Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-05-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 08:12:32AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 27 mai 19, 02:15:49, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Glenn, and Andrei, do you do anything out of the ordinary to > > install? > > https://salsa.debian.org/amp-guest/pine64/blob/master/pine64_buildimage Seems it does a

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-05-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 27 mai 19, 02:15:49, Andy Smith wrote: > > Glenn, and Andrei, do you do anything out of the ordinary to > install? https://salsa.debian.org/amp-guest/pine64/blob/master/pine64_buildimage > Myself I have seen this happen when untarring the operating system > as by default tar does not

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote: > > > My recollection was that none of that was ever established in any > > > of the threads you posted here, so

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 May 2019 08:29:27 pm bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: <201905261132.11943.ghesk...@shentel.net> > > >Greetings all; > > > >New stretch install about 2 weeks ago, cleaning up the remains. > > Fresh disk, so no leftovers. But lots of stuff has been copied over > > from the wheezy disk since >

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-05-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 07:41:41AM -0600, ghe wrote: > On 2/21/19 11:12 AM, ghe wrote: > > > Another Busterism, BTW: ping now requires root privileges. It does on my > > computer, anyway. Maybe I made a mistake when I installed -- somebody > > sure did. > > Fix: 'alias ping="sudo ping"'

That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote: > > My recollection was that none of that was ever established in any of > > the threads you posted here, so that is a really weird thing to keep > > stating. Did IPv6 use

Insidious systemd

2019-05-26 Thread Patrick Bartek
Hi, all! Needing to convert this box from wired ethernet to wireless, I searched for a suitable network manager and wicd looked good: No desktop environment dependencies (I use a window manager Openbox and single lxpanel), compatibility with Openbox, etc. Imagine my surprise when during the

Re: kernel symlinks, still needed?

2019-05-26 Thread songbird
Andrea Borgia wrote: > Hi. > > AFAIK the following symlinks in "/" were required for LILO and are no > longer needed with GRUB2: > initrd.img > initrd.img.old > vmlinuz > vmlinuz.old > > Is there a reason for keeping them around nowadays? i use refind to boot via UEFI and those links are nice

Re: Debian specific tools/apps

2019-05-26 Thread songbird
Josef Bailey wrote: > Hello I’m new to Debian and wanted to know what are some good Debian specific > tools/apps I should know so I don’t write emails like this. > > I know of > 1. Dpkg > 2. Apt-file > 3. Apt > 4. Aptitude > 5. I know how to use backports for stable > > Is there anything else I

Re: sporadic successfull mount of nfs with Stretch

2019-05-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Following on Keith's suggestion: If replacing the hostname with the IP address doesn't help, look at the error rates on the network interfaces. Especially look for speed mismatches in the Ethernet config at the 2 ends. On Sat, May 25, 2019, 7:48 PM Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 23/5/19 12:36 am,

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 May 2019 03:34:52 pm Brian wrote: > On Sun 26 May 2019 at 11:32:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > New stretch install about 2 weeks ago, cleaning up the remains. > > Fresh disk, so no leftovers. But lots of stuff has been copied over > > from the wheezy disk

Re: rebooted again, stretch losing keyboard but keyboard and batteries in it ae good

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 May 2019 03:14:34 pm Brian wrote: > On Sat 25 May 2019 at 17:55:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > When buster is officially stable, I will upgrade. Thats what, > > another week? > > ±x days. I say that with complete confidence. I've never been > wrong. :) Chuckle, even a ROTFLMAO.

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 May 2019 12:13:38 pm john doe wrote: > On 5/26/2019 5:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > New stretch install about 2 weeks ago, cleaning up the remains. > > Fresh disk, so no leftovers. But lots of stuff has been copied over > > from the wheezy disk since > > > >

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-26 Thread Brian
On Sun 26 May 2019 at 11:32:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > New stretch install about 2 weeks ago, cleaning up the remains. Fresh > disk, so no leftovers. But lots of stuff has been copied over from the > wheezy disk since All copied stuff is compatible with stretch? You

Re: kernel symlinks, still needed?

2019-05-26 Thread Brian
On Sun 26 May 2019 at 14:57:57 +0200, Andrea Borgia wrote: > Il 26/05/19 00:19, Brian ha scritto: > > > Booting from a GRUB prompt can be a little easier when you know that > > the kernel and initrd can be reached from /. > > In those cases where the system doesn't boot on its own, I dig out

Re: rebooted again, stretch losing keyboard but keyboard and batteries in it ae good

2019-05-26 Thread Brian
On Sat 25 May 2019 at 17:55:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > When buster is officially stable, I will upgrade. Thats what, another > week? ±x days. I say that with complete confidence. I've never been wrong. :) -- Brian.

Re: sporadic successfull mount of nfs with Stretch

2019-05-26 Thread deloptes
Stefan K wrote: > I also try to use _netdev as mountoptions, but it didn't work. > Has anyone an idea how to solve this? I use defaults,retry=5,_netdev - never had an issue with this. I must admin I still use init and not systemd. But when testing with systemd I do not recall having problem. I

Re: Keyboard and touchpad not working after waking up from a suspension

2019-05-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 04 mar 19, 20:03:46, Paul Sutton wrote: > > Q2) On a similar note (more for me) As we are on 9.8 will there be a 9.9 > or are we going straight from 9.8 to 10? Stretch will be supported for at least one year after the release of buster, so there will most likely be a few more point

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-26 Thread john doe
On 5/26/2019 5:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > New stretch install about 2 weeks ago, cleaning up the remains. Fresh > disk, so no leftovers. But lots of stuff has been copied over from the > wheezy disk since > > I have spamassassin enabled in my rc5.d, and I start heyu engine

Re: Debian specific tools/apps

2019-05-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 01 mar 19, 22:40:19, Josef Bailey wrote: > Hello I’m new to Debian and wanted to know what are some good Debian specific > tools/apps I should know so I don’t write emails like this. > > I know of > 1. Dpkg > 2. Apt-file > 3. Apt > 4. Aptitude > 5. I know how to use backports for stable

reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; New stretch install about 2 weeks ago, cleaning up the remains. Fresh disk, so no leftovers. But lots of stuff has been copied over from the wheezy disk since I have spamassassin enabled in my rc5.d, and I start heyu engine and heyu monitor in my rc.local for several years ,

Release netboot installer fails

2019-05-26 Thread Gregory Seidman
This is mostly to document what I encountered, because I haven't had time to put it in a bug. (I don't know if I will get around to it, honestly. If someone else wants to put it in they should feel free and post a response to the list with the bug link.) I also have a bonus warning regarding

Re: Feasibility of running mmdebstrap under Stretch (not Buster)

2019-05-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/26/2019 09:52 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Richard Owlett (2019-05-26 16:34:17) I was investigating using multistrap, but it has been orphaned. mmdebstrap apparently has the desired features of multistrap but is available only in Buster. I do not have the available bandwidth to

Re: Feasibility of running mmdebstrap under Stretch (not Buster)

2019-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Richard Owlett (2019-05-26 16:34:17) > I was investigating using multistrap, but it has been orphaned. > mmdebstrap apparently has the desired features of multistrap but is > available only in Buster. > > I do not have the available bandwidth to install Buster. > In Stretch perl is

Re: Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-26 16:25:43) > On Sunday 26 May 2019 07:05:45 am Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-05-26 12:28:43) > > > On my netbook,  Thunderbird seems really unstable, it stars up > > > fine then seems to stall and fails to respond,  it eventually > > >

Feasibility of running mmdebstrap under Stretch (not Buster)

2019-05-26 Thread Richard Owlett
I was investigating using multistrap, but it has been orphaned. mmdebstrap apparently has the desired features of multistrap but is available only in Buster. I do not have the available bandwidth to install Buster. In Stretch perl is 5.24.1-3+deb9u5 but is 5.28.1-6 in Buster. Is it feasible

Re: Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 May 2019 07:05:45 am Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-05-26 12:28:43) > > > On my netbook,  Thunderbird seems really unstable, it stars up fine > > then seems to stall and fails to respond,  it eventually picks up.  > > I usually goto a terminal and type killall

Re: Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-05-26 Thread Paul Sutton
On 26/05/2019 12:32, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 11:28:43AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >> Is there a program that I can run to try and figure out what it is doing >> ?  I am sure there is but not sure what I would be looking for even with >> searching. > perf trace -p > >

Re: network installer will not boot

2019-05-26 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-26 14:29, Blair, Charles E III wrote: Thank you. I seem to have another problem. I used F2 to shut off "secure boot". Now, there are noises that suggest the CD is being read, but nothing displays on the monitor--- no warnings, no diagnostics, just a blinking cursor in the

Re: Re: network installer will not boot

2019-05-26 Thread Blair, Charles E III
Thank you. I seem to have another problem. I used F2 to shut off "secure boot". Now, there are noises that suggest the CD is being read, but nothing displays on the monitor--- no warnings, no diagnostics, just a blinking cursor in the upper-left corner. -- My e-mail is unreliable. Please

