best practices for a fresh install on a laptop

2017-07-30 Thread Daniel Pocock
Hi all, I've recently had discussions with new users at various events who were installing Debian for the first time, usually on laptops. It is easy enough to run the installer and get Debian up and running. However, if the user is security conscious, or will be travelling to events and

mpop - download just one single email (or a batch of 10) and stop/ exit?

2017-07-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Does anyone know if mpop can be used to download just a single email, or a batch of say 10 emails, and then stop or exit? This would be useful when my boondocks internet is shaped and the emails have piled up, and I just want to download a few whilst leaving the rest to be downloaded later. TIA,

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:33 AM, deloptes wrote: > Nicolas George wrote: > >> How do you know you can trust that "legal clarification" better than >> what any of us could have written? I do not have any legal training, and >> I know approximatively what is written in the first

Re: Missing HDMI display

2017-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Milliman composed on 2017-07-30 15:32 (UTC-0500): > Ok, guys. I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully > functional with a new laptop. A couple of the issues have been > addressed already, and fixed. The next issue is a missing HDMI output. > I'm running a very new HP

Buckley's family donated him to a dog laboratory

2017-07-30 Thread Michelle from peta2
Some people dismiss animal exploitation by saying things like, "Yeah, it sucks how they're treated, but meh-don't really care!" They've convinced themselves that they don't have the capacity to worry about animal abuse. They usually admit that they don't agree with it, but they accept it

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

2017-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
Sven Hartge composed on 2017-07-30 23:29 (UTC+0200): > Curt wrote: >> I could imagine this restriction being prohibitive in some cases, and >> Sven's suggestion, which at first reading I thought unnecessarily >> complicated, might then be taken into account. > To be fair: I hadn't even thought

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

2017-07-30 Thread Sven Hartge
Curt wrote: > I could imagine this restriction being prohibitive in some cases, and > Sven's suggestion, which at first reading I thought unnecessarily > complicated, might then be taken into account. To be fair: I hadn't even thought about multiple profiles. I've been using

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:20:33 -0600 Ralph Katz wrote: > On 07/30/2017 08:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > ... > > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > > system runs 24/7 and

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:51:51 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > On 07/30/2017 10:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > > system runs 24/7 and

Missing HDMI display

2017-07-30 Thread Michael Milliman
Ok, guys. I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully functional with a new laptop. A couple of the issues have been addressed already, and fixed. The next issue is a missing HDMI output. I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15- cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU,

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

2017-07-30 Thread rpr //
On 30 July 2017 at 22:05, Curt wrote: > > I'm not quite following here. -no-remote allows you to run multiple > Firefox instances simultaneously (profile1 and profile2 at the same > time, let's say). However you cannot open external links in the > -no-remote instance (link in an

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Jul 2017 at 20:33:50 +0200, deloptes wrote: With apologies to Ansgar Burchard https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg01524.html (who was spot-on with his assessment) and anyone else who sees this thread as completely off-topic for -user. > Nicolas George wrote: > > > How

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

2017-07-30 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-30, Erwan David wrote: > Le 07/30/17 à 20:47, Dan Hitt a écrit : >> I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is >> completely unconnected to the first. >> >> That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind >> of storage,

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:58:54PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > This is my opinion, and I hope y'all read it as critically as > > you should read anything. > > I appreciate and value your opinion, but as so much was written

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

2017-07-30 Thread Erwan David
Le 07/30/17 à 20:47, Dan Hitt a écrit : > I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is > completely unconnected to the first. > > That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind > of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first. > It

Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

2017-07-30 Thread Sven Hartge
Dan Hitt wrote: > I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is > completely unconnected to the first. > That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind > of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first. > It

how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?

2017-07-30 Thread Dan Hitt
I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is completely unconnected to the first. That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first. It should be possible to send a signal to one (such as

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread deloptes
Nicolas George wrote: > How do you know you can trust that "legal clarification" better than > what any of us could have written? I do not have any legal training, and > I know approximatively what is written in the first message, but you > would be wrong to take my opinion at face value. > >

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Ralph Katz
On 07/30/2017 08:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: ... > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > system runs 24/7 and it's in my bedroom. A 24" monitor makes an awfully > bright nightlight. ;-) I used

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 12 thermidor, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit : > I appreciate and value your opinion, but as so much was written here > regarding this subject I find the legal clarification in place. It saves > one (like me) a lot of digging in the subject to get an overview. In this > sense the intention of

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/30/2017 10:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my system runs 24/7 and it's in my bedroom. A 24" monitor makes an awfully bright nightlight. ;-) VLC will kill

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > This is my opinion, and I hope y'all read it as critically as > you should read anything. I appreciate and value your opinion, but as so much was written here regarding this subject I find the legal clarification in place. It saves one (like me) a lot of digging in the

Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver

2017-07-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:49:46 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 29 Jul 2017 at 07:57:49 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:08:41 -0500 David Wright > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu 27 Jul 2017 at 14:18:47 (-0700), Patrick

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 12:14:53PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > ni...@redchan.it wrote: > > > I needed to highlight some things in the text so one's eyes don't bleed > > out reading it. > > > > Some variation here and there. > > > > But the key is you

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > not everyone has the time to get a legal overview such that nisus provided. I beg your pardon. But that "legal overview" is trivial and off topic here. Firstly, the GRSecurity issue is discussed more than enough by the people whom it concerns, namely those who contributed

kernel errors only showing on reboot - nouveau & tpm_crb

2017-07-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
Every time that I reboot this shows up in my daily logwatch - --8<---cut here---start->8--- WARNING: Kernel Errors Present intel-lpss: probe of :00:1e.0 failed with error -22 ...: 2 Time(s) nouveau: probe of :01:00.0 failed with error -12

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > That's what I was trying to say: while some of the things in his/her > post may be correct, the way they are brought about seems to aim at > spreading hate and chaos instead of at finding a good solution. > >> Just don't feed him here :-) > > Agreed. Again the moral

Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.

2017-07-30 Thread deloptes
ni...@redchan.it wrote: > I needed to highlight some things in the text so one's eyes don't bleed > out reading it. > > Some variation here and there. > > But the key is you have individual standing to sue. You don't have to > ask the free software conservancy or the linux foundation

Unstable WiFi

2017-07-30 Thread Lck Ras
Hello list, I'm running Debian 9, and I'm having issues with WiFi being occasionally unstable. It will run just fine for a while, but sometimes it will suddenly fail. /etc/network/interfaces: > allow-hotplug wlo1 > iface wlo1 inet manual > wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf >

Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install

2017-07-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: On 2017-07-30, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/ thanks Curt, I used this one and it worked perfectly, except

Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install

2017-07-30 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-30, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: > >> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/ >> > >thanks Curt, > I used this one and it worked perfectly, except the last step, i.e. grub >

Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install

2017-07-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Steve McIntyre wrote: You don't say exactly which image you're using, but this is clearly a bug. I'm *guessing* you're using a 9.0.x live image? The 9.1.0 images should work better... you are right, it was 9.0, as 9.1 was not available when I did the download. anyway,

Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install

2017-07-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/ thanks Curt, I used this one and it worked perfectly, except the last step, i.e. grub install: It actually installed grub, but at reboot I don't get the grub menu,

Re: Problème avec un update vers Mysql 5.5.57

2017-07-30 Thread lann
Bonjour J'ai eu un peu le même problème que toi. Je n'avais plus php ni les bases de données dans les pages web. Voici ce que j'ai fait : https://help.nextcloud.com/t/curl-error-in-debian-9/18808/7 Si ça peut t'aider Le Sat, 29 Jul 2017 23:56:18 +0200, Philippe Batreau

Re: Greetings! An invitation from GNOME.Asia Summit 2017

2017-07-30 Thread Kukuh Syafaat
On 29/07/17 22:55, biscuit kernel wrote: > * > Greetings! > * > * > > This is the GNOME.Asia Summit 2017 Chongqing committee and we are > currently authorized by the GNOME foundation to be the exclusive > agency of the GNOME.Asia Summit 2017 event. On behalf of the > committee, we are inviting you