WARNING: debian11 + bind-9.16.15 + dnssec-policy in options{} = crashes

2021-08-15 Thread raf
Hi, If like me, you've been eagerly awaiting debian11 to get bind-9.16.15, which finally lets you implement DNSSEC extremely easily on debian stable, I have a warning. Bind has a dnssec-policy {} stanza for defining your own policy if you're feeling adventurous, but there's also a default

Re: Upgrade from buster........

2021-08-15 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:32:01 -0400 Greg Informed me about Re: Upgrade from buster > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 02:34:59PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > > But didn't upgrade because of failure running > > /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt > > I'm wondering if the failures of

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-15 10:26 p.m., Jeremy Ardley wrote: > > On 16/8/21 10:17 am, Weaver wrote: >> >> Any idiot can edit a page there. >> Cheers! >> >> Harry. >> > And they frequently do! > > Yesterday I looked up 'harmonic analysis' of which I am a subject > expert. The article was virtually

Re: [Going OFFTOPIC ] Harmonic Analysis ( was: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere)

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-15 10:26 p.m., Jeremy Ardley wrote: > > On 16/8/21 10:17 am, Weaver wrote: >> >> Any idiot can edit a page there. >> Cheers! >> >> Harry. >> > And they frequently do! > > Yesterday I looked up 'harmonic analysis' of which I am a subject > expert. The article was virtually

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 16/8/21 10:17 am, Weaver wrote: Any idiot can edit a page there. Cheers! Harry. And they frequently do! Yesterday I looked up 'harmonic analysis' of which I am a subject expert. The article was virtually incomprehensible to me. But worse, it almost completely missed what it is about -

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread Weaver
On 16-08-2021 11:56, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 16/8/21 9:45 am, Weaver wrote: >> >> By reputation, the list is unmoderated, and that's the way it used to >> be. >> It still bears the token title of an unmoderated list but, in reality, a >> small collective of the politically correct have placed it

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 16/8/21 9:45 am, Weaver wrote: By reputation, the list is unmoderated, and that's the way it used to be. It still bears the token title of an unmoderated list but, in reality, a small collective of the politically correct have placed it under their auspices to moderate it. They have all the

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread Weaver
On 16-08-2021 11:29, lou wrote: > Andrew, i thought you r moderator because you post monthly list guideline > > and you speak kindly with some authority when some list user deviate By reputation, the list is unmoderated, and that's the way it used to be. It still bears the token title of an

Re: Ya es versión estable Debian 11 Bullseye?

2021-08-15 Thread Abogado
El 15/8/21 a las 17:16, miguel angel gonzalez escribió: Hola, Ya está Debian 11 estable disponible, desde ayer. Uno de los pasos es cambiar los repositorios, pero no sólo los de seguridad, todos. Te dejo la información oficial:

Re: Ya es versión estable Debian 11 Bullseye?

2021-08-15 Thread Abogado
El 15/8/21 a las 16:07, JavierDebian escribió: El 15/8/21 a las 11:28, José Manuel (Abogado) escribió: Hola Unas preguntas: 1º  ¿ya es versión estable Debian 11 (bullseye)? si es sí, debemos cambiar el repositorio de seguridad por este: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-15 9:29 p.m., lou wrote: > Andrew, i thought you r moderator because you post monthly list guideline > > and you speak kindly with some authority when some list user deviate > Andrew is a active community member who gives lots of time for all of us. I think he's (pick a word) in

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread lou
Andrew, i thought you r moderator because you post monthly list guideline and you speak kindly with some authority when some list user deviate

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Rick Thomas
Synaptic has a button to (essentially) run "apt update" It's in the upper left corner of the window and labeled "Reload" and if you hover over it, it says "reload the package information to become informed about new, removed or upgraded software packages". HTH! Rick

Re: debian11 early - apt-get update - At least one invalid signature [OK NOW] was encountered

2021-08-15 Thread jeremy ardley
On 16/08/2021 7:19 am, raf wrote: It's working now on the original VM. Someone else reported that keys have finally made it to a German mirror, solving a similar problem for them. I guess I was having the same A problem with the Australian mirror. But maybe that's just a guess. The keys

Re: debian11 early - apt-get update - At least one invalid signature [OK NOW] was encountered

