Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-10 08:35 UTC+0100, Christian Britz wrote: > ...and this is not the latest kernel available in pure Debian. It is This is what I got directly from Debian: Linux raspberrypi 5.10.0-12-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.103-1 (2022-03-07) aarch64 GNU/Linux -- http://www.cb-fraggle.de

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
Hi Keith, On 2022-03-10 08:12 UTC+0100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > uname : > Linux rasp14 5.10.92-v8+ #1514 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 17 17:39:38 GMT 2022 > aarch64 GNU/Linux ...and this is not the latest kernel available in pure Debian. It is missing important security fixes. Since last night an

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 10/3/22 01:57, Christian Britz wrote: Hello, after learning that the Debian-based RaspberryPi OS does not get security fixes always in time (see dirty-pipe), I am considering installing pure Debian on my system. It seems not all proprietary components are supported, but I don't need video

Re: wifi-usb Nisuta/Realtec en Debian [RESUELTO] y una duda...

2022-03-09 Thread Camaleón
El 2022-03-09 a las 19:40 -0300, Daniel escribió: (...) > Aquí la duda, de desconfiado solamente: menos de un minuto después de > reiniciar y conectar aparece el aviso de actualizaciones de seguridad > disponibles y (la duda es si puede ser simple casualidad o qué, por las > dudas las dejé

Re: Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread David Wright
On Wed 09 Mar 2022 at 21:46:45 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 08:28:39PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Dimitrios Papanikolaou wrote: > > > > > > I have Debian 10 (buster) installed in my Nodes. > > > I use the sec repo: > > > > > > deb

Re: Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 08:28:39PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Dimitrios Papanikolaou wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have Debian 10 (buster) installed in my Nodes. > > I use the sec repo: > > > > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-securitybuster/updates main contrib > > non-free > > I hope there

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 9 Mar 2022, Christian Britz wrote: Hello, after learning that the Debian-based RaspberryPi OS does not get security fixes always in time (see dirty-pipe), I am considering installing pure Debian on my system. It seems not all proprietary components are supported, but I don't need video

Re: Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread Dan Ritter
Dimitrios Papanikolaou wrote: > Hi, > > I have Debian 10 (buster) installed in my Nodes. > I use the sec repo: > > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-securitybuster/updates main contrib > non-free I hope there is another / between security and buster. > This is what I have. But can you

Re: Gnome/VirtualBox/Windows copy-paste CR issue.

2022-03-09 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Good afternoon Kaz I suggest you install mate-terminal and try from that. If that works, compare the preferences and check out a few options that I've not found in gnome-terminal, like auto copy highlighted text to clipboard. I don't recall trying to copy into win10, so I can't answer that

Security Updates

2022-03-09 Thread Dimitrios Papanikolaou
Hi, I have Debian 10 (buster) installed in my Nodes. I use the sec repo: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-securitybuster/updates main contrib non-free This is what I have. But can you explain me. Why I am not getting the latest security updates? Today I updated the Debian Nodes. But

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
I just modified an image from raspi.debian.net and was able to login via ssh. Thank you all for the input. :-) On 2022-03-09 15:57 UTC+0100, Christian Britz wrote: > Hello, > > after learning that the Debian-based RaspberryPi OS does not get > security fixes always in time (see dirty-pipe), I am

Gnome/VirtualBox/Windows copy-paste CR issue.

2022-03-09 Thread Kaz Kylheku
Hi All, I have Debian 11 in a VirtualBox, guest to a Windows host. The guest additions is installed, with bidirectional clipboard enabled. When I select text in a Gnome application like Gnome Terminal or Gedit, and then paste it into some guest application, there are extra blank lines. If I

wifi-usb Nisuta/Realtec en Debian [RESUELTO] y una duda...

2022-03-09 Thread Daniel
Holas. Un logro, por fin de conectividad, que de hecho estoy usando, y al final una duda simple. Recuerdo y sintetizo el caso del hilo "actualizar kernel para problema con wifi": Notebook Lenovo "ThinkPad L15 Gen 2" con i5-1135G7. Instalado Debian 11, kernel 5.10.0.11-amd64, KDE Plasma

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 03:37:17PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > > Don't worry. Life is like that :) > > > Or Tomas, you could be like me. He's had several good chances to put a > ~30~ on my story, but he knows he'd have to send me down, I'd fix the > stoker, rewind the generator to

