Upgrade from buster........

2021-08-14 Thread Charlie
From my keyboard: Attempted to upgrade my Buster system to Bullseye, on an older Dell lappy. Which I thought would be quick and seamless as it was from the previous version of Debian. Stretch I think? So did an apt update, received the messages that Buster was

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread lou
On 8/14/21 11:32 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: The "-standard" in the image name means that this is a "Standard" Debian installation, with no Desktop Environment. It probably doesn't have an X server either, or X fonts, or any of the other things you would need in order to actually run an X

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:03:37PM -0400, lou wrote: > i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it > > X app are included, but how to start X Window? The "-standard" in the image name means that this is a "Standard" Debian installation, with no Desktop Environment.

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 15/8/21 11:22 am, lou wrote: and what is password for root? You should be able to do sudo passwd root and set your own password -- Jeremy OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread lou
On 8/14/21 11:08 PM, Weaver wrote: At the prompt, type `startx'. Depending on permissions, you may need to become root. Cheers! Harry. startx don't seem to be included in ISO image and what is password for root?

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread Weaver
On 15-08-2021 13:03, lou wrote: > i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it > > X app are included, but how to start X Window? At the prompt, type `startx'. Depending on permissions, you may need to become root. Cheers! Harry. -- `Unthinking respect for

how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread lou
i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it X app are included, but how to start X Window?

Re: Internal server error 500 for bugs.debian.org pkgreport of apt-listchanges

2021-08-14 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/14/21, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/14/21, Brian Thompson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm getting a 500 error when trying to access the apt-listchanges, apt, >> and apt-listdifferences pkgreports on bugs.debian.org. It looks

Re: Internal server error 500 for bugs.debian.org pkgreport of apt-listchanges

2021-08-14 Thread Brian Thompson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2021-08-14 at 22:42 -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Would Developers *very recently* flipping the release switch for > buster/bullseye/bookworm affect that? > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2021/08/msg1.html > >

Re: Internal server error 500 for bugs.debian.org pkgreport of apt-listchanges

2021-08-14 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/14/21, Brian Thompson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hello everyone, > > I'm getting a 500 error when trying to access the apt-listchanges, apt, > and apt-listdifferences pkgreports on bugs.debian.org. It looks like > there is a problem with all of the

Internal server error 500 for bugs.debian.org pkgreport of apt-listchanges

2021-08-14 Thread Brian Thompson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello everyone, I'm getting a 500 error when trying to access the apt-listchanges, apt, and apt-listdifferences pkgreports on bugs.debian.org. It looks like there is a problem with all of the pkgreports. Here is one of the URLs:

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Nevertheless there are rare cases only root can make changes. You mean cases where `sudo zsh -l` is not an option? Stefan

debian11 early - apt-get update - At least one invalid signature was encountered

2021-08-14 Thread raf
Hi, Firstly, many thanks for debian-11. I've been looking forward to the newer bind9 and its dnssec-policy finally making it trivial to implement DNSSEC on a stable system. Yay! My problem: A day or two ago, I tried to upgrade to debian-11 on a little VM on my laptop and I've run into a problem.

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-14 9:08 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 08:52:19PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> I got a series of line saying N and one saying E: >> >> N: Repository 'http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease' >> changed its 'Suite' value from

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 08:52:19PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I got a series of line saying N and one saying E: > > N: Repository 'http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease' > changed its 'Suite' value from 'stable' to 'oldstable' > N: Repository

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-14 7:45 p.m., The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-14 at 19:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:26:44PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >>> The warnings I'd be OK with; I might even be OK with the errors, >>> except for the fact that they point not to anything with

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-14 7:06 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 06:26:07PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> I had enough trouble with this at the last Debian release, > > ... but not this time, right? > >> For anyone who uses 'apt-get update' - and, I suspect, any other tool >> than 'apt'

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Weaver
On 15-08-2021 10:02, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-14 at 19:49, Brad Rogers wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:32 -0400 Greg Wooledge >> wrote: >> >> Hello Greg, >> >>> It will be interesting to see if anyone else reports the same >>> problem you're seeing. >> >> I experienced it here. >>

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-14 at 19:49, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:32 -0400 Greg Wooledge > wrote: > > Hello Greg, > >> It will be interesting to see if anyone else reports the same >> problem you're seeing. > > I experienced it here. > > I usually use Synaptic to perform updates.

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:28:32 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >It will be interesting to see if anyone else reports the same problem >you're seeing. I experienced it here. I usually use Synaptic to perform updates. Synaptic put up the warning message about the codename change, but I

Re: Debian 11 is released!

2021-08-14 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 22:54:12 +0100 piorunz Informed me about Debian 11 is released! > Thanks all Debian devs and users, after over 2 years, new version is > here! I am running it already on two computers and couldn't be more > happier :) > > > -- > > With kindest regards,

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-14 at 19:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:26:44PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> The warnings I'd be OK with; I might even be OK with the errors, >> except for the fact that they point not to anything with useful >> information but to a place which doesn't actually

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:26:44PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > See bug #879786, and the various bugs that have been merged into it > (listed near the very bottom, IIRC). Man, some people have the most *bizarre* setups. And then when someone points it out, they act all confused. :-/ Most of the

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:12:30PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > Maybe somehow I'm running an older apt-get version than what has the > fix(es)? But as far as I know that's shipped in the 'apt' package, and I > have that at version 2.2.4, which is what's currently in both stable and > testing

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-14 at 19:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 06:26:07PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> > E: Repository 'http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable InRelease' changed >> > its 'Codename' value from 'buster' to 'bullseye' >> > N: This must be accepted explicitly before

Re: Debian 11 is released!

2021-08-14 Thread lou
Thank piorunz! i'll install it today PS: www.debian.org hasn't published the news, 1st item in Project News is bad news (mourning)

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 06:26:07PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > E: Repository 'http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable InRelease' changed > > its 'Codename' value from 'buster' to 'bullseye' > > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can > > be applied. See

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-14 at 19:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 06:26:07PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> I had enough trouble with this at the last Debian release, > > ... but not this time, right? Yes, this time; in fact... >> For anyone who uses 'apt-get update' - and, I suspect,

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 06:26:07PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I had enough trouble with this at the last Debian release, ... but not this time, right? > For anyone who uses 'apt-get update' - and, I suspect, any other tool > than 'apt' itself - to update the list of available packages from the

PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-14 Thread The Wanderer
I had enough trouble with this at the last Debian release, and came close enough to having trouble with it again this time, that I want to make sure the solution is available and findable for anyone else who may need it. For anyone who uses 'apt-get update' - and, I suspect, any other tool than

Re: Debian 11 is released!

2021-08-14 Thread James B
Well done to all - long live Debian!. Heartfelt congratulations and thanks from a long term user who wishes he could contribute more back :( -- James B portoteache...@fastmail.com Em Sáb, 14 Ago ʼ21, às 22:54, piorunz escreveu: > Thanks all Debian devs and users, after over 2 years,

Re: Debian 11 estable en poques hores

2021-08-14 Thread Eduard Selma
El 12/8/21 a les 22:35, a...@probeta.net ha escrit: Bona calorosa nit, Sembla que tindrem nova Debian estable aquest dissabte, 14 d'agost, en unes hores.    https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyBullseye He posat unes cervesetes a la nevera per celebrar-ho. Brindaré Per la nova Debian,

Debian 11 is released!

2021-08-14 Thread piorunz
Thanks all Debian devs and users, after over 2 years, new version is here! I am running it already on two computers and couldn't be more happier :) -- With kindest regards, piorunz. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:00:39 -0400 Thomas George wrote: > Nevertheless there are rare cases only root can make changes. > > What to do? Check out "sudo -i". -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Aug 2021 at 15:31:07 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-14 2:44 p.m., Brian wrote: [...] > > > A Mopria-certified printer is not a reliable indicator of driverless > > printing being possible on Debian. > > > > If you say so, I'll agree with you because

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread ellanios82
On 8/15/21 12:31 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: Press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to attempt to reach a text console. If that's successful, then he can login there (as root) and attempt to install whatever's required to fix the problem  - that Text Console has letters too small for my poor eyesight :(  - is

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 01:50:29PM -0700, Weaver wrote: > On 15-08-2021 06:39, lou wrote: > > more complete translation of subject: > > > > after debian installation, first boot fails, cursor in upper-left corner > > blinks > > >From that, it sounds as if the installation has been successful,

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-14 3:51 p.m., Curt wrote: > On 2021-08-14, Michael Howard wrote: >> On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote: > >>> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church >>> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.) >>> >> >> Please take this shit off list! >> >

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-14 Thread Nicolas George
Thomas George (12021-08-14): > The installation from a usb stick went smoothly. Everything works sudo > commands work so I will rarely need to log on as root. > > Nevertheless there are rare cases only root can make changes. > > What to do? sudo passwd Regards, -- Nicolas George

password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-14 Thread Thomas George
The installation from a usb stick went smoothly. Everything works sudo commands work so I will rarely need to log on as root. Nevertheless there are rare cases only root can make changes. What to do?

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread mick crane
On 2021-08-14 21:39, lou wrote: more complete translation of subject: after debian installation, first boot fails, cursor in upper-left corner blinks Grub not finding the kernel ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread Weaver
On 15-08-2021 06:39, lou wrote: > more complete translation of subject: > > after debian installation, first boot fails, cursor in upper-left corner > blinks >From that, it sounds as if the installation has been successful, but he has omitted to install a desktop environment. He is still in a

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread lou
more complete translation of subject: after debian installation, first boot fails, cursor in upper-left corner blinks

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread Weaver
On 15-08-2021 06:32, lou wrote: > Antonio Russo, you don't understand Chinese language? i'm afraid you can't > help > > OP might not understand English > > in OP's subject, he says debian installation fails, cursor in > upper-left corner blinks > > in OP's message body, he want to you to

Re: Debian 11 estable en poques hores

2021-08-14 Thread Jordi
El ds. 14 de 08 de 2021 a les 21:09 +0200, en/na a...@probeta.net va escriure: > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html > S'ha de reconèixer que fa una mica de respecte tot això ... Salutacions Jordi

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread lou
Antonio Russo, you don't understand Chinese language? i'm afraid you can't help OP might not understand English in OP's subject, he says debian installation fails, cursor in upper-left corner blinks in OP's message body, he want to you to explain message in journal: the unit

Re: Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

2021-08-14 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
13.08.2021, 01:35, "Bret Busby" :On 11/8/21 11:03 pm, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: The report is now available in Debian Salsa: https://salsa.debian.org/linuxhw/TestCoverage/-/tree/main/Dist/Debian_11  Hello all! See report here [1]. We have ~400 computers tested on Debian 11 at the moment. 10% of

Re: Hors sujet

2021-08-14 Thread Haricophile
Le Tue, 10 Aug 2021 21:16:25 +0200, Georges a écrit : > Nous utilisions Claws-mail et je l'ai installé sur son W10. > Mais je suis incapable de trouver ou W10 enregistre les courriers > pour lui copier ses anciens dossiers de Debian. J'arrive après la bataille, mais concernant les boites aux

moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-14 Thread Marco Möller
Dear moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere. This list recently is flooded with never ending arguing, and respect and politeness too often got lost. Same here as already for Michael Howards "Fwd: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)". See attachment below. Marco

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Michael Howard
On 14/08/2021 20:51, Curt wrote: On 2021-08-14, Michael Howard wrote: On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote: Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.) Please take this shit off list! IP overwrought, is that it?

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-14, Michael Howard wrote: > On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote: >> Don't forget IP over drums, and of course IP over lanterns in church >> steeples ("Two if by sea", etc.) >> > > Please take this shit off list! > IP overwrought, is that it?