2021-08-15 Thread raf
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 06:47:34PM +1000, raf wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:24:13AM +0200, john doe > wrote: > > > The below assumes that 'sources.list' is set only for bullseye > > > > Some hints more than an answer: > > - Try to remove the gpg keys in '/etc/apt' directory. > > - Try

Sources list with contrib repositories on DVD-1

2021-08-15 Thread Ramon Mulin
Hello everybody. The DVD-1 image is coming with contrib enabled on the cd-rom, security and update lines. This is normal? The netinstall image is just with main. P.S.: Sorry for my english. Ramon Mulin Professor de História

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-15 2:25 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 20:13:55 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > >> man synaptic says « It allows you to perform all actions of the command line >> tool apt-get in a graphical environemnt. » >> >> In the help manual I read « Reload the package information to be

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-15 3:34 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 22:13:07 +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > >> Hi. >> After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me to >> put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, but >> wasn't in ETC. > > [...] >

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-15 3:13 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Hi. > After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me > to put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, > but wasn't in ETC. > > How and what to write in fstab? > > You tell me to specify

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-15 4:31 p.m., Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:13:07PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: >> Hi. >> After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me to >> put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, but >> wasn't in ETC.

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 10:01:37PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: > Dear moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere. > This list recently is flooded with never ending arguing, and respect and > politeness too often got lost. > > Same here as already for Michael Howards "Fwd: [OFFTOPIC]

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-15 3:13 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Hi. > After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me > to put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, > but wasn't in ETC. > > How and what to write in fstab? >

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-15 3:13 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Hi. > After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me > to put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, > but wasn't in ETC. > > How and what to write in fstab? > > You tell me to specify

Re: docker image of bullseye is outdated

2021-08-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:15:45PM +0300, илья пащук wrote: > docker image of debian bullseye should be updated to reflect it's release. There is a message on debian-boot (and -devel) here about it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2021/08/msg00096.html I'm not sure that the Debian

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:13:07PM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Hi. > After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me to > put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, but > wasn't in ETC. > > How and what to write in fstab? > > You tell me to

Debian 11 Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Christophe_VANHOUTTE
Bonjour, Ca y estn elle est arrivée la Debian 11. https://bits.debian.org/2021/08/bullseye-released.html Mais peut-être que vous le saviez déjà !? Christophe -- Debian Duster 10.8|Kernel 4.19.0-14-amd64|Xorg 1.20.4 & Xfce 4.12 http://www.debian.org #

Re: Debian 11 estable en poques hores

2021-08-15 Thread Josep Lladonosa
Hola, Us escric ja des d'una Debian 11 escriptori xfce4 actualitzada des de Debian 10.10. Ha conservat totes les dades del directori d'inici (/home/usuari); n'havia fet còpia prèviament per si de cas. * Avisos que he tingut durant l'actualització (fitxers que podien quedar substituïts):

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:32:43 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: Hello Roger, >Thanks to all those who replied. It should have seen and understood >"reload" To be fair, it's not immediately obvious what Reload does. It could just be the displayed list of packages, for example. Especially if

Re: docker image of bullseye is outdated

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 22:15:45 +0300, илья пащук wrote: > docker image of debian bullseye should be updated to reflect it's release. Sounds like a good idea. Please submit a wishlist bug against the package. -- Brian.

Re: Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 22:13:07 +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Hi. > After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me to > put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, but > wasn't in ETC. [...] This isn't a concern of Debian. Please take it

docker image of bullseye is outdated

2021-08-15 Thread илья пащук
hello. docker image of debian bullseye should be updated to reflect it's release.

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 20:13:55 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: always run apt update manually before clicking on synaptic? No, just hit Synaptic's reload button. Thanks to all those who replied. It should have seen and understood "reload". Roger

Grub efi etc

2021-08-15 Thread Gunnar Gervin
Hi. After I put EFI in sda1 Refracta installer was not satisfied and told me to put 'boot installer' in, and write some (unspecified) text in fstab, but wasn't in ETC. How and what to write in fstab? You tell me to specify question. How to specify a total mess? I'm trying to put a (Debian fork),

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Siard
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 20:45:17 +0200 (CEST), Roger Price wrote: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2021, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 20:13:55 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > > > > > Does this mean that synaptic does _not_ call apt update, and that I > > > should always run apt update manually before clicking

