Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread eben
On 6/19/24 11:04, Heriberto Avelino wrote: Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Is your computer's hard drive is already mounted? Are you comfortable in a shell? -- For is it not written,

mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread Heriberto Avelino
Dear all: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Many thanks!! Heriberto

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

2024-06-19 Thread Richard
For this, probably the easiest is to set up a common directory/a few common directories, set up proper permissions through use of groups and worst case create some symlinks from the user's home directories, if these directories really need to be accessible from within their home directories.

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-19 Thread Haricophile
Le Tue, 18 Jun 2024 12:56:24 +0200, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > Un téra-octet de données personnelles, c'est énorme. Il me semble que > la seule activité numérique qui en consomme autant c'est la vidéo. En fait non, ça dépend précisément ce que tu sauvegarde, et il ne faut pas penser que

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

2024-06-19 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 19/06/2024 05:46, Julien Petit wrote: Rights are not the challenge here. It's to be able to share a directory across multiple users. For instance you would have : /users/bob/accounting shared with Alice and accessible in her home directory /users/alice/accounting Does it really have to be

Re: dictd?

2024-06-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 07:51:34 -, David Chmelik wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:29:58 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 06:53, David Chmelik : > >> How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & > >> dictionary.index) > >> to dictd? Apparently doesn't work

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 23:09:04 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 07:07:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > What should I call the timezone of my computer when it's booted up and > > > no users are logged in? > >

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread Dan Ritter
David Chmelik wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:47:58 +0200, tomas wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:39:50AM -, David Chmelik wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > >> > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > >> > > >> >> How can I disable GUI/X

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread Felix Miata
David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 08:40 (UTC): > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:06:04 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Slackware uses 4 instead of 5 but otherwise is the same, and still >> focused on SysV. > That's what I wish I could've set in Debian. Ask in a Devuan forum. By now I would suppose they

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread Toni Mas Soler
El Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:47:58 +0200 va escriure el següent: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:39:50AM -, David Chmelik wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > > > > > >> How can I disable GUI/X for next

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

2024-06-19 Thread Julien Petit
> Does it have some logic to avoid descending into bind mounts? Maybe I am > wrong with my expectation that it does not use anything besides st_dev from > stat result. It may be promising case to demonstrate the issue in a way > independent of systemd and sandboxing. You can obtain command line

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

2024-06-19 Thread Julien Petit
> Just to learn about it. > What about using acl rather than bind mounts? What should be the > problem in this solution? As i said to Richard, rights are not the challenge here. It's to be able to share a directory across multiple users. For instance you would have : /users/bob/accounting shared

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

2024-06-19 Thread Julien Petit
> If there's a better way should be judged on what exactly that app expects. > For the web interface, maybe the http server - or whatever makes the web > interface accessible to the users - can limit permissions. For the rest of > the use cases it would be interesting which circumstances would

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread Hans
Just remove any login-manager like gdm, kdm, sddm and lightdm. For testing purposes, you can eaily remove the binaries below /usr/bin/ to somewhere, for example to /root/. Then reboot and it will not boot into X. Startx will work. And if this is not what you want, just move the binaries back

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread David Chmelik
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:47:58 +0200, tomas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:39:50AM -, David Chmelik wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): >> > >> >> How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread David Chmelik
On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:54:00 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): >> > How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I >> > decide as startx/startxfce/etc. >> >> #

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread David Chmelik
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:06:04 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 04:39 (UTC): >> On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>> David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I

Re: dictd?

2024-06-19 Thread David Chmelik
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:29:58 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 06:53, David Chmelik : >> How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & >> dictionary.index) >> to dictd? Apparently doesn't work same as on *BSD UNIX & Slackware >> GNU/ Linux... > > man dictd: >

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:39:50AM -, David Chmelik wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > > > >> How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I > >> decide as startx/startxfce/etc. > >

Re: dictd?