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-14 2:35 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 01:27:43PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Charlie Gibbs writes: >>> Some people will respond by switching to a different e-mail address in >>> order to work around the killfiles they know they're now in. >> >> Fortunately

Fwd: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Michael Howard
and her is an off list reply reply from the less than honourable Polyna Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 15:41:22 -0400 From: Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside To: Michael Howard On

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Marco Möller
On 14.08.21 21:35, Michael Howard wrote: Give the normal amongst us a break. This stuff is NOT debian, it is social ineptitude and it has to stop. Form yourselves a chat group somewhere, just NOT here. Please? -- Michael Howard. +1 --- Marco

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Michael Howard
On 14/08/2021 20:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, On 2021-08-14 2:53 p.m., Michael Howard wrote: On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500 John Hasler wrote: tomas writes: But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? Yup.  Back in the

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-14 2:44 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 19:03:23 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> On 2021-08-12 6:27 p.m., Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 15:33:26 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> >>> Please give a link at the Mopria website

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-14 2:53 p.m., Michael Howard wrote: > On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500 >> John Hasler wrote: >> >>> tomas writes: But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? >>> Yup.  Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. 

Re: Debian 11 estable en poques hores

2021-08-14 Thread alex
https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Michael Howard
On 14/08/2021 16:08, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500 John Hasler wrote: tomas writes: But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. Earlier yet we used heliograph. Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-14 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 19:03:23 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-12 6:27 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 15:33:26 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > Please give a link at the Mopria website substantiating your clain that > > a Mopria

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 01:27:43PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Charlie Gibbs writes: > > Some people will respond by switching to a different e-mail address in > > order to work around the killfiles they know they're now in. > > Fortunately Gnus can filter on things such as substrings of message

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread Antonio Russo
Sorry, I didn't translate your title. (In the future, it's good form to include all important information in the body of an email, even if it duplicates the title.) Does pressing CTRL-ALT-F2 give you a login prompt? Is there any other text on the screen besides that single message you have

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread John Hasler
Charlie Gibbs writes: > Some people will respond by switching to a different e-mail address in > order to work around the killfiles they know they're now in. Fortunately Gnus can filter on things such as substrings of message IDs and other identifying header features that the trolls are unaware

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sat Aug 14 10:23:31 2021 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote: > >> Stefan writes: >> >>> How odd. I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style >>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly. >> >> No. I was there when

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread Antonio Russo
On 8/14/21 10:35 AM, 先生陳 wrote: > 查journal 最後是 >  the unit systemd-hostname.service has successfully entered the 'dead' state > 是怎回事? Hello, Please give the output of the two commands: # LC_ALL=C systemctl status systemd-hostnamed # LC_ALL=C systemctl status systemd-hostname The service file

Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread 先生陳
查journal 最後是 the unit systemd-hostname.service has successfully entered the 'dead' state 是怎回事?

Re: HP plat fair with drivers?

2021-08-14 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Sat, Aug 14 2021 at 07:02:31 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 11/8/21 00:14, Nicolas George wrote: >> Based on past experience, I am favoring HP, because AFAIK they mostly >> play fair about Libre drivers > > Good afternoon > > I'd like to agree that HP plays fair with drivers. > > A friend

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 07:37:00 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? > > Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. Earlier > yet we used heliograph. Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but > worked. And, of course, pigeons.

Re: [OFFTOPIC] CoCo and oldies (was : 1149 (was: lonk / was: Meta: behavior on list))

2021-08-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-14 9:16 a.m., Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 14 August 2021 08:44:44 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:37:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: >>> tomas writes: But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? >>> >>> Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over

Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list))

2021-08-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 14 August 2021 08:44:44 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:37:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > tomas writes: > > > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? > > > > Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. Earlier > > yet we used heliograph.