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
Greg Wooledge [2021-08-15 10:30:27] wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:13:37PM +0200, sp...@caiway.net wrote: >> lou what about >> # apt install xorg fluxbox >> >> $ startx > > In theory that might work (you may also need firmware), but the amount > of bandwidth you'd burn through downloading

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 20:13:55 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: Hello Roger, >always run apt update manually before clicking on synaptic? No, just hit Synaptic's reload button. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> You don't really get that far if your root FS is unmountable. Hmm... if it truly can't be mounted, then the system can't read `/etc/passwd` and then whether there is a root account or not makes no difference. In the "usual" case where the root FS is readable but fsck found errors, then indeed

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021, Brian wrote: On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 20:13:55 +0200, Roger Price wrote: Does this mean that synaptic does _not_ call apt update, and that I should always run apt update manually before clicking on synaptic? Some experiments suggest that this is the case. You would have to

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, August 15, 2021 12:13 PM, Roger Price wrote: > Does this mean that synaptic does not call apt update, and that I should > always run apt update manually before clicking on synaptic? Not sure, but I

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Joe
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 20:13:55 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: > man synaptic says « It allows you to perform all actions of the > command line tool apt-get in a graphical environemnt. » > > In the help manual I read « Reload the package information to be > aware of the latest versions available:

Re: Fwd: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-15 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2021-08-14 at 20:44 +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > and her is an off list reply reply from the less than honourable Polyna I killfiled them weeks ago, I don't know why people do just do similar and move on...

Re: Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 20:13:55 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > man synaptic says « It allows you to perform all actions of the command line > tool apt-get in a graphical environemnt. » > > In the help manual I read « Reload the package information to be aware of > the latest versions available: » >

Always run apt update before clicking on synaptic ?

2021-08-15 Thread Roger Price
man synaptic says « It allows you to perform all actions of the command line tool apt-get in a graphical environemnt. » In the help manual I read « Reload the package information to be aware of the latest versions available: » Does this mean that synaptic does _not_ call apt update, and that

Re: Gnome extensions

2021-08-15 Thread Keith Christian
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021, 10:58 Georgios wrote: > Hi! > I upgraded from debian 10 to debian 11 today and I noticed that a gnome > extension I really liked dont work on the latest gnome. > George, See: https://github.com/passingthru67/workspaces-to-dock - Keith

Gnome extensions

2021-08-15 Thread Georgios
Hi! I upgraded from debian 10 to debian 11 today and I noticed that a gnome extension I really liked dont work on the latest gnome. More specifically I used "workspace to dock" in order to have access to workspaces. I just put the mouse on the right side and the workspace list that is viewed on

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Evelyn, On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 06:00:08PM +0200, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > E: The repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security > bullseye/updates Release' does not have a Release file. A few people have by now pointed out the specific cause of your problem, but the root cause

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 18:15:36 CEST schrieb Frank: Yes, this was a typo, sorry for that. Best Hans > Op 15-08-2021 om 18:01 schreef Hans: > > Hi all, > > > > discovered something. It looks like the keys are still not synced to the > > mirrors. > > > > I changed from ftp.de.debian.org

Re: Ya es versión estable Debian 11 Bullseye?

2021-08-15 Thread miguel angel gonzalez
Hola, Ya está Debian 11 estable disponible, desde ayer. Uno de los pasos es cambiar los repositorios, pero no sólo los de seguridad, todos. Te dejo la información oficial: https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/arm64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.es.html Un saludo. El dom, 15 ago 2021 a las

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Frank
Op 15-08-2021 om 18:01 schreef Hans: Hi all, discovered something. It looks like the keys are still not synced to the mirrors. I changed from ftp.de.debian.org to deb.debian.org, and all is working like a charm. So, I suppose, this issue might be solved. But it would be nice to add a package

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Michael Grant
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates main contrib > non-free > deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates main > contrib non-free I think you are missing bullseye-security. I have this: deb http://mirrors.linode.com/debian-security/

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 12:06:18PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-15 at 12:00, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > > > Hi > > > > apt-get update > > Ign:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates InRelease > > Err:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 18:00:08 CEST schrieb Evelyn Pereira Souza: Hi Evelyn, the entry in sources.list has changed, it is now: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 12:06:18 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-15 at 12:00, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > > > Hi > > > > apt-get update > > Ign:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates InRelease > > Err:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates

Re: what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-15 at 12:00, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > Hi > > apt-get update > Ign:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates InRelease > Err:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates Release >404 Not Found [IP: 199.232.138.132 80] > deb

[SOLVED] Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Hi all, discovered something. It looks like the keys are still not synced to the mirrors. I changed from ftp.de.debian.org to deb.debian.org, and all is working like a charm. So, I suppose, this issue might be solved. But it would be nice to add a package with the actual keys into the

what's wrong with my "/etc/apt/sources.list"? Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default

2021-08-15 Thread Evelyn Pereira Souza
Hi apt-get update Ign:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates InRelease Err:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates Release 404 Not Found [IP: 199.232.138.132 80] Hit:3 http://mirror.init7.net/debian bullseye InRelease Hit:4

Re: Debian 10.6 boots to black screen; “no screens found(EE) in log”

2021-08-15 Thread Evelyn Pereira Souza
On 15.08.21 15:46, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: I would suggest installing Debian 11 - just released - for two reasons: Yes working with Bullseye. happy weekend Evelyn OpenPGP_0x61776FA8E38403FB.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bullseye installation failure because boot loader not installed

2021-08-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 10:48:58 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:19:35PM +0700, Ken Heard wrote: > > Having noted that the release of Bullseye is imminent I decided to > > use the RC2 iteration of Bullseye rather than Buster. > > I consequently downloaded file

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:00:26AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > You don't really get that far if your root FS is unmountable. > > Hmm... if it truly can't be mounted, then the system can't read > `/etc/passwd` and then whether there is a root account or not makes > no difference. That's

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Yes, but did not work. Strangely, the entry for bullseye-security seem to work (as there is an existing key). Best Hans > Have you tried adding *[trusted=yes]* inside the sources.list file that > contain reference to this repository. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Frank
Op 15-08-2021 om 16:51 schreef Hans: Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 16:36:05 CEST schrieb Brian: Yes, you are very right! There isn't any such thing as being "too critical" when it comes to technical matters :). A link to the page you were looking at might help. To everyone: I have still the

Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 00:41:30 (+0300), ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/15/21 12:31 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to attempt to reach a text console. If that's > > successful, then he can login there (as root) and attempt to install > > whatever's required to fix the problem > >  -

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:00:26AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Of course, the existence of a root password can occasionally be handy > for things like `rsync` (strictly speaking, you can probably arrange > for rsync to first log in as a normal user and then use `sudo`, but > it requires a fair

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-15 10:51 a.m., Hans wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 16:36:05 CEST schrieb Brian: > Yes, you are very right! >> >> There isn't any such thing as being "too critical" when it comes to >> technical matters :). >> >> A link to the page you were looking at might help. > > To

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 15:36:05 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 16:13:51 +0200, Hans wrote: > > > Yeah, not quite. I was already aware, that https won't improve security > > much. > > > > I just wondered, why the docu once is telling "use https" and once "http". > > If > > only

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 16:36:05 CEST schrieb Brian: Yes, you are very right! > > There isn't any such thing as being "too critical" when it comes to > technical matters :). > > A link to the page you were looking at might help. To everyone: I have still the problem, that the

Re: Bullseye installation failure because boot loader not installed

2021-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:19:35PM +0700, Ken Heard wrote: > Having noted that the release of Bullseye is imminent I decided to > use the RC2 iteration of Bullseye rather than Buster. > I consequently downloaded file 'Debian-bullseye-DI-rc2-amd4-netinst.iso' I don't know where you're getting your

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-15 Thread sp...@caiway.net
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:30:27 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:13:37PM +0200, sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > lou what about > > # apt install xorg fluxbox > > > > $ startx > > In theory that might work (you may also need firmware), but the amount > of bandwidth you'd burn

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-15 Thread songbird
The Wanderer wrote: ... > I had enough trouble with this at the last Debian release, and came > close enough to having trouble with it again this time, that I want to > make sure the solution is available and findable for anyone else who may > need it. ... considering i use only testing in my

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:49:49AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [trying to enter single user mode requires a root password] > > Of course, there are ways around that, but all of them involve having > access to another living instance of an operating system, Not all. You can supply kernel

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 16:13:51 +0200, Hans wrote: > Yeah, not quite. I was already aware, that https won't improve security much. > > I just wondered, why the docu once is telling "use https" and once "http". If > only using https or either http, this would not create confuseness. > > Looks

Re: Upgrade from buster........