2024-06-18 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 06:53, David Chmelik : > How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & dictionary.index) > to dictd? Apparently doesn't work same as on *BSD UNIX & Slackware GNU/ > Linux... man dictd: /usr/share/dictd The default directory for dictd

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Pierre Malard
SSD : Avantages : rapidité IO, consommation électrique, pas de pièces en mouvement Inconvénients : nombre de IO limitée (entre 100.000 et 300.000 stricte), coût HDD : Avantages : coût, enregistrement magnétique permanent, durée de vie aléatoire Inconvénients : consommation électrique, chaleur,

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-18 Thread Felix Miata
David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 04:39 (UTC): > On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): >>> How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I >>> decide as startx/startxfce/etc. >> # systemctl

Re: network question

2024-06-18 Thread Marco Moock
Am Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:14:32 +0800 schrieb Jeff Peng : > when my server is a vps who has floating IP (that means, the server's > iP is an internal IP, the public ip is bond on provider's > router/firewall devices), then my ssh client connecting to the server > will never disconnect even if I

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-18 Thread David Chmelik
On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > >> How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I >> decide as startx/startxfce/etc. > > # systemctl get-default # reports bootup state # systemctl set-default >

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 11:02:58PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > > >set-timezone [TIMEZONE] > > >Set the system time zone [...] [...] > > I cringe a bit when I see that. > > See what, exactly? I can see three things, potentially. Especially that bit with the "system

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 07:07:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > What should I call the timezone of my computer when it's booted up and > > no users are logged in? > > Daemons will almost always use the system's default time zone (the

RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 04:12:07 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 4:05 AM wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:54:03PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > [...] > > > I notice that man timedatectl says: > > > > > >set-timezone [TIMEZONE] > > >Set the

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 10:04:45 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:54:03PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 19:40:30 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Time zones

Re: testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 19:29:31 (-0400), songbird wrote: > "df -x tmpfs" does the magic and gives me the better view that is > more useful. FWIW I define dfree as: df --output=source,ipcent,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target -B 100 -x tmpfs -x devtmpfs -x fuse.portal | sed -E 's/([^ ]

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > > > How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I > > decide as startx/startxfce/etc. > > # systemctl get-default # reports bootup state > # systemctl

Re: disable GUI/X?

2024-06-18 Thread Felix Miata
David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I > decide as startx/startxfce/etc. # systemctl get-default # reports bootup state # systemctl set-default graphical.target sets GUI as default state # systemctl set-default

disable GUI/X?

2024-06-18 Thread David Chmelik
How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I decide as startx/startxfce/etc.

dictd

2024-06-18 Thread David Chmelik
How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & dictionary.index) to dictd?

network question

2024-06-18 Thread Jeff Peng
may I ask a network question? when my server is a vps who has floating IP (that means, the server's iP is an internal IP, the public ip is bond on provider's router/firewall devices), then my ssh client connecting to the server will never disconnect even if I changed my local gateway (for

dictd?

2024-06-18 Thread David Chmelik
How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & dictionary.index) to dictd? Apparently doesn't work same as on *BSD UNIX & Slackware GNU/ Linux...

NVIDIA drivers issue: Bug that keeps presenting on kernel 6.1.0-21

2024-06-18 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
Hello team, by installing NVIDIA drivers as per the guideline of Debian on Debian 12, it shows an error as follows: Building initial module for 6.1.0-21-amd64 > readelf: Error: Not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start > readelf: Error: Not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic

testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

2024-06-18 Thread songbird
recent bloat of tmpfs /run/{blah} looks horrible whenever i check the status of my file systems. it would be much better if those all went under just one tmpfs. luckily there is an option for that so i'll alias df with that option included. :) = Filesystem Size Used Avail

Documentation improvement (optical and USB install media)

2024-06-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Nobody is advocating removing the optical disk media options. There are no plans to do so, that I am aware of. Planning to do so would not make sense, since the current build process happily produces images suitable for both optical disks and USB filesystem devices. All the discussion has

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Miquel Demur
https://www.lemagit.fr/conseil/Pourquoi-les-sauvegardes-sur-bandes-redeviennent-populaires

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Sébastien Dinot
MERLIN Philippe a écrit : > Mon besoin un disque d'un 1 To disque mécanique ou SSD ? Savoir s'il vaut mieux utiliser un disque mécanique ou un disque électronique (SSD / NVMe) est un troll interminable, qui fait passer les gens à côté du point essentiel : tout matériel est intrinsèquement