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-05-26 Thread ghe
On 2/21/19 11:12 AM, ghe wrote: > Another Busterism, BTW: ping now requires root privileges. It does on my > computer, anyway. Maybe I made a mistake when I installed -- somebody > sure did. Fix: 'alias ping="sudo ping"' in .bashrc. I'm on Buster too :-) -- Glenn English

Re: Debian Programming languages

2019-05-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 25 May 2019, Kenneth Parker wrote: > As one who has been involved in "low level plumbing", since the 1970's > (including on IBM Mainframe Computers), I'm not afraid of Assembler > Language. I'm surprised, that I didn't know about Rust (package rustc). > Thanks for alerting me! Rust, the

Re: kernel symlinks, still needed?

2019-05-26 Thread Andrea Borgia
Il 26/05/19 00:19, Brian ha scritto: Booting from a GRUB prompt can be a little easier when you know that the kernel and initrd can be reached from /. In those cases where the system doesn't boot on its own, I dig out the USB drive where I keep the ISOs and run from there. It's rare enough

Re: kernel symlinks, still needed?

2019-05-26 Thread Andrea Borgia
Il 25/05/19 19:24, Sven Joachim ha scritto: If you stick to grub, not really. You can safely delete them, and use do_symlinks = 0 in /etc/kernel-img.conf so that they will not come back. Thanks, I've just done as you suggested :)

Re: Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-05-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 11:28:43AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > Is there a program that I can run to try and figure out what it is doing > ?  I am sure there is but not sure what I would be looking for even with > searching. perf trace -p ltrace -p strace -p There are more

Re: Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-05-26 12:28:43) > On my netbook,  Thunderbird seems really unstable, it stars up fine > then seems to stall and fails to respond,  it eventually picks up.  I > usually goto a terminal and type killall thunderbird. > > I can usually also minimise thunderbird, but

Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-05-26 Thread Paul Sutton
Hi On my netbook,  Thunderbird seems really unstable, it stars up fine then seems to stall and fails to respond,  it eventually picks up.  I usually goto a terminal and type killall thunderbird. I can usually also minimise thunderbird, but maximising it, ends up with the top of the application

Compilation Bind9

2019-05-26 Thread Thomas Marsaleix
Re, C'est mon dernier poste car il semble que ça marche. voila les export.diff (originale, modifier) La différence c'est le '-ljson-c': -LIBS = -ldl -ljson-c  -L../../lib/isc -L../../lib/dns -L../../lib/isccfg -lcrypto -lisc -ldns -lisccfg +LIBS = -ldl -ljson-c  -L../../lib/isc

Compilation bind9

2019-05-26 Thread Thomas Marsaleix
Bonjour, L'un des problèmes rencontré vient de la: -LIBS = -ldl  -L../../lib/isc -L../../lib/dns -L../../lib/isccfg -lcrypto -lisc -ldns -lisccfg +LIBS = -ldl  -L../../lib/isc -L../../lib/dns -L../../lib/isccfg -lcrypto -lisc-export -ldns-export -lisccfg-export Dans le fichier

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-05-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 feb 19, 12:42:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Well, for those who are interested, I've added some information to > . I'm trusting that the > ALWAYS_SET_PATH thing from that random web page was actually correct, > because verification would take a lot of

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-05-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 feb 19, 11:26:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 04:14:53PM +, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > You could point them to StackExchange in the meantime. (-: > > > > * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/460769/5132 > > On that page: > > Doing plain 'su' is a really

Compilationi Bind9

2019-05-26 Thread Thomas Marsaleix
Bonjour, Mon patch n'est pas parfait: il y a des truc qui disparaissent... désolé pour mon mail précédent. -- Cordialement Thomas Marsaleix signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: How to set access permissions to protect a database file?

2019-05-26 Thread Joe
On Sat, 25 May 2019 20:49:31 -0300 Markos wrote: > Hi, > > I made a program (reading_room.tcl), with Sqlite running on Debian 9, > to control the books of a reading room. > > I implemented an authentication system for common users and > administrator users in the reading_room program. > >

Re: network installer will not boot

2019-05-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Blair, Charles E III wrote: > Image Authorization Fail. Googling EFI "Image Authorization Fail" yields lots of advise to disable Secure Boot or to switch to legacy CSM mode. Have a nice day :) Thomas

network installer will not boot

2019-05-26 Thread Blair, Charles E III
I am trying to install debian on an Intel NUC with a DVD device attached. I downloaded the network installer, then burnt it to a CD on a different computer. When I put it in the new computer and start it, I get the message: > Image Authorization Fail. > System cannot boot to this device