2021-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 02:34:59PM +1000, Charlie wrote: > But didn't upgrade because of failure running > /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt I'm wondering if the failures of apt-listbugs are related to the failure of the bugs.debian.org web site. It's gotta be related, right? In your particular case,

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:13:37PM +0200, sp...@caiway.net wrote: > lou what about > # apt install xorg fluxbox > > $ startx In theory that might work (you may also need firmware), but the amount of bandwidth you'd burn through downloading *all* those packages each and every time you boot the

Ya es versión estable Debian 11 Bullseye?

2021-08-15 Thread Abogado
Hola Unas preguntas: 1º  ¿ya es versión estable Debian 11 (bullseye)? si es sí, debemos cambiar el repositorio de seguridad por este: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free Gracias de antemano. -- Un saludo, José Manuel Gran Canaria/España Si

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-15 Thread sp...@caiway.net
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 11:30:07 +0800 Jeremy Ardley wrote: then these X apps are to be run remotely > On 15/8/21 11:22 am, lou wrote: > > > > and what is password for root? > > > You should be able to do > > sudo passwd root > > and set your own password > > Thanks for the tips lou & Jeremy

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Yeah, not quite. I was already aware, that https won't improve security much. I just wondered, why the docu once is telling "use https" and once "http". If only using https or either http, this would not create confuseness. Looks like I am too critical. am I not? :) Best regards Hans >

Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:22:12PM -0400, lou wrote: > > On 8/14/21 11:08 PM, Weaver wrote: > > > > At the prompt, type `startx'. > > Depending on permissions, you may need to become root. > > Cheers! > > > > Harry. > > > > startx don't seem to be included in ISO image > > and what is

Re: Bullseye installation failure because boot loader not installed

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 20:19:35 +0700, Ken Heard wrote: [Extensive information snipped] >From Knoppix live check that the Debian installation is on /dev/sda. Then 'grub-install /dev/sda' and boot. -- Brian.

Re: Debian 10.6 boots to black screen; “no screens found(EE) in log”

2021-08-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 01:21:24PM +0200, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > On 15.08.21 10:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > You also have a "2019 5k iMac"? Because that is very important in this > > context. > > Here more details about my HW: > > # inxi -Fxz > System:Host: norp Kernel:

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:40:31PM +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > >  - bewildered , am getting stuff like this : > > >    GPG error: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo bullseye InRelease: The following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY F942E0D4E1C726CD >

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-15 Thread ellanios82
 - bewildered , am getting stuff like this :    GPG error: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo bullseye InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F942E0D4E1C726CD .  what to try please ?? thanks .

Bullseye installation failure because boot loader not installed

2021-08-15 Thread Ken Heard
I recently upgraded a desktop computer by replacing major parts in it including the mainboard and CPU. I now want to install in it a more up to date operating system than Wheezy which was the one used before the upgrade. Having noted that the release of Bullseye is imminent I decided to use the

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 11:36:54 +0200, Hans wrote: [...] > Another thing besides this: I am wondering, why the debian documentation > differs > between http and https at the entries for the security and the normal > packages. I would have been expected, that all entries are using https, and >

Re: Forbidden,,You are not allowed to access this!

2021-08-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 14:13:06 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > > > My guess is because I use a VPN. > > Why Debian blocks VPNs? > > Because of repeated vandalism to the Wiki. At one point a decision had > to be made to either restrict the access to certain IP ranges

Re: Forbidden,,You are not allowed to access this!

2021-08-15 Thread Sven Hartge
Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > My guess is because I use a VPN. > Why Debian blocks VPNs? Because of repeated vandalism to the Wiki. At one point a decision had to be made to either restrict the access to certain IP ranges or make the whole Wiki read-only for everyone. Grüße, Sven (not a DD,

Forbidden,,You are not allowed to access this!