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, 9 March 2022 15:21:10 EST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 08:42:31PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > tomas wrote: > > > I hope X isn't going anywhere the next 10..15 years. > > > After that, I'll be gone myself, so... ;-) > > : > > :( *sob* > > Don't worry. Life is

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 09 mars 2022 à 16:29 +0100, Emanuel Berg a écrit : > didier gaumet wrote: > > > But am I wrong? I was thinking that one could start > > a Wayland compositor from a TTY (so, also from a script), > > with a particular configuration if she/he wishes, and launch > > GUI programs in this

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-09 18:57 UTC+0100, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Which Raspberry Pi model - Pete Batard has a version of UEFI that works on > a Pi 4 and can boot enough to then use the Debian installer. Essentially, > you put UEFI and the raspberry pi firmware package in the ESP on a USB stick > or

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 08:42:31PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > > > I hope X isn't going anywhere the next 10..15 years. > > After that, I'll be gone myself, so... ;-) > > :( *sob* Don't worry. Life is like that :) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-09 18:15 UTC+0100, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Here's something about the X ecosystem that I don't understand anymore. > I've read the statement > that "X isn't developed anymore, only XFree86". In other words, X source > was re-based to Xfree86 > a long time ago. So it must be that

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 12:51:24PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: [...] > See I can't tell if that supports my claim or yours :-) When in doubt, it supports your claim. I'm not aware of having made a significant one ;-) > Here's why: I went to that site and among others, looked at the page

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, 11:49 AM wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 11:15:54AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > [...] > > > Here's something about the X ecosystem that I don't understand anymore. > > I've read the statement > > that "X isn't developed anymore, only XFree86". In other words, X

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 05:08:21PM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-03-09 16:53 UTC+0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-03-09 16:50 UTC+0100, Brian wrote: > >> The short answer is that you use the network-console udeb. To do that, > >> I preseed wirh > >> > >> d-i

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 11:15:54AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: [...] > Here's something about the X ecosystem that I don't understand anymore. > I've read the statement > that "X isn't developed anymore, only XFree86". In other words, X source > was re-based to Xfree86 > a long time ago. So

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:40 AM Christian Britz wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > On 2022-03-08 23:01 UTC+0100, Kevin Exton wrote: > > I tried Wayland some years ago now (might have been when they first > > trialled it in Ubuntu) but decided not to stick with it. > > > > Since more desktop environments are

Re: actualizar kernel para problema con wifi

2022-03-09 Thread Daniel
Respondo aquí para abreviar a los lectores: gracias Jhosue. Valiosa información por lo que intuyo. En cuanto termine del trabajo investigaré esos links y veré si intento lo del kernel (atinado vuestro consejo que apunte a la placa y no al pen, creo) . Gracias otra vez. Daniel El 9/3/22 a las

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Mar 2022 at 17:08:21 +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-03-09 16:53 UTC+0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-03-09 16:50 UTC+0100, Brian wrote: > >> The short answer is that you use the network-console udeb. To do that, > >> I preseed wirh > >> > >> d-i

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-09 16:53 UTC+0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-03-09 16:50 UTC+0100, Brian wrote: >> The short answer is that you use the network-console udeb. To do that, >> I preseed wirh >> >> d-i anna/choose_modules string network-console >> >> I boot with a netinst using hd-media

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-09 16:50 UTC+0100, Brian wrote: > The short answer is that you use the network-console udeb. To do that, > I preseed wirh > > d-i anna/choose_modules string network-console > > I boot with a netinst using hd-media and pressed from a file. That sounds very interesting, can you

Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Mar 2022 at 15:57:04 +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > Hello, > > after learning that the Debian-based RaspberryPi OS does not get > security fixes always in time (see dirty-pipe), I am considering > installing pure Debian on my system. It seems not all proprietary > components are

Re: actualizar kernel para problema con wifi

2022-03-09 Thread Jhosue rui
El mié, 9 mar 2022 a las 11:23, Daniel () escribió: > > > El 9/3/22 a las 10:56, Jhosue rui escribió: > > El mar, 8 mar 2022 a las 17:04, Daniel () > > escribió: > >> > >> El 8/3/22 a las 15:12, Jhosue rui escribió: > >>> El jue, 24 feb 2022 a las 23:04, Daniel > >>> () escribió: > Hola.

Re: actualizar kernel para problema con wifi

2022-03-09 Thread Daniel
El 9/3/22 a las 10:56, Jhosue rui escribió: El mar, 8 mar 2022 a las 17:04, Daniel () escribió: El 8/3/22 a las 15:12, Jhosue rui escribió: El jue, 24 feb 2022 a las 23:04, Daniel () escribió: Hola. Consulta bastante de novato, disculpas por eso (uso consola pero me suelo manejar mas en

Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
Hello, after learning that the Debian-based RaspberryPi OS does not get security fixes always in time (see dirty-pipe), I am considering installing pure Debian on my system. It seems not all proprietary components are supported, but I don't need video acceleration anyway, for example. My Pi acts

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

2022-03-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
rowl...@cloud85.net >Let's press reset a little. >For reasons not directly tied to Debian, I'm no longer purchasing DVD >sets on any media. >I am still constrained by a low data cap. >My system installs *will* continue to use "--no-install-recommends": > 1. It conserves limited resource [i.e.

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 09 mars 2022 à 11:14 +0100, Emanuel Berg a écrit : > > When I tried it the last time I looked for a xinit or startx > which are the ways I start X (from scripts, e.g. > https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zprofile ) > > I then run a bunch of programs in ~/.xinitrc > > I asked what

Re: actualizar kernel para problema con wifi

2022-03-09 Thread Jhosue rui
El mar, 8 mar 2022 a las 17:04, Daniel () escribió: > > > El 8/3/22 a las 15:12, Jhosue rui escribió: > > El jue, 24 feb 2022 a las 23:04, Daniel > > () escribió: > >> Hola. Consulta bastante de novato, disculpas por eso (uso consola pero > >> me suelo manejar mas en GUI). > >> > >> Tengo una

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-09 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 06:48:07PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: [...] > > Can anyone suggest a good way to get my Linux (or Windows) pictures onto > some site that Apple devices can use? > I would suggest something like nextcloud. https://nextcloud.com/ It's like running your own icloud. It is OS

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-09 Thread songbird
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-03-07 20:55:52 -0500, songbird wrote: >> right now it locks solid and i can't get a core file at all. >> all my log files are not giving me any clues either the Xorg >> one is the only one that's telling me anything relating to >> what is happening (some kind of

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

2022-03-09 Thread Richard Owlett
Let's press reset a little. For reasons not directly tied to Debian, I'm no longer purchasing DVD sets on any media. I am still constrained by a low data cap. My system installs *will* continue to use "--no-install-recommends": 1. It conserves limited resource [i.e. data cap] 2. It reduces

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

2022-03-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-03-07 18:25:54 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Obviously it depends who you ask. The kernel side doesn't consider > itself to blame because they do expose a "stable" API which Nvidia > could use. But note that the Xorg API is not stable. The 340 branch can no longer be used at least

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread Christian Britz
Hi Kevin, On 2022-03-08 23:01 UTC+0100, Kevin Exton wrote: > I tried Wayland some years ago now (might have been when they first > trialled it in Ubuntu) but decided not to stick with it. > > Since more desktop environments are beginning to choose Wayland as the > default display protocol, I was

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread Pascal Obry
Hello, One drawback at the moment is the color management of Wayland when using the NVidia proprietary driver (not sure about Wayland on nouveau). This is just not supported and if you need proper color management like me using for example darktable then Wayland is not an option yet. If I

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

2022-03-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-03-07 20:55:52 -0500, songbird wrote: > right now it locks solid and i can't get a core file at all. > all my log files are not giving me any clues either the Xorg > one is the only one that's telling me anything relating to > what is happening (some kind of IO issue). > > it happens

Re: Wayland vs X

2022-03-09 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 3/9/22 00:01, Kevin Exton wrote: > I tried Wayland some years ago now (might have been when they first > trialled it in Ubuntu) but decided not to stick with it. > > Since more desktop environments are beginning to choose Wayland as the > default display protocol, I was wondering if others

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

2022-03-09 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 8 Mar 2022 at 22:47, Richmond wrote: > Now that I have it working I fear to change it. And this is exactly my modus operandum. Once I get a system to a stable productive working state, I leave it alone (except for security issues). -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50

Re: Changing hardware

2022-03-09 Thread Anssi Saari
piorunz writes: > Free drivers are terrible to use if user wants hardware acceleration. > Clocks are not ramped up, because nouveau does not support re-clocking. > That means horrible performance, or crashes. I don't ever recommend, or > sometimes even mention, nouveau. Hear, hear. I was

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-09 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 9 mars 2022 à 03:20:06 UTC+1, Tom Browder a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 18:58 Jeremy Ardley wrote: > ... > Put the photos into several large zip files (simply to minimise the > number of downloads). Then upload to google drive in some directory and > use the share option on the