Re: installing lazpaint (a non-debian package) on a debian system, ideally in a user-level account

2019-10-18 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-10-19 11:24, Dan Hitt wrote: There's a piece of software, lazpaint, that i would like to install on my debian system. The project dates from 2011, so i think it's pretty well established. https://sourceforge.net/projects/lazpaint/ So i'm wondering if there's some way to invoke dpkg to

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 18/10/2019 15:33, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming languages do you know? I am considering being a programmer or developer. How long will it take for me to master a programming language like C++, Java, and Python? Mastery is a

Re: installing lazpaint (a non-debian package) on a debian system, ideally in a user-level account

2019-10-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Hitt wrote: > There's a piece of software, lazpaint, that i would like to install on my > debian system. > > As far as i can tell, it is not listed at packages.debian.org. > > It does have a *.deb file however. > > The project dates from 2011, so i think it's pretty well established. > >

installing lazpaint (a non-debian package) on a debian system, ideally in a user-level account

2019-10-18 Thread Dan Hitt
There's a piece of software, lazpaint, that i would like to install on my debian system. As far as i can tell, it is not listed at packages.debian.org. It does have a *.deb file however. The project dates from 2011, so i think it's pretty well established.

Persistent names for audio devices.

2019-10-18 Thread Peter Easthope
systemd provides a sane means to assign a human-chosen persistent name to a network interface. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames#CUSTOM_SCHEMES_USING_.LINK_FILES Can an audio device be named similarly? Eg. given two USB audio adapters how would they be assigned the names "USBheadset"

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, October 18, 2019 06:33:19 PM Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > Perl is a whole lot more readable than APL. Never did much Perl, but I think anything (well, not sure about obfuscated C) is more readable than APL.

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
The OP wanted this treated as a survey, and so . . . Many dialects and derivatives of BASIC, including (but not limited to) IBM VS-BASIC (ran on 370 and compatible mainframes), TRS-80 Level 1, Level 2, and Mod I Disk BASIC, GWBASIC, and the various QBASICs (QuickBASIC and QBX). (I took one

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019, at 23:34, John Hasler wrote: > I guess some people who started with BASIC do eventually recover. It's not all that bad. At my first place of employment, we ran WATERLOO BASIC (from the University of Waterloo) for students to learn how to program. This was on an IBM

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread John Hasler
Thomas writes: > The only right way is to work down from a BASIC on ROM, which is said > to have in part been coded by William Henry Gates III himself, to a > self-made assembler, and then back to Rocky Mountain BASIC on HP > desktops. Finally you move to a Unix workstation (16 MHz and 4 MB of >

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
This discussion is spammed across a whole bunch of linux dstro mail lists. On Fri, 18 Oct 2019, at 19:56, ghe wrote: > Pascal teaches you to think good thoughts. It's was a wonderful language > to learn back in the late 1970s. Yes, or Algol... > Perl's mantra is "There's more than one way to

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Oct 2019 at 23:22:37 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Doug McGarrett wrote: > > [...] and I learned to use BASIC. > > And ? Any recognizable damage left ? :o) > > > (This was in the days when we had > > an acoustic modem and a Teletype machine, and the mainframe was > > 1500 miles

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Brian
On Fri 18 Oct 2019 at 13:26:03 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > On 10/18/2019 09:31 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > > > > > > This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread mick crane
On 2019-10-18 22:22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: But with a text editor i write a description in form of C structures and function stubs, which i fill by remarks to roughly describe what to have or to do where and when. Already during this design stage i use as much compilable C code as possible to

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Doug McGarrett wrote: > [...] and I learned to use BASIC. And ? Any recognizable damage left ? :o) > (This was in the days when we had > an acoustic modem and a Teletype machine, and the mainframe was > 1500 miles away!) I had a color tv and a VIC-20 on the couch table. > Later, I

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Joe
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:26:03 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote: > On 10/18/2019 09:31 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > >> Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > >> > >> This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming languages > >>

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread ghe
On 10/18/19 11:44 AM, hdv@gmail wrote: > On 18/10/2019 19.26, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > ... > >> I'm not sure if any Pascal compilers are still available, but >> Turbo was the most popular back when. Until the last version >> came out, and it was too complicated for its own good. > > Forgive

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:26:03 > From: Doug McGarrett > To: Dan Ritter , > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread hdv@gmail
On 18/10/2019 19.26, Doug McGarrett wrote: ... > I'm not sure if any Pascal compilers are still available, but > Turbo was the most popular back when. Until the last version > came out, and it was too complicated for its own good. Forgive me for barging in, but I just had to answer that. Sure

Re: services en panne suite a uprade stretch sur un VPS VMWARE

2019-10-18 Thread tmp
Bonjour, J'ai essayé les options de débogage de rsyslogd vm293 ~ > /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -v rsyslogd 8.24.0, compiled with: PLATFORM: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu PLATFORM (lsb_release -d): FEATURE_REGEXP: Yes GSSAPI

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 10/18/2019 09:31 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming languages do you know? I am considering being a programmer or developer. How long will it

MP30-AR0 arm64 sdcard slot not detected

2019-10-18 Thread Michael Howard
I've just re-installed debian (stretch) on the Gigabyte MP30-AR0 board using the installer netinst iso (any later install images fail) and the sdcard slot is not showing up. The kernel is vmlinuz-4.9.0-11-arm64 and I have also rebuilt it ensuring all the MMC options I should need are selected.