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread Erwan David
Le 14/08/2021 à 14:37, John Hasler a écrit : > tomas writes: >> But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? > Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. Earlier yet > we used heliograph. Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but worked. > And, of course, pigeons. I have a

Re: [OFFTOPIC] 1149 (was: lonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list))

2021-08-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:37:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? > > Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. Earlier yet > we used heliograph. Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but worked. > And, of course,

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > But... Usenet was /before/ 'phone, wasn't it? Yup. Back in the 1860s we did UUCP over manual telegraph. Earlier yet we used heliograph. Signal fires on hilltops were slow, but worked. And, of course, pigeons. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 18:29:02 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > I'm using a Xerox B205 MFC and it's fully supported. Yes it's laser but > the reason I am writing this message regard something else. > > It's the support of MOPRIA. Looks like an idea worth examining. Let's

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 10:59:04AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > Be considerate to each other. Be polite - be helpful. [...] Thanks, Andrew :) > Trying to make Debian a better place starts one post at a time. That's one > of the reasons why I volunteer for the Debian community team.

Re: [OT] browsable archive of OFTC debian channels?

2021-08-14 Thread Marco Möller
On 14.08.21 13:36, Linux-Fan wrote: Andrew M.A. Cater writes: On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 01:05:00PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: > > Hello! Is there somewhere publicly accessible an archive of the > conversations taking place in the #debian[*] OFTC channels? Would be great, > because I am not

Re: Debian 11 estable en poques hores

2021-08-14 Thread Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura
Bon dia Jordi i companyia, Habitualment a la pàgina de la versió estable s'hi indica com fer-ho, quan Bullseye esdevingui estable, actualitzaran la plana i ho podràs trobar: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ i https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes que conte les

Re: [OT] browsable archive of OFTC debian channels?

2021-08-14 Thread Linux-Fan
Andrew M.A. Cater writes: On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 01:05:00PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: > > Hello! Is there somewhere publicly accessible an archive of the > conversations taking place in the #debian[*] OFTC channels? Would be great, > because I am not constantly online and thus am unable to

Re: [OT] browsable archive of OFTC debian channels?

2021-08-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 01:05:00PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: > > Hello! Is there somewhere publicly accessible an archive of the > conversations taking place in the #debian[*] OFTC channels? Would be great, > because I am not constantly online and thus am unable to fully follow > conversations

Re: Debian 11 estable en poques hores

2021-08-14 Thread Jordi
Bon dia, algú em pot dirigir correctament a algun enllaç on expliqui clarament com actualitzar des de Buster?? gracies Jordi El dj. 12 de 08 de 2021 a les 22:35 +0200, en/na a...@probeta.net va escriure: > Bona calorosa nit, > > Sembla que tindrem nova Debian estable aquest dissabte, 14

[OT] browsable archive of OFTC debian channels?

2021-08-14 Thread Marco Möller
Hello! Is there somewhere publicly accessible an archive of the conversations taking place in the #debian[*] OFTC channels? Would be great, because I am not constantly online and thus am unable to fully follow conversations there. --- Always stay in good spirits! Marco

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:41:40PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > deloptes wrote: > > @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and > > a waste of time. > > You should have stopped here. > > > > I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I

Re: Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

2021-08-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 06:12:54AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 11/8/21 11:03 pm, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: > > The report is now available in Debian Salsa: > > https://salsa.debian.org/linuxhw/TestCoverage/-/tree/main/Dist/Debian_11 > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > See report here [1]. We

Re: Root location

2021-08-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:11:37PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-13 11:47 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > Thx to Polyna especially, for telling me that I have x86-64 machine. Do > > not yet know x86 part but 64bit it certainly is. > > In Mint 32bit i686 still.

HP plat fair with drivers?

2021-08-14 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 11/8/21 00:14, Nicolas George wrote: Based on past experience, I am favoring HP, because AFAIK they mostly play fair about Libre drivers Good afternoon I'd like to agree that HP plays fair with drivers. A friend bought a HP laptop last year. His favoured distro is Mint(bunt) which I have

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-14 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 04:12:10PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de [2021-08-13 19:11:43] wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > > [...] > >> Plonk ? [...] > > [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html > > How