On 2018-08-08 02:54, Fred wrote:
On 08/07/2018 12:30 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:15:34PM -0700, Fred wrote:
I need to ftp some files from a new Sid installation to either of two
other
computers on the network. Neither is configured for a "secure"
version of
ftp and
On 2018-08-07 07:13 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 03:03:57PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't identify
a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome Flashback
seems to be working, I'd guess that it is in the
On 08/07/2018 12:30 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:15:34PM -0700, Fred wrote:
I need to ftp some files from a new Sid installation to either of two other
computers on the network. Neither is configured for a "secure" version of
ftp and there is no reason to do that and Sid
anyone ??
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On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 12:25:14AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
But you need a
686-pae or amd64 kernel to use RAM beyond 4 GiB, as Michael pointed out.
but he has 3GB and machine sees only 2 - is it because kernel is not pae?
I was thinking that 686 system can see (and use)
- Mail original -
> De: "Alexandre Hoïde"
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 7 Août 2018 21:53:40
> Objet: Re: comment récupérer altgr au clavier
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 06:22:29PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> > j'ai réessayé avec la commande showkey
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> But you need a
> 686-pae or amd64 kernel to use RAM beyond 4 GiB, as Michael pointed out.
but he has 3GB and machine sees only 2 - is it because kernel is not pae?
I was thinking that 686 system can see (and use) around 3GB and with some
trick above, but in case of 4GB
Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> I `aptitude purge-d' pulseaudio and... (after maybe reboot) sound back
> again...
>
usually it helps
logout
remove .pulse from use home
reboot
in .pulse and previously in .config/pulse (AFAIR) there are/were internal DB
and it did not work well
Curt wrote:
> He means it's self-explanatory given you're using testing and when using
> testing shit happens (things break)
its not even testing it is sid - as far as I know it is after testing and
there even more shit happens, so I don't understand why he/she should
bother us or we should
Hi,
On Aug/07/2018, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 04, 2018 at 10:54:59PM +0100, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
> >
> > And I'm now 99% sure that the culprit of all this confusion is...
> > plymouth! It has a password caching facility and systemd seems to use it
> > to get the cached
Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> I'd always thought that `su' was Debian's and `sudo' was Ubuntu's... :-)
No - both are linux and sudo is for the use to be able to use specific
commands. So in general I add sudo rule for my use for bash and it is done.
Alternatively add user to sudo group and you can
Le mardi 07 août 2018 à 10:42 +0200, Christophe Maquaire a écrit :
> Le mardi 07 août 2018 à 10:11 +0200, Bernardo a écrit :
> > Celle-ci ? (mais je suis en Sid)
>
> On dirait bien, merci.
>
> Christophe
>
Par contre je ne vois pas trop le lien avec mon soucis ?
Gaëtan
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Le 07/08/2018 à 14:53, basti a écrit :
Hello, I have a system with Kernel 4.9.0-7-686, installed RAM are 3x 1GB
but free -m only show 2GB.
Whats wrong here?
(...)
As I know 686 can address 4GB RAM
No. It can address 4 GiB memory space. Memory space does not contain
only RAM, it is also
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:30:17 -0300
Saúl Morales wrote:
> lo puedo bajar como una aplicacion de apptore de android
>
> El mar., 7 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 15:29, Saúl Morales (
> ezequiel@gmail.com) escribió:
>
> > negro , no entiendo que vos decis que ese wapsap es libre de gnu es la
> >
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:29:21 -0300
Saúl Morales wrote:
> negro , no entiendo que vos decis que ese wapsap es libre de gnu es la
> contra de wapsap??
>
> El lun., 6 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 00:30, Fabián Bonetti (
> mama21m...@riseup.net) escribió:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ##Servidor Debian
On Tuesday 07 August 2018 15:08:34 Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:
> 2018-08-07 14:50 keltezéssel, The Wanderer írta:
> > But it's more secure to require a second password to do elevated
> > things than to permit doing those things with the same password as
> > is used for ordinary activities.
>
> Then use
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 06:22:29PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> j'ai réessayé avec la commande showkey -s et je n'ai pas de signal
> le clavier est cuit ...
Dommage ! Ça me fait penser qu'il faudrait que j'installe une distrib
GNU/Linux sur mon Asus TF300T… mais je crois que la touche
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:15:34PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> I need to ftp some files from a new Sid installation to either of two other
> computers on the network. Neither is configured for a "secure" version of
> ftp and there is no reason to do that and Sid only has sftp.
