Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread David Wright
On Thu 06 Jan 2022 at 07:24:47 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So in my Xfce applications menu I have a top-level entry "Ham radio", and > > there was exactly _one_ program to invoke under that, called "chirp". (I > > use this to program radios.) I don't run

Re: reduce size of debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso installation

2022-01-06 Thread David Christensen
On 1/6/22 6:41 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:37:53PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: debian-user I installed debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso and updated onto a amd64 computer for graphical desktop usage (e.g. "daily driver"): I noted that the install was

Re: XFCE: Alt+F4 est sans effet

2022-01-06 Thread Pierre ESTREM
Bonjour, Exact, mais il y a une circonstance où xfce4-session-logout déconnecte de suite sans afficher cette fenêtre de déconnexion car c'est ce que j'ai obtenu... J'ai refait toute l'installation dans les mêmes circonstances et cette fois xfce4-session-logout affiche bien cette fenêtre

Re: IWD+ifupdown instead of wpasupplicant and systemd-resolved?

2022-01-06 Thread Wim
Hi, On Sunday, 02 January at 17:40, riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, I have an old desktop machine with Debian 11, running fine, as usual. > Recently I bought a USB/Wi-Fi dongle/adapter to connect it to my home WLAN. > The chipset and correspondent firmware blob seem to be the 'MediaTek > MT7601U

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread paulf
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:26:23 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 15:19:27 + > "Jeremy Nicoll" wrote: > > Hello Jeremy, > > >but other servers that use OAuth2 - notably Microsoft ones - > >regularly revoke users' access tokens and the users currently have > >to set those > > Not

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2022-01-06 10:41 a.m., Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:20:43 am Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 01:01:07AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: >>> So I downloaded the current version of the program. This gets incremental >>> upgrades all the time,

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread David
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 02:39, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: Hi Roy, You sound unhappy to me. Unhappiness can often be caused by a mismatch between expectations and reality. I try to offer you some advice based on years of reading this list ... > > Going by the version number, that looks like it's

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:24:47 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > ps -auwx|grep -e screen -e lock > > That gets me this: > > Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html > root 110 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?S<2021

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:24:47 am Dan Ritter wrote: > ps -auwx|grep -e screen -e lock That gets me this: Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html root 110 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?S<2021 0:15 [kblockd/0] root 295 0.0 0.0

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:20:43 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 01:01:07AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So I downloaded the current version of the program. This gets incremental > > upgrades all the time, and the latest one is chirp20220103, which I > >

Re: XFCE: Alt+F4 est sans effet

2022-01-06 Thread didier gaumet
Le mardi 04 janvier 2022 à 22:11 +0100, Pierre ESTREM a écrit : > Bonjour, > > J'ai installé Debian 11.2 mais cette fois-ci c'est le raccourci > Alt+F4 > qui depuis un bureau XFCE vide n'ouvre pas la fenêtre de déconnexion > (éteindre, changement d'utilisateur, etc), mais il provoque la >

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 15:19:27 + "Jeremy Nicoll" wrote: Hello Jeremy, >but other servers that use OAuth2 - notably Microsoft ones - regularly >revoke users' access tokens and the users currently have to set those Not using oauth myself, I'd failed to do more than simply glance at some of

Re: XFCE: Alt+F4 est sans effet

2022-01-06 Thread didier gaumet
Bonjour, je viens de tester dans une machine virtuelle Debian 11 Bullseye avec Xfce4 (avec le paramétrage par défaut): en allant dans les menus paramètres de Xfce, section claviers puis raccourcis claviers, la combinaison de touches ALT+F4 n'est pas paramétrée, par contre la séquence

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, at 05:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > Many CM users are successfully collecting mail from google using > oauth2. In the last couple of days there's been a flurry of discussion on the CM Developers' mail list about some problems with OAuth2 though. My impression, not knowing the

Re: reduce size of debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso installation

2022-01-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:37:53PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > debian-user > > I installed debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso and updated onto a > amd64 computer for graphical desktop usage (e.g. "daily driver"): > > 2022-01-04 17:57:07 root@laalaa ~ > # cat /etc/debian_version ;

Re: XFCE: Alt+F4 est sans effet

2022-01-06 Thread Pierre ESTREM
Bonjour, Je ne suis pas dans le cas 1. Je vais installer vctrl qui va m'apprendre bien des choses. Je n'ai pas de touche "FN" (il s'agit d'un PC fixe et non d'un portable. Mais le BIOS est toujours pour moi un souci rédhibitoire car je suis amblyope (à canne blanche). Mais c'est bon de

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:40:10 + Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 Jan 2022 at 11:26, Charles Curley wrote: > > Or, if you want to stick with your investment in Thunderbird, use > > dovecot to set up a local imap server. > > dovecot is also quite useful for letting those MUAs that do not

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 09:26:16 +0100 didier gaumet wrote: > > > Le mercredi 05 janvier 2022 à 11:58 -0500, Celejar a écrit : > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 09:44:24 -0500 > > "Paul M. Foster" wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > Thanks for the info. Mozilla Foundation is seriously annoying me > > > lately. >

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 12:55:51PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-01-06, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > The change there is that python2 and python3 are ridiculously > > incompatible with each other, so programs written in each need > > to call the appropriate interpreter. However, most python > >

Re: XFCE: Alt+F4 est sans effet

2022-01-06 Thread David Martin
Salut, Tu veux changer de bureau ? de console TTY ? premier cas, install vmctrl et configure tes raccourcis clavier deuxième cas, tu dois avoir une option dans le bios pour ta touche FN qui fou la grouille ou bien appui sur la touche FN + ALT + F4 A plus Le mar. 4 janv. 2022 à 22:11, Pierre

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-06, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The change there is that python2 and python3 are ridiculously > incompatible with each other, so programs written in each need > to call the appropriate interpreter. However, most python > programs just assume that "/usr/bin/python" or `env python` will >

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So in my Xfce applications menu I have a top-level entry "Ham radio", and > there was exactly _one_ program to invoke under that, called "chirp". (I > use this to program radios.) I don't run this too often, but having > recently acquired a new radio I went

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 01:01:07AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I downloaded the current version of the program. This gets incremental > upgrades all the time, and the latest one is chirp20220103, which I > downloaded. When I went to invoke it directly, there was an error about >

Re: Problems with videos playback for my user

2022-01-06 Thread Lucio Crusca
On 06/01/22 00:34, Lucio Crusca wrote: Thanks, nice try, but, besides I've cleared all three steps just in case (CPU always below 5% while playing videos), none of those can explain why video playback still works correctly for all the users except mine. Since I needed videos to play, I had

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 5 Jan 2022 at 11:26, Charles Curley wrote: > Or, if you want to stick with your investment in Thunderbird, use > dovecot to set up a local imap server. dovecot is also quite useful for letting those MUAs that do not support oauth2 access services which require it. -- Eric S Fraga

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread didier . gaumet
Le jeudi 06 janvier 2022 à 09:40 +0100, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] > For CLI/TUI MUAs, > I think they are all genuine MUAs, designed to cope with /var/mail > Mbox > mailboxes Correction, they are almost all designed to cope with Mbox, but for example mh/nmh/mmh are not (MH mailboxes)

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 05 janvier 2022 à 09:44 -0500, Paul M. Foster a écrit : > > Can anyone recommend another MUA which uses mbox format and is > relatively easy to configure? > > Paul Hello Paul, For GUI MUAs, others have suggested Claws-mail (with the mbox plgin, by default Claws only manages MH

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 05 janvier 2022 à 11:58 -0500, Celejar a écrit : > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 09:44:24 -0500 > "Paul M. Foster" wrote: > > ... > > > Thanks for the info. Mozilla Foundation is seriously annoying me > > lately. > > > > Can anyone recommend another MUA which uses mbox format and is > >