everyone for the replies and information. I'll need to re-read everything, STFW, and mull it over. David

Re: pointers to material for using netbook's wireless as access point

2017-06-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 4:10 PM, didier gaumet wrote: >> Le 06/06/2017 à 03:58, Joel Rees a écrit : >> [...] >> can anyone point me to a good how-to? >> [...] >> >> these should do the trick: >> https://agentoss.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/creating-a

Re: watchdog did not stop (on rebooting)

2017-06-07 Thread RavenLX
On 06/07/2017 07:33 PM, Dekks Herton wrote: If you have a thinkpad and use tlp you can set the NMI watchdog to off in /etc/default/tlp I do have tlp installed. Here's what is in the file. Looks like it's already disabled: # Kernel NMI Watchdog: # 0=disable (default, saves power), 1=enable

Re: watchdog did not stop (on rebooting)

2017-06-07 Thread Dekks Herton
If you have a thinkpad and use tlp you can set the NMI watchdog to off in /etc/default/tlp also look at /proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog to see the state RavenLX writes: > I was trying to find a way to fix this warning on my Thinkpad. I have > found out that it is normal for this to happen and

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 10:54:26 Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: > >> I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry > >> for stretch. > >> > >> All the documentation I find

Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

2017-06-07 Thread Long Wind
Thank Greg Wooledge! I have created a new user, and the problem remain it mean the default setting does not work for the web site iceweasel in jessie really is firefox? it's strange that firefox for XP is ok with the site Thank Brian! On 6/8/17, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 0

Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 04:05:33AM +0800, Long Wind wrote: > On 6/8/17, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Why are you using Iceweasel? (You probably said, but I can't find it.) > iceweasel is debian's fork of firefox( which is popular)? > i want to use a popular browser > and i think iceweasel is a popular

Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

2017-06-07 Thread Brian
On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 04:05:33 +0800, Long Wind wrote: > On 6/8/17, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > Why are you using Iceweasel? (You probably said, but I can't find it.) > > > > Lisi > > iceweasel is debian's fork of firefox( which is popular)? > i want to use a popular browser > and i think icew

Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

2017-06-07 Thread Long Wind
On 6/8/17, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Why are you using Iceweasel? (You probably said, but I can't find it.) > > Lisi > > iceweasel is debian's fork of firefox( which is popular)? i want to use a popular browser and i think iceweasel is a popular one.

Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

2017-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 01:51:30 Long Wind wrote: > i can visit the web site with firefox 4 xp and android browser. the problem > is with iceweasel > > thanks anyway! > > On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, SDA wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:05AM +0800, Long Wind wrote: > > > Thank Thomas! > >

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian Acer One (tablet and laptop together) but always failed. I used debian-8.7.1-amd64-netinst.iso. Now we have debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso. Are you suggesting a different iso file

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Jim Ohlstein
Hello, On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 10:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: > > > I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry > > for stretch. > > > > All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the > file > > as: server 0

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Brian
On Wed 07 Jun 2017 at 10:30:54 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Remove Ntp and install Chrony. Too easy. There would be nothing to rant about. :) https://chrony.tuxfamily.org/comparison.html -- Brian.

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread John Hasler
Remove Ntp and install Chrony. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 07 Jun 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:54:26PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > As I understand it "server" will do name resolution once and pick an IP > > from the result. "pool" will periodically refresh the name and cycle to > > a different member of the pool. > >

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
Hey look, there's already a bug open: "ntp: Please document 'pool' in ntp.conf" Filed November 1, 2015. Except... it's not open. It's been closed. They sat on it for two years until the stretch freeze, and then "fixed" it in experimental. So we won't even get i

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Joshua Schaeffer
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I largely agree with Gene. The man pages are incredibly silly. They > don't tell you how to do the Most Basic Common Thing. Instead they > talk about "type s and r addresses" and "a preemptable association > is mobilized" and "mobilizes a

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:54:26PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for stretch. All the documentation I find says to list

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:54:26PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > As I understand it "server" will do name resolution once and pick an IP > from the result. "pool" will periodically refresh the name and cycle to > a different member of the pool. Really? Why isn't this documented? Is it simply urba

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Begin rant: > > From someone who is currently battling a fresh jessie install that didn't > even come with ntpdate installed, and which using the above format > in /etc/ntp.conf is still about 12 hours off on an rpi-3. The ntpdate

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for stretch. All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org server

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Kushal Kumaran
ray writes: > I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for > stretch. > > All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file as: > server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org > server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org > > An example source from 2017 is https://wiki.debian.org/DateTi

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 09:27:19 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:56:59AM -0700, ray wrote: > > The latest Debian doc says to start the line with 'server'. > > The latest Debian implementation starts the line with 'pool'. > > > > Are these interchangeable? > > > > Additionally,

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 June 2017 08:56:59 ray wrote: > I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry > for stretch. > > All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file > as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org > server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org > > An example source from 2017 is

watchdog did not stop (on rebooting)

2017-06-07 Thread RavenLX
I was trying to find a way to fix this warning on my Thinkpad. I have found out that it is normal for this to happen and can safely be ignored. Reference links: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=153205 https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/249654/message-at-shutdown-watchdog-did-no

Re: NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:56:59AM -0700, ray wrote: > The latest Debian doc says to start the line with 'server'. > The latest Debian implementation starts the line with 'pool'. > > Are these interchangeable? > > Additionally, there is a parameter 'iburst' which I did not find in the > Debian d

How To Fix: Firewire IRQ Errors on Reboot

2017-06-07 Thread RavenLX
I would like to share another discovery. This one fixed my firewire IRQ errors when rebooting my ThinkPad T61. (Not-So-Obligatory) Disclaimer: --- While, I do not notice any change in overall functionality of the laptop as a result of this fix, I also do not know wh

Re: HP CP1215 - CUPS not printing from Stretch to Jessie server.

2017-06-07 Thread Brian
On Tue 06 Jun 2017 at 18:44:55 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 05/06/17 10:03 AM, Brian wrote: > >On Sun 04 Jun 2017 at 20:37:38 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: [cups-browsed experiences snipped]. > >>Except that it doesn't seem to work that way. It's just the CP1215 that > >>needs to be set explicitly to

NTP.conf pool vs server

2017-06-07 Thread ray
I would like to know the correct syntax for entering a server entry for stretch. All the documentation I find says to list the ntp servers in the file as: server 0.XX.pool.ntp.org server 1.XX.pool.ntp.org An example source from 2017 is https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime When I open /etc/ntp.conf

How to Fix: tpm0 Errors on Boot (Stretch)

2017-06-07 Thread RavenLX
I thought I'd share a discovery with you guys in case anyone here happens to try using Stretch on a ThinkPad laptop. I have installed Stretch on mine and am testing things out. I don't know if this would resolve things on other computers, but maybe it might help in at least diagnosing some boot

Re: Automatic updating links?

2017-06-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 07:15:25PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Greg Wooledge writes: On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 06:41:03PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: But, I also need that, when renaming the target file, the link would automatically change its name so that it keeps equal to the target's name.

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-07 Thread Michael Lange
On Wed, 07 Jun 2017 09:33:01 +0100 Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > > Same problem also with this iso image: at the beginning the machine > seems to boot into the Debian Installer menu, but when I ent

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-07 Thread Michael Lange
On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 16:59:37 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote: > We've supported the wacky "64-bit platform, 32-bit UEFI" devices > (e.g. Bay Trail) ever since the first Jessie release. If you grab a > multi-arch netinst or DVD image, it will boot via 32-bit but let you > start a 64-bit installation an

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-07 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Pascal Hambourg writes: > Le 06/06/2017 à 19:58, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : >> Steve McIntyre writes: >> >>> We've supported the wacky "64-bit platform, 32-bit UEFI" devices >>> (e.g. Bay Trail) ever since the first Jessie release. If you grab a >>> multi-arch netinst or DVD image, it will boot vi

Re: switching flavors

2017-06-07 Thread SDA
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 08:57:40AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 04:55:01PM -0400, SDA wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 06:44:10PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:20:51 -0400 > > > SDA wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +1000, Davor Bal