2021-08-15 Thread Evelyn Pereira Souza
Hi Lots of sites from Debian project I get a 403. example: curl -I https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/iMac/10-1 HTTP/2 403 date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 11:54:52 GMT server: Apache x-content-type-options: nosniff x-frame-options: sameorigin referrer-policy: no-referrer

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 12:15:07PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:49:49AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Up to now, there is exactly one case I am aware of when you'd wish > > you had a root password: at boot, the root file system is deemed > > too

Re: Debian 10.6 boots to black screen; “no screens found(EE) in log”

2021-08-15 Thread Evelyn Pereira Souza
On 15.08.21 10:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: You also have a "2019 5k iMac"? Because that is very important in this context. Here more details about my HW: # inxi -Fxz System:Host: norp Kernel: 4.19.0-17-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Console: tty 0 Distro: Debian

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Hi Eike, it is not that easy and sadly this does not work. I copied the Release.gpg to /etc/apt/ trusted.gpg.d/ and renamed it to "debian-archive-bullseye-stable.gpg". I also get lots of errors, since bullseye chaged something. Please see: snip

Re: PSA: 'apt-get update' new-Debian-release error fix

2021-08-15 Thread ellanios82
On 8/15/21 4:08 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: Why not simply "apt update"?   : i have myself muddled : am getting "NO_PUBKEY"  - what to try, please ?   thank you  regards .

Re: security.debian.org bullseye/updates Release does not have a Release file

2021-08-15 Thread John Covici
Thanks, thatdidit. On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 04:46:16 -0400, Frank wrote: > > Op 15-08-2021 om 08:23 schreef John Covici: > > Hi. I did a apt-get update changing from buster to bullseye and got > > the above message -- should I just wait a few days and try again or > > something else? > > > >

Re: Debian 10.6 boots to black screen; “no screens found(EE) in log”

2021-08-15 Thread Evelyn Pereira Souza
On 15.08.21 10:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:34:05AM +0200, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: Hi https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/616926/debian-10-6-boots-to-black-screen-no-screens-foundee-in-log same problem like this guy, but sadly no anser. You also have a

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2021-08-15 11:36:54+0200, Hans wrote: > 2. deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free > is not reachable. When upgrading a Debian system you should always read the release notes. https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ Section 4.2.7 says:

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
On Sonntag, 15. August 2021 05:36:54 -04 Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > since the release of bullseye I got into two issues. > > 1. the pgp-key of the repo are no more valid. > > Is there a new one? How to get? > > 2. deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib > non-free is not

Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-15 Thread Hans
Dear list, since the release of bullseye I got into two issues. 1. the pgp-key of the repo are no more valid. Is there a new one? How to get? 2. deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free is not reachable. Is it down? How can it be fixed? Another thing besides

Re: password set at installation of debian-10.10.0-amd64 not recognized

2021-08-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:49:49AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 06:06:50PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Nevertheless there are rare cases only root can make changes. > > > > You mean cases where `sudo zsh -l` is not an option? > > Up to now, there

Re: security.debian.org bullseye/updates Release does not have a Release file

2021-08-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2021-08-15 10:46:16 +0200, Frank wrote: > Op 15-08-2021 om 08:23 schreef John Covici: > > Hi. I did a apt-get update changing from buster to bullseye and got > > the above message -- should I just wait a few days and try again or > > something else? > > > > Thanks. > > > bullseye/updates is

Re: Debian 10.6 boots to black screen; “no screens found(EE) in log”

2021-08-15 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:34:05AM +0200, Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote: > Hi > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/616926/debian-10-6-boots-to-black-screen-no-screens-foundee-in-log > > same problem like this guy, but sadly no anser. You also have a "2019 5k iMac"? Because that is very

Re: debian11 early - apt-get update - At least one invalid signature was encountered

2021-08-15 Thread raf
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 08:24:13AM +0200, john doe wrote: > The below assumes that 'sources.list' is set only for bullseye > > Some hints more than an answer: > - Try to remove the gpg keys in '/etc/apt' directory. > - Try to remove the Debian apt-keyring pkg ('$ apt-get --autoremove > purge

Re: security.debian.org bullseye/updates Release does not have a Release file

2021-08-15 Thread Frank
Op 15-08-2021 om 08:23 schreef John Covici: Hi. I did a apt-get update changing from buster to bullseye and got the above message -- should I just wait a few days and try again or something else? Thanks. bullseye/updates is not the location for bullseye's security repo. Change the relevant

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