If you only need an FTP
On 08/07/2018 10:20 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 09:53:57AM -0700, Fred wrote:
On a new Sid installation I need to ftp some files to another computer on
the network. sftp appears to be the only ftp program available. The other
computers on the network do not use ssl so the
2018-08-07 14:50 keltezéssel, The Wanderer írta:
>
> But it's more secure to require a second password to do elevated things
> than to permit doing those things with the same password as is used for
> ordinary activities.
Then use other pam backend module for sudo and not the 'common-auth'.
There
El mar., 7 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 11:39, AFS (abe...@gmail.com) escribió:
>
> Que tal Felix, efectivamente intente subirle la RAM pero el sistema se
> vuelve mas inestable, cuando me refiero al sistema me refiero a mi PC Fisica,
> no a la virtual.
>
Y un TOP o HTOP que te muestra acerca de
Hi,
Ehsan Esteki wrote:
> I never riceve the answer from my email.
> Can you give me please the feedabck.
> Thanks.
>
> Il giorno lun 6 ago 2018 alle ore 11:43 Ehsan Esteki
> ha scritto:
> >
> > Hello,
> > My name is Ehsan Esteki from Italy. I would like help you to translate
> > your guide
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 06:01:27PM +, Curt wrote:
I thought his point might be that in typing the full path at least you
know you're getting '/bin/su' and not some other 'su' that a malevolent
individual might have created in your home directory after prepending HOME
to your path, for
On 2018-08-07, Nicolas George wrote:
>
> Curt (2018-08-07):
>> I thought his point might be that in typing the full path at least you
>> know you're getting '/bin/su' and not some other 'su' that a malevolent
>> individual might have created in your home directory after prepending HOME
>> to your
Bonjour,
Le mardi 7 août 2018, 15:55:23 CEST G2PC a écrit :
> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai ajouté une page sur mon wiki pour installer Redmine sur Debian.
>
> En fait, j'ai installé Redmine sur GNU/Linux Mint, le titre ne
> correspond donc pas à une installation sur Debian, pour le moment.
>
Curt (2018-08-07):
> I thought his point might be that in typing the full path at least you
> know you're getting '/bin/su' and not some other 'su' that a malevolent
> individual might have created in your home directory after prepending HOME
> to your path, for example (in that malevolent
On 2018-08-07, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:14:26AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>>On Tue 07 Aug 2018 at 15:31:43 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote:
>>> The Wanderer (2018-08-07):
>>
>>> > > Anyone who learns the user's password can obtain the second password
>>> > > pretty easily.
El 07/08/2018 a las 13:16, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
El 03/08/18 a las 12:45, Marcelo P. Llanos C. escribió:
ejecuta pavucontrol desde terminal:
$ pavucontrol
El 1 de agosto de 2018, 23:32, rv riveravaldez
mailto:riveravaldezm...@gmail.com>> escribió:
2018-07-31 17:19
Rodolfo Medina writes:
> It seems to be damned recursive, the problem... After yesterday's
> full-upgrade in Sid, my old Acer One without sound once again... Everything
> seems all right: alsamixer, aumix, pulseaudio installed... Last time this
> happened, it was solved installing pulseaudio
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 09:53:57AM -0700, Fred wrote:
> On a new Sid installation I need to ftp some files to another computer on
> the network. sftp appears to be the only ftp program available. The other
> computers on the network do not use ssl so the ftp connection is refused
> from both
On 8/7/2018 6:53 PM, Fred wrote:
Hi,
On a new Sid installation I need to ftp some files to another computer
on the network. sftp appears to be the only ftp program available. The
other computers on the network do not use ssl so the ftp connection is
refused from both directions. One
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 09:53:57AM -0700, Fred wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On a new Sid installation I need to ftp some files to another computer on
> the network. sftp appears to be the only ftp program available. The other
> computers on the network do not use ssl so the ftp connection is refused
> from
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:14:26AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Tue 07 Aug 2018 at 15:31:43 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote:
The Wanderer (2018-08-07):
> > Anyone who learns the user's password can obtain the second password
> > pretty easily.
> How so?
Just insert a fake su in their path.
Hi,
On a new Sid installation I need to ftp some files to another computer
on the network. sftp appears to be the only ftp program available. The
other computers on the network do not use ssl so the ftp connection is
refused from both directions. One computer is using vsftp under
Jessie.
deloptes writes:
> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> Yes, if becoming root with with `su -' the error about what is the present
>> thread disappears...
>
> I guess sudo is always better to use
I'd always thought that `su' was Debian's and `sudo' was Ubuntu's... :-)
Rodolfo
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 06:29:58PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> David Wright (2018-08-07):
> > This does make me wonder why nobody here seems to have pointed out
> > that su should be spelled "/bin/su -". My fingers have been wired
> > that way for 20 years.
>
> As I said, there are more subtle
David Wright (2018-08-07):
> This does make me wonder why nobody here seems to have pointed out
> that su should be spelled "/bin/su -". My fingers have been wired
> that way for 20 years.
As I said, there are more subtle ways, and the full path will not
protect you from them.
Regards,
--
I think as a general philosophy it used to be
this is your computer, as user we make sure it works and you can do some
things.
You can also be root but if you break it you get to keep the bits.
mick
--
Key ID4BFEBB31
- Mail original -
> De: "Alexandre Hoïde"
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 7 Août 2018 16:46:10
> Objet: Re: comment récupérer altgr au clavier
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 04:02:50PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> > - Mail original -
> > >
Martin writes:
> [...]
>>>
>>> is new to me, I never knew! And I think it is good approach.
>>> Does one actually get pointed to this during install?
>>
>> ┌───┤ [?] Set up users and passwords
>> ├┐
>> │
El 03/08/18 a las 12:45, Marcelo P. Llanos C. escribió:
ejecuta pavucontrol desde terminal:
$ pavucontrol
El 1 de agosto de 2018, 23:32, rv riveravaldez
mailto:riveravaldezm...@gmail.com>> escribió:
2018-07-31 17:19 GMT-03:00 Julian Daich mailto:julia...@gmail.com>>:
> Hola,
On Tue 07 Aug 2018 at 15:31:43 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote:
> The Wanderer (2018-08-07):
> > > Anyone who learns the user's password can obtain the second password
> > > pretty easily.
> > How so?
>
> Just insert a fake su in their path. There are more subtle ways.
This does make me wonder
On Tue 07 Aug 2018 at 08:07:56 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> I'm fairly sure that when I did (some of) my existing installs - which,
> to be fair, was years and years ago - sudo came with the system, even
> though I didn't even consider the concept of setting the machine up with
> no root
Que tal Felix, efectivamente intente subirle la RAM pero el sistema se
vuelve mas inestable, cuando me refiero al sistema me refiero a mi PC
Fisica, no a la virtual.
Saludos.
El 7 de agosto de 2018, 09:23, Felix Perez
escribió:
> El mar., 7 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 09:53, AFS (abe...@gmail.com)
[...]
>>
>> is new to me, I never knew! And I think it is good approach.
>> Does one actually get pointed to this during install?
>
> ┌───┤ [?] Set up users and passwords
> ├┐
> │
On Tue 07 Aug 2018 at 13:23:06 (+0200), Martin Drescher wrote:
> That
>
> > If you set a root password in d-i (as it asks you to), it doesn't
> > install sudo. If you try to set a blank root password, it locks the root
> > account, installs sudo and sets up the user you created with sudo
> >
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 04:02:50PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> - Mail original -
> > Peut-être pourrais-tu essayer également en console avec
> > $ showkey' (du paquet « kbd ») ?
> >
> merci pour le coup de pouce, mais j'ai aucun signal pour altgr sur
> le clavier principal (
El mar., 7 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 09:53, AFS (abe...@gmail.com) escribió:
>
> Gracias por contestar Eduardo. Revisando el log no hay nada raro y acabo de
> instalar el sistema, no he actualizado nada.
>
Hola, probaste ampliando la mem asignada a la VM? Me paso con
virtualbox en una oportunidad
On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 02:27:48 +0200, Martin wrote:
Come on. You are telling me, it is more secure to share one secret among
multiple people against every person having it own?
If the password is stored in a password safe, and everyone in the IT has
access to it, where is the problem?
- Mail original -
> De: "Alexandre Hoïde"
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 7 Août 2018 15:47:45
> Objet: Re: comment récupérer altgr au clavier
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 03:09:15PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> >
> >
> > - Mail original -
> >
On 2018-08-07 10:58, Martin Drescher wrote:
Hi members,
I'm a little... lets say thoughtful, about the use of 'su' discussed
at some points in this list.
I have a strong opinion about su, which is, avoid it whenever it is
possible and use 'sudo' instead. This is the case in close to a 100%
in
Bonjour,
J'ai ajouté une page sur mon wiki pour installer Redmine sur Debian.
En fait, j'ai installé Redmine sur GNU/Linux Mint, le titre ne
correspond donc pas à une installation sur Debian, pour le moment.
https://www.visionduweb.eu/wiki/index.php?title=Installer_Redmine_sur_Debian
Je ferais
Gracias por contestar Eduardo. Revisando el log no hay nada raro y acabo
de instalar el sistema, no he actualizado nada.
Saludos
El 7 de agosto de 2018, 08:37, Eduardo Visbal
escribió:
> Los Log del sistema te muestran algo fuera de lo normal?
> Esta lentitud fue a raíz de alguna actualización
>> Once you let a user run an editor with escalated privileges, you're
>> fu**ed. In almost every editor, you can load a different file, save
>> the buffer with a different file name.
>
> Of course.
>
> Again, that comes down to: do you trust this user with elevated access,
> or not?
It is not
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 03:09:15PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
>
>
> - Mail original -
> > De: "Alexandre Hoïde"
> > Oui, c'est certainement gonflant ! Mais commence par voir si '$
> > xev' détecte le AltGr du clavier intégré.
> j'ai essayé xev et je n'ai aucun signal sur
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 09:22:07AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
Or, rather, that you can do elevated-access things with the same
credentials as are used to permit non-elevated access.
I consider that to be, by definition, a security hole.
That can be addressed three ways: first, you can have
> I've long forgotten why, but I committed "sudo su -" to muscle memory
First, you execute sudo with target UID 0 (aka. root).
While doing that, sudo does all the fancy things for you, like setting or
unsetting environments (eg SUDO_COMMAND, SUDO_UID, SUDO_USER) and check, if you
will be
The Wanderer (2018-08-07):
> I don't consider that a significant downside;
Maybe your uses are too limited for you to experience it.
> in some contexts, it may
> even be an advantage.
No, it may not. With sudo, adding "sh -c" allows to emulate su's
On 2018-08-07 at 09:22, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 08:07:56AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2018-08-07 at 07:47, Martin wrote:
>>
>>> The point is not, that ONE person needs a root password. All
>>> people intended to do privileged things will have to share this
>>>
Si soporta Virtualizacion.
cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor: 0
vendor_id: AuthenticAMD
cpu family: 21
model: 2
model name: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor
stepping: 0
microcode: 0x600081c
cpu MHz: 1793.726
cache size: 2048 KB
physical id: 0
siblings
On 2018-08-07 at 09:09, Nicolas George wrote:
> The Wanderer (2018-08-07):
>
>> "su OPTIONAL_USERNAME -c 'YOUR_COMMAND'"
>
> The superiority of sudu over su in this particular case is that it
> does not require an extra level of quoting.
I don't consider that a significant downside; in some
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:22:53PM +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> As far as I can see "su -" saves a lot of grief if you're the only admin on
> a system. Tried sudo ing to a protected directory? Doesn't work.
Works fine for me:
dave$ sudo bash
[sudo] password for dave:
root# cd
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 08:07:56AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-08-07 at 07:47, Martin wrote:
> > The point is not, that ONE person needs a root password. All people
> > intended to do privileged things will have to share this password.
> > This is a security nightmare!
>
> If they're all
On 2018-08-07 at 09:04, Martin wrote:
> Am 07.08.2018 um 14:50 schrieb The Wanderer:
>
>> On 2018-08-07 at 08:27, Martin wrote:
>>> So, what is bad with 'sudo -u TARGETUSER YOUR_COMMEND'? How do
>>> you edit a file with su? Invoke a shell? Take a look at
>>> sudoedit!
>>
>> "su
Buenos dias compañeros, tengo el problema que al abrir una nueva maquina
virtual el sistema se pone excesivamente lento, a la maquina virtual solo
le asigne 512 megas de RAM y aun asi el sistema se traba y tarda en
reaccionar, anteriormente tenia instalado el mismo paquete en la misma pc y
no
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:46:55AM +, Curt wrote:
I've never used it myself. I'm all by my lonesome on this machine. I've
been using 'su' from the very beginning (but maybe I should start or
will start whenever the future and the new 'su' arrives using 'su -').
I've long forgotten why, but
Hi.
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:45:51PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 01:18:59 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > I never had your mentioned problems.
> > Either you have /sbin in your user's path, or you haven't run a single
> > apt-get all these years. There are other
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 02:27:48PM +0200, Martin wrote:
Am 07.08.2018 um 14:07 schrieb The Wanderer:
On 2018-08-07 at 07:47, Martin wrote:
As a system operator, you need some elevated privileges on a daily
basis. How do you do that without sudo?
No, I don't. I only need them when I'm doing
- Mail original -
> De: "Alexandre Hoïde"
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 7 Août 2018 12:54:54
> Objet: Re: comment récupérer altgr au clavier
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:43:10PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
> > ce qui est gonflant c'est de mettre un
The Wanderer (2018-08-07):
> "su OPTIONAL_USERNAME -c 'YOUR_COMMAND'"
The superiority of sudu over su in this particular case is that it does
not require an extra level of quoting.
> But it's more secure to require a second password to do elevated things
> than to permit doing those things with
On 2018-08-07 07:30, deloptes wrote:
mick crane wrote:
I'm not very good at sound.
Sometimes if I watch an mp4 film the volume in parts is low but then
there will become some sound event that is very loud.
It is true that my hearing is not as it was but I don't think that is
it.
I'm not
Am 07.08.2018 um 14:50 schrieb The Wanderer:
> On 2018-08-07 at 08:27, Martin wrote:
>
>> Am 07.08.2018 um 14:07 schrieb The Wanderer:
>>
>>> On 2018-08-07 at 07:47, Martin wrote:
>
As a system operator, you need some elevated privileges on a
daily basis. How do you do that without
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 02:53:18PM +0200, basti wrote:
Hello, I have a system with Kernel 4.9.0-7-686, installed RAM are 3x 1GB
but free -m only show 2GB.
Whats wrong here?
Install a -pae kernel.
Mike Stone
Hello, I have a system with Kernel 4.9.0-7-686, installed RAM are 3x 1GB
but free -m only show 2GB.
Whats wrong here?
# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 2018 203 1204 25
610 1569
Swap:
On 2018-08-07 at 08:27, Martin wrote:
> Am 07.08.2018 um 14:07 schrieb The Wanderer:
>
>> On 2018-08-07 at 07:47, Martin wrote:
>>> As a system operator, you need some elevated privileges on a
>>> daily basis. How do you do that without sudo?
>>
>> No, I don't. I only need them when I'm doing
On 08/07/2018 09:06 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:11:50 +0100
> Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>> If you set a root password in d-i (as it asks you to), it doesn't
>> install sudo. If you try to set a blank root password, it locks the
>> root account, installs sudo and sets up the user you
Am 07.08.2018 um 14:19 schrieb Stephan Seitz:
> On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:46:55 +, Curt wrote:
>> But it seems the whole point of the thing in a multi-user environment is
>> that you can use a granular approach to permissions, so I suppose if you
>> didn't desire a particular user modifying
Am 07.08.2018 um 14:07 schrieb The Wanderer:
> On 2018-08-07 at 07:47, Martin wrote:
>
>> Am 07.08.2018 um 13:20 schrieb The Wanderer:
>>
>>> On 2018-08-07 at 05:58, Martin Drescher wrote:
>>>
Hi members,
I'm a little... lets say thoughtful, about the use of 'su'
discussed at
On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 01:33:20 +0200, Martin wrote:
I don’t know if Debian does, but the difference between su and sudo
seems quite like to the difference between ssh logins with password
and with keys. Both have advantages and disadvantages.
By far: No.
su only invokes or acts like login,
On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:46:55 +, Curt wrote:
But it seems the whole point of the thing in a multi-user environment is
that you can use a granular approach to permissions, so I suppose if you
didn't desire a particular user modifying the logs, while granting her
other administrative
On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 11:58:48 AM -04 Martin Drescher wrote:
> Hi members,
>
> I'm a little... lets say thoughtful, about the use of 'su' discussed at some
> points in this list. I have a strong opinion about su, which is, avoid it
> whenever it is possible and use 'sudo' instead. This is
On 2018-08-07, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> deloptes writes:
>
>> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>>
>>> After yesterday's full-upgrade
>>> in Sid
>>
>> well this is self explaining -> Sid
He means it's self-explanatory given you're using testing and when using
testing shit
happens (things break). It goes
On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 01:18:59PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:01:02PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> > On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:35:32 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > > rodolfo@sda6-acer:~$ su
> > > Don't. Do. That. Ever.
> >
> > That’s bullshit. I did it all the time until Debian
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On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 01:26:35PM +0200, Ehsan Esteki wrote:
> I never riceve the answer from my email.
> Can you give me please the feedabck.
Hi, Ehsan,
(CC'ing Ehsan, just in case)
There were several answers. Perhaps you are not subscribed to
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On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:22:53PM +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> As far as I can see "su -" saves a lot of grief if you're the only admin on
> a system. Tried sudo ing to a protected directory? Doesn't work. Tired of
> entering your password every
Jude DaShiell writes:
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2018, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 06:40:49
>> From: Rodolfo Medina
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: New `no sound' problems
>> Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 10:41:15 + (UTC)
>> Resent-From:
On 2018-08-07 at 07:47, Martin wrote:
> Am 07.08.2018 um 13:20 schrieb The Wanderer:
>
>> On 2018-08-07 at 05:58, Martin Drescher wrote:
>>
>>> Hi members,
>>>
>>> I'm a little... lets say thoughtful, about the use of 'su'
>>> discussed at some points in this list. I have a strong opinion
>>>
On 2018-08-07 12:47, mick crane wrote:
On 2018-08-07 09:18, Stephan Seitz wrote:
On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 10:08:06 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
$ echo $PATH
/home/rodolfo/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
rodolfo@sda6-acer:~$ su
Password:
You are using
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:11:50 +0100
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:40:29AM +0100, Joe wrote:
> >Why, I don't know, but the last time I installed stable, sudo was not
> >installed by default, and never has been in my experience. I always
> >add sudo and mc immediately after an
deloptes writes:
> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> After yesterday's full-upgrade
>> in Sid
>
> well this is self explaining -> Sid
What please do you mean...?
Rodolfo
On 08/07/2018 07:40 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:58:48 +0200
> Why, I don't know, but the last time I installed stable, sudo was not
> installed by default, and never has been in my experience. I always add
> sudo and mc immediately after an installation.
It's installed if you choose to
On 2018-08-07, James Allsopp wrote:
>
> sudo does mean that the admin actions of a particular user are logged, but
> unless you lock down what they can do, they can change/delete the logs
> easily enough.
>
But it seems the whole point of the thing in a multi-user environment is
that you can use
On 2018-08-07 09:18, Stephan Seitz wrote:
On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 10:08:06 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
$ echo $PATH
/home/rodolfo/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
rodolfo@sda6-acer:~$ su
Password:
You are using testing/unstable, aren’t you?
The su binary was
Am 07.08.2018 um 13:20 schrieb The Wanderer:
> On 2018-08-07 at 05:58, Martin Drescher wrote:
>
>> Hi members,
>>
>> I'm a little... lets say thoughtful, about the use of 'su' discussed
>> at some points in this list. I have a strong opinion about su, which
>> is, avoid it whenever it is possible
I never riceve the answer from my email.
Can you give me please the feedabck.
Thanks.
Il giorno lun 6 ago 2018 alle ore 11:43 Ehsan Esteki
ha scritto:
>
> Hello,
> My name is Ehsan Esteki from Italy. I would like help you to translate
> your guide and wiki in Farsi Language ( Iranian language).
On 2018-08-07 09:18, Stephan Seitz wrote:
On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 10:08:06 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
$ echo $PATH
/home/rodolfo/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
rodolfo@sda6-acer:~$ su
Password:
You are using testing/unstable, aren’t you?
The su binary was
> I don’t know if Debian does, but the difference between su and sudo seems
> quite like to the difference between ssh logins with password and with keys.
> Both have advantages and disadvantages.
By far: No.
su only invokes or acts like login, pam included. sudo may represent a complex
role
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 06:40:49
> From: Rodolfo Medina
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: New `no sound' problems
> Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 10:41:15 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Rodolfo Medina writes:
That
> If you set a root password in d-i (as it asks you to), it doesn't
> install sudo. If you try to set a blank root password, it locks the root
> account, installs sudo and sets up the user you created with sudo
> access.
is new to me, I never knew! And I think it is good approach. Does one
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