Re: Agregar nuevos registros SPF al ya existente

2019-10-18 Thread Paynalton
Si un ave no rompe su huevo morirá antes de nacer. Nosotros somos el ave y el mundo es nuestro huevo. POR LA REVOLUCIÓN DEL MUNDO Ciudad de México El vie., 18 oct. 2019 a las 11:08, Leo CH () escribió: > > > Hola, listeros > > Tengo en mi DNS un registros para el control de los de los

Agregar nuevos registros SPF al ya existente

2019-10-18 Thread Leo CH
Hola, listeros Tengo en mi DNS un registros para el control de los de los correos, Aqui tengo el siguiente registro @TXT "v=spf1 mx -all" aqui defino que solo mis mx pueden enviar correos con mi dominio Si quiero agregar al ya existente otro dominio, pudiera ser: @TXT "v=spf1

Re: OT Linux on Android mailing / discussion lists

2019-10-18 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi All Thanks for all the responses for this, I have looked at Termux and this seems to be for Android 5 or higher and the device is on 4.x so I will look at the other options. Thanks again Paul > Hi As I am aware this is off topic, (unless we

Re: Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Steffen Dettmer (2019-10-18 15:17:10) > in short: how to use "init.d" scripts on Debian? In short: service $SERVICE stop service $SERVICE start service $SERVICE reload service $SERVICE force-reload service $SERVICE restart > in detail: > > On one server a init.d script with

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > > This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming languages do > you know? I am considering being a programmer or developer. > How long will it take for me to master a programming

Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-18 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, in short: how to use "init.d" scripts on Debian? in detail: On one server a init.d script with LSB header does not work, at least when started by command line. I traced down the following: #1 init.d/script sources /lib/lsb/init-functions #2 /lib/lsb/init-functions has support for hooks:

Re: DMARC reports after emails sent to list

2019-10-18 Thread 황병희
Helow Andrew, Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > On 14/10/19 9:42 pm, 황병희 wrote: >> Andrew McGlashan writes: >>> I have DMARC with DKIM and SPF setup for my domain name. >> >> There was related discussion: it's very seriosus... >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754809 > >

Re: Pulseaudio qui ne démarre pas

2019-10-18 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, 15 octobre 2019 18:35 "BERTRAND Joël" a écrit: > Testé. Rien à faire, puseaudio ne démarre pas... Chez moi, PulseAudio est démarré via Systemd en mode utilisateur (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service). N'aurais-tu pas un autre système d'init actif à la place de Systemd ou

Re: what happen to blkid in buster?

2019-10-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:12:11AM +, Long Wind wrote: > how can i run blkid in buster? Let me guess. "I used su in buster, and it didn't change the PATH." https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes

Re: what happen to blkid in buster?

2019-10-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Long Wind wrote: > the real problem is default path for root in X Window I dimly remember various complaints that PATH now does not change if you become superuser. See e.g. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918754 So it is not so much related to X but to your way to become

Re: what happen to blkid in buster?

2019-10-18 Thread Teemu Likonen
Long Wind [2019-10-18T09:12:11Z] wrote: > how can i run blkid in buster? Run it as the root user. -- /// OpenPGP key: 4E1055DC84E9DFF613D78557719D69D324539450 // https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=tliko...@iki.fi / https://keybase.io/tlikonen https://github.com/tlikonen signature.asc

Re: what happen to blkid in buster?

2019-10-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Long Wind wrote: > how can i run blkid in buster? According to apt-file "search" it is in package "util-linux". https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/util-linux/filelist says that it is there as /sbin/blkid If you try "blkid" with the typical $PATH of a non-superuser, then you

what happen to blkid in buster?

2019-10-18 Thread Long Wind
how can i run blkid in buster?

Re: Vem är bäst i landet på C

2019-10-18 Thread Thomas Dahlen
Hej Janne! Nu när jag är klar med mitt dokumenthanteringssystem vill jag passa på och rikta ett stort tack till dig (du som är bäst på c-programmering) för att du med din stora kunskap vägledde mig i valet av programspråk. Jag gjorde som du föreslog och valde bash, html 5 mfl. Du fick mig