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 6/18/24 10:01 AM, John Hasler wrote: JHHL writes: Some of us still prefer physical media Do you mean read-only media? All media are physical. No, I mean physical media as opposed to downloads. Application software, I've resigned myself to downloads, although as I said, I am not happy

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Freely owning I have not followed this entire thread, I simply wish to add a couple of points. First, Linux is, or was represented to me, to reflect choices. Those included many paths to incorporating the system, allowing an individual to use the equipment they have right now to draw upon

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Dethegeek
Tu as toujours un risque. Ou alors tu passes sur bande. Ça c'est réputé assez increvable Le mar. 18 juin 2024 à 19:12, Miquel Demur a écrit : > Bonjour, > > J'avais lu que le disque SSD était plus fragile à la chaleur; mais le HDD > est d'une haute technologie fragile. > quelle est la part dans

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Miquel Demur
Bonjour, J'avais lu que le disque SSD était plus fragile à la chaleur; mais le HDD est d'une haute technologie fragile. quelle est la part dans le risque de perdre des données entre le HDD et le SSD ? Avec mes remerciements,

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread John Hasler
JHHL writes: > Some of us still prefer physical media Do you mean read-only media? All media are physical. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 6/17/24 7:44 PM, Thomas Dineen wrote: No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away What he said. Might I humbly suggest that this whole thread title is provocative, alarming, and maybe even a little inflamatory? Some of us still prefer physical media, whether in the form

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, George at Clug wrote: > I have never been able to use .jigdo or understand jigdo, sadly I do not > know how to use them. ISOs I understand. Go by "cd" into a directory where you have enough space to store the ISO and try this:

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread George at Clug
On Wednesday, 19-06-2024 at 00:08 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > George at Clug wrote: > > 1) I use DVD ISO images to create a bootable USB flash drive. Super easy to > > do. I do not know how to do this with BD images, so if you do, please let me > > know. > > # ls -hal /dev/sd* > > # cp

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Frederic Zulian
Bonjour, A chacun ses besoins et ses préférences. 2 exemples : - Pro, PC clients (SSD) ---> Serveur fichiers (Raid 5 DD mécaniques) > NAS (Raid 2 mécaniques) --> SSD, Sauvegarde incrémentale tous les mois (conservé dans un coffre, connecté uniquement pour le temps des sauvegardes). -

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, George at Clug wrote: > 1) I use DVD ISO images to create a bootable USB flash drive. Super easy to > do. I do not know how to do this with BD images, so if you do, please let me > know. > # ls -hal /dev/sd* > # cp CentOS-7-x86_64-Everything-2009.iso /dev/sdf As far as Debian amd64 ISOs are

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Dethegeek
Pour aller encore plus loin que ce se dit Pierre, si tu la criticité est telle que tu as besoin de RAID pour tes sauvegardes, tu dois aussi mettre en place un plan de simulation de restauration des sauvegardes. En effet c'est assez frustrant de de rendre compte que ta sauvegarde n'est pas valide

Re: Instant flush to file

2024-06-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Jun 2024 21:17 +0800, from j...@tls-mail.com (Jeff Peng): > I ask this b/c some commands following echo cannot run well. > > Such as, > > echo … >> dove.db > doveadm create mailbox from dove.db > > Sometimes it succeeds. Sometimes it fails. > > If I add a line like this: > > echo … >>

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Pierre Malard
Bonjour, Il y a 2 choses à regarder pour monter une solution de sauvegarde : La durabilité des disques La solidité de l’espace dédié Il est certain que tout ce qui est SSD est + rapide mais ils ont la mauvaise habitude d’avoir une durée de vie très limitée en terme I/O (100.000 il me semble).

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread George at Clug
On Tuesday, 18-06-2024 at 09:44 Vitold S wrote: > Good news everyone, > > Sorry that the question may have already been clarified earlier, but I am > not a regular member of the user mailing list, so I ask it again. > > Every time I download the Debian image, I am faced with a moral disorder >

Re: Instant flush to file

2024-06-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 21:17:07 +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > After write to file with bash shell like: > > echo … > file > echo … >> file > > Is it possible the file get no update instantly? No. Each of those commands opens the file (the first one opens it for write, the second opens it for

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> And some of the BIOSes of old PCs are not able to boot from USB... Indeed, tho I suspect those machines are 20 years old or more (at least, all my machines that are <20 years old support booting from a USB key drive, while of the two older machines I have (both 21 years old), one of them

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other >>> versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary >>> download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment >>> will happen? >> AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine

Instant flush to file

2024-06-18 Thread Jeff Peng
Hi After write to file with bash shell like: echo … > file echo … >> file Is it possible the file get no update instantly? I ask this b/c some commands following echo cannot run well. Such as, echo … >> dove.db doveadm create mailbox from dove.db Sometimes it succeeds. Sometimes it fails.

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Detlef Vollmann
On 6/18/24 04:10, jeremy ardley wrote: On 18/6/24 09:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download?  Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment will

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > What should I call the timezone of my computer when it's booted up and > no users are logged in? Daemons will almost always use the system's default time zone (the one specified by /etc/localtime or /etc/timezone). It's

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 18:26:39 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > I'm back. The kitchen clock says 18:05. the sun has set. I have no reason to > doubt the clock. So I'll answer Greg's questions > > > What does "date" say? Paste the entire output. > $>   date > Tue 18 Jun 2024 18:06:31 AEST > >

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 6/18/24 12:33, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, J'aimerai avoir l'avis de la liste sur le choix du support de sauvegarde pour un petit ordinateur personnel. Mon besoin un disque d'un 1 To disque mécanique ou SSD ? Si l'ordinateur est utilisé professionnellement, alors l'employeur ou le

Re: overthewire.org: safe to use?

2024-06-18 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 20:08 john doe wrote: > On 6/16/24 19:27, Tom Browder wrote: > > Anyone here have any cautionary advice about using the ssh to war games > on > > their site? > … According to [2], nothing needs to be installed. > Ah, I just noticed the port was specified. Thanks, John

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread Dethegeek
Bonjour, pour un besoin de sauvegarde un support lent est tout à fait acceptable. Je partirais sur du HDD pour des raisons de coût. Je compare entre produits neufs. Pas de 2nde main. Aujourd'hui j'éviterais western digital au profit de Hitachi ou sansumg. J'ai un HDD 2.5p de 1 to Samsung qui

[HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

2024-06-18 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Bonjour, J'aimerai avoir l'avis de la liste sur le choix du support de sauvegarde pour un petit ordinateur personnel. Mon besoin un disque d'un 1 To disque mécanique ou SSD ? Avantage Disque Mécanique Prix moins cher quoi que les prix des SSD ont baissé et se rapproche des disques Mécaniques.

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Marco Moock
Am 18.06.2024 um 10:51:38 Uhr schrieb Joe: > No, no problems booting UEFI from USB stick. I need to do that to get > back to grub every time I boot Windows on my netbook, which isn't very > often. You should be able to change the boot order in the UEFI setup or inside of Windows. -- Gruß Marco

Re: Ter info: FileZilla

2024-06-18 Thread Sjoerd
Op 11 mei schreef Richard Lucassen: > Op 11 mei schreef Sjoerd: > > > Wat je nu ziet gebeuren, is dat FileZilla eerst contact probeert te > > maken via het IPv6-adres. Na ruim 2 minuten geeft-ie het op, en dan > > wordt overgegaan naar het IPv4-adres, waarna de verbinding vlot tot > > stand komt.

[SUCESS with caution] Re: Corrupt MATE configuration due to OPERATOR ERROR

2024-06-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/17/2024 09:33 AM, Mike Kupfer wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I created a new, _apparently_ identical, panel. *HOWEVER* it displays something for each item open/active in *ANY* workspace. How do I get back to displaying something for each item open/active in the *CURRENT* workspace?

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello ^^) Le 18/06/2024 à 03:00, Stefan Monnier a écrit : Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment will happen? AFAIK, all

Fwd: test sent date details

2024-06-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 Forwarded Message Subject: test sent date details Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:56:41 +1000 From: Keith Bainbridge To: keithr...@gmail.com All the best Keith

Re: test sent date details

2024-06-18 Thread keithrbau
It has worked All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 On 18/6/24 17:56, Keith Bainbridge wrote: All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 17/6/24 21:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:26:19PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when I

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 4:05 AM wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:54:03PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > $