Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

> On Dec 30, 2019, at 05:47 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: > > Please show the output of > >systemctl cat YOUR_SERVICE_UNIT > > This will show all additions and overrides to the unit. root@test:~# systemctl cat ipfilter # /usr/lib/systemd/system/ipfilter.service [Unit] Description=packetFilter

Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

> I actually do enjoy off-topic tangents, and [...] Me too, happy new year tomás ^^^ Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 23:05:07) > On Monday 30 December 2019 16:49:14 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > > > > > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > > > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

ghe wrote: > On 12/30/19 3:54 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> Please show us the full output of >> >> systemctl status YOUR_SERVICE_UNIT > root@test:~# systemctl status ipfilter > ● ipfilter.service - packetFilter >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/ipfilter.service; enabled; >

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

On 12/30/19 3:54 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Please show us the full output of > > systemctl status YOUR_SERVICE_UNIT root@test:~# systemctl status ipfilter ● ipfilter.service - packetFilter Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/ipfilter.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

Omg another systemd thread jeez On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 6:12 PM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 30 dec 19, 15:12:54, ghe wrote: > > On 12/30/19 1:08 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > Did you forget to "enable" it? > > > > Nope. It works by hand, and after boot, systemctl status claims it's > >

Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 15:12:54, ghe wrote: > On 12/30/19 1:08 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Did you forget to "enable" it? > > Nope. It works by hand, and after boot, systemctl status claims it's > running. But is isn't. Please show us the full output of systemctl status YOUR_SERVICE_UNIT

Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 10:01:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > But it sure would be nice if the manpages were a little more obvious. > :) Options seem to be well explained but commonly used examples that > one can play with to learn how it works are thin. A good tut that > passed as a manpage would likely

Re: various raspbian x posts

On 12/30/19 3:56 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > And this is the output to exactly what command? Now that's a good question. I really don't remember. There've been so many in the last few days, and that came up very early. -- Glenn English

Re: various raspbian x posts

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 15:50:32, ghe wrote: > On 12/30/19 2:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > I was asking for examples of non-meaningful systemd error messages. Oh > > well... > > I've got one, Andrei: > > "Systemd service ssh cannot be created unless command is given" > > That's systemd saying

Re: various raspbian x posts

On 12/30/19 2:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I was asking for examples of non-meaningful systemd error messages. Oh > well... I've got one, Andrei: "Systemd service ssh cannot be created unless command is given" That's systemd saying it needs a command. Search the web for "systemd command"

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On 12/30/19 1:08 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Did you forget to "enable" it? Nope. It works by hand, and after boot, systemctl status claims it's running. But is isn't. > See also . Already saw it :-) I'm missing something that is going to be patently

Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:34:43PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 30 dec 19, 10:23:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > Chasing us off from asking raspbian related questions here, is a lost > > > cause because [...] > > >

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

On Monday 30 December 2019 16:49:14 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > > > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its contents to > > "debian-arm-devel", and instituting a new

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 10:13:50, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, December 30, 2019 08:48:20 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Chasing us off from asking raspbian related questions here, is a lost > > > cause because they don't have a

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Monday 30 December 2019 15:16:34 Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, ghe wrote: > > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:49:36 > > From: ghe > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq) > > Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:06:09 + (UTC) > >

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 13:14:55, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:49:36 -0700 > ghe wrote: > > > A systemd-user list would be a good idea too. > > I'll second that. -1 from me. There's nothing so special about systemd that would require a dedicated list. Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 10:23:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Chasing us off from asking raspbian related questions here, is a lost > > cause because [...] > > Please, don't misrepresent me. I *never* "chased anyone off" from > asking

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its contents to > "debian-arm-devel", and instituting a new "debian-arm-users" list. Ahhh. We have struggled for ages in Debian

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 15:00:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Yes, debian has a "debian-arm" mailing list but its miss-named as its > actually for debian-arm-devels only as has been made very plain to me on > several occasions when I have posted pleas for user help to it. I've had success with ARM

Re: various raspbian x posts

On Lu, 30 dec 19, 09:39:20, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2019 03:48:54 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Du, 29 dec 19, 18:57:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > [...] > > > > Could you please provide some examples? [sniped stuff on Raspbian and Linux rt kernels] I was asking for examples of

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:49:36 -0700 ghe wrote: > A systemd-user list would be a good idea too. I'll second that. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Monday 30 December 2019 14:49:36 ghe wrote: > Goodness. My asking for a little help with systemd seems to have > started the closest thing to a flame war I remember seeing on a Debian > mailing list. > > I apologize for that, but I learned a lot. SSH works now, but I can't > get my own

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, ghe wrote: > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:49:36 > From: ghe > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq) > Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:06:09 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Goodness. My asking for

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:12 AM Eduardo M KALINOWSKI < edua...@kalinowski.com.br> wrote: > On seg, 30 dez 2019, rhkramer wrote: > > It would not be that hard to create a new mailing list for raspbian > users, > > maybe over on groups.io (can even be done for free). > > There are already support

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:49:36PM -0700, ghe wrote: > SSH works now, but I can't > get my own *.service file to work at boot (does manually, though), but I > now have several things to look for. Did you forget to "enable" it? See also .

Re: RCA Cable to USB Video input device

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:31:57 +0100 Christian Seiler wrote: > the main problem we ran > into were that different chips are sold in the same format - so > just from looking at it from the outside it is unclear what > chip is actually used there. There appears to be Linux support > for some of the

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

Goodness. My asking for a little help with systemd seems to have started the closest thing to a flame war I remember seeing on a Debian mailing list. I apologize for that, but I learned a lot. SSH works now, but I can't get my own *.service file to work at boot (does manually, though), but I now

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

On Monday 30 December 2019 13:26:27 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 18:37:34) > > > On Monday 30 December 2019 11:05:15 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 16:48:20) > > > > > > > On Monday 30 December 2019 10:01:59 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Monday 30 December 2019 12:40:14 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, December 30, 2019 10:40:42 AM Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > There are already support channels for raspbian: > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ . True, it's a forum, not a > > mailing list, but it's probably better

Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:23:27 +0100 wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 29 December 2019 17:19:06 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > Unforch Tomas, we are not likely to see any progress toward acceptance of > > systemd [...] > > I'm not

Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

Quoting Mark Allums (2019-12-30 18:29:07) > > On 12/29/2019 8:44 PM, Andreas wrote: > > I was supposing that Mark's answer implied that (against general > > policies of debian and for reasons unknown to me) in this case > > security changes of upstream would be passed on to debian, even if > >

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 18:37:34) > On Monday 30 December 2019 11:05:15 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 16:48:20) > > > > > On Monday 30 December 2019 10:01:59 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 15:39:20) > > > > > > > > > This

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Monday, December 30, 2019 10:40:42 AM Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > There are already support channels for raspbian: > https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ . True, it's a forum, not a > mailing list, but it's probably better to use that than to split > support in two places. Disclaimer: I don't

Re: RCA Cable to USB Video input device

Hi there, Am 2019-12-14 07:45, schrieb Marc Shapiro: I want to copy some videos from VCR and DVD to my computer for editing (simple stuff, like removing commercials).  I found this device on Amazon:

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

On Monday 30 December 2019 11:38:27 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 30.12.2019 20:18, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 30 December 2019 05:16:51 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >> On 29.12.2019 16:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> On Sunday 29 December 2019 04:42:20 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

On Monday 30 December 2019 11:05:15 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 16:48:20) > > > On Monday 30 December 2019 10:01:59 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 15:39:20) > > > > > > > This one has to do with building a pre-empt-rt kernel for

Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

On 12/29/2019 8:44 PM, Andreas wrote: I was supposing that Mark's answer implied that (against general policies of debian and for reasons unknown to me) in this case security changes of upstream would be passed on to debian, even if binutils is "not covered by security support". If this is

Re: New list for Raspbian?

Eduardo writes: > There are already support channels for raspbian: > https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ . True, it's a forum, not a > mailing list, but it's probably better to use that than to split > support in two places. I found the forums helpful early on (I had a beta board and did some

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

On 30.12.2019 20:18, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2019 05:16:51 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >> On 29.12.2019 16:56, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Sunday 29 December 2019 04:42:20 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 29.12.2019 12:37, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Dear all, >

Re: Off_Topic: Stamtafel [Was: Re: ip / mac / arp probleem]

Hoi, Ik zelf heb helemaal geen bezwaar tegen dit soort berichten hier op debian-user-dutch. Zo'n drukke lijst is het nu ook weer niet. :-) Ik zelf zou me denk ik niet snel erbij abonneren op iets als debian-stammtisch...@lists.debian.org Licht off-topic, maar wel gerelateerd aan debian /

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On seg, 30 dez 2019, rhkramer wrote: It would not be that hard to create a new mailing list for raspbian users, maybe over on groups.io (can even be done for free). There are already support channels for raspbian: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ . True, it's a forum, not a mailing

Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Monday 30 December 2019 10:13:50 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, December 30, 2019 08:48:20 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Chasing us off from asking raspbian related questions here, is a > > > lost cause because they

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 16:48:20) > On Monday 30 December 2019 10:01:59 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 15:39:20) > > > > > This one has to do with building a pre-empt-rt kernel for armhf, > > > which allows linuxcnc to run in uspace. But subjectwise it

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

On Monday 30 December 2019 10:01:59 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 15:39:20) > > > This one has to do with building a pre-empt-rt kernel for armhf, > > which allows linuxcnc to run in uspace. But subjectwise it wanders > > badly but I'd like to show one full chain of

New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)

On Monday, December 30, 2019 08:48:20 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Chasing us off from asking raspbian related questions here, is a lost > > cause because they don't have a mailing list, but a forum generally > > populated by uppity

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

On Monday 30 December 2019 05:16:51 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 29.12.2019 16:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 29 December 2019 04:42:20 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >> On 29.12.2019 12:37, shirish शिरीष wrote: > >>> Dear all, > >>> > >>> Last year I had read some articles when I

Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

On Monday 30 December 2019 04:23:27 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 29 December 2019 17:19:06 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > Unforch Tomas, we are not likely to see any progress toward > > acceptance of systemd [...] >

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 15:39:20) > This one has to do with building a pre-empt-rt kernel for armhf, which > allows linuxcnc to run in uspace. But subjectwise it wanders badly but > I'd like to show one full chain of recent events: [ Raspbian details snipped ] How do Debian with

various raspbian x posts

On Monday 30 December 2019 03:48:54 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 29 dec 19, 18:57:12, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > > Could you please provide some examples? This one has to do with building a pre-empt-rt kernel for armhf, which allows linuxcnc to run in uspace. But subjectwise it wanders badly

Re: bateria notebook

Se o processador for intel tem o powertop. Dependendo do fabricante há modulos especificos no kernel. No meu mac eu melhorei bastante recompilando. Ao encaminhar esta mensagem, por favor: 1 - Apague meu endereço eletrônico; 2 - Encaminhe como Cópia Oculta (Cco ou BCc) aos seus destinatários.

Re: systemdq

On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Chasing us off from asking raspbian related questions here, is a lost > cause because they don't have a mailing list, but a forum generally > populated by uppity folks, [...] That does not mean you can post Raspbian problems HERE.

Re: systemdq

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 02:57:40PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > Debian (not rasbian) seems to put sshd into place at installation time. > > charles@hawk:~$ locate sshd.service > /etc/systemd/system/sshd.service > /var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/sshd.service > charles@hawk:~$ > >

bateria notebook

Meus amigos, bom dia! tenho testado o CPUFreq e pretendo testar agora o TLP no Debian 10. Quero encontrar um pacote que melhore o desempenho da bateria do meu notebook e me permita decidir por prolongá-la ou não. Alguém tem alguma experiência com algum desses pacotes para me fazer uma

Off_Topic: Stamtafel [Was: Re: ip / mac / arp probleem]

On 27/12/2019 21:02, mj wrote: > Hoi, > > Tikkeltje off-topic, hopelijk stoort niemand zich eraan... anders bij > voorbaat: excuus... Helemaal niet en misschien is het niet verkeerd om voor dit soort vragen, welke niet specifiek Debian gerelateerd zijn, een stamtafel in het leven te roepen.

Re: Archivage avec Thunderbird

Au-delà de la phrase indiquée peu engageante : "Vous utilisez l'extension à vos risques et périls. Certains utilisateurs (peu) ont reporté avoir perdu des données.", j'ai surtout l'impression qu'il s'agit d'archivage entre un dossier IMAP et un dossier local. Or, mon besoin est un transfert entre

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

On 29.12.2019 16:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 December 2019 04:42:20 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >> On 29.12.2019 12:37, shirish शिरीष wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Last year I had read some articles when I was looking to build a >>> system there seemed to problems with hybrid drives.

Re: systemdq

Hi. On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:33:28AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > dpkg would not even warn if one would install packages from one on the > other (they are both "armhf"), but the result is hard to predict. For Raspberry Pi the result was predictable. If a package was providing a

On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 06:57:12PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 December 2019 17:19:06 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Unforch Tomas, we are not likely to see any progress toward acceptance of > systemd [...] I'm not asking for "acceptance of systemd" or something (FWIW I still

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

On 29.12.2019 15:49, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Hi all, > > I read Alexander's reply with interest at [1] . > > @Alexander, thank you for taking time to answer my question/s . Maybe > you can CC me the next time :) > > What was also interesting in your answer was the use of dark marketing > practises

Re: systemdq

On Du, 29 dec 19, 18:57:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 December 2019 17:19:06 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 05:11:18PM -0500, chris wrote: > > > There's nothing wrong with not being a fan of systemd. > > > > Absolutely not. Myself, I'm not a fan either. > > > > >

Re: Archivage avec Thunderbird

Le dimanche 29 décembre 2019 12:40:03 UTC+1, David BERCOT a écrit : [...] > Je cherche encore ;-) > > David. Erwan (je crois) a mentionné le module Autoarchive qui n'est plus maintenu. Une petite recherche m'a informé que: - Mozilla considère bien en standard que l'archivage est manuel et pas

Re: systemdq

On Du, 29 dec 19, 15:01:21, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Andrei POPESCU (2019-12-29 14:21:30) > > > > Raspbian (note the 'B') was created because Debian's armhf port requires > > an ARMv7 processor, whereas the original Raspberry Pi (Raspberry Pi 1 > > model B) is ARMv6. > > Raspbian

Re: systemdq

On Du, 29 dec 19, 11:23:33, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 29 December 2019 08:21:30 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Debian also has an armhf port[1]. > > Not at all obvious from the available downloads selections. I can only guess you are expecting to find ready-made images. Considering the

Re: systemdq [Solved]

On Du, 29 dec 19, 14:57:19, ghe wrote: > > Amazing. I'm a self-taught *nix geek, but I've never seen a release > without SSH. Not since I figured out what SSH is, anyway. Makes me > question the sanity of the otherwise quite rational 'Pi folks. Depending on what you mean by "release" Debian

Re: systemdq [Solved]

On Du, 29 dec 19, 20:21:48, Reco wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 09:40:29AM -0700, ghe wrote: > > Somebody just forgot to enable SSH while preparing the Raspian Buster > > release, it looks like. > > Nope. It was deliberate - [1] (note the "ssh" part). > > > > And I didn't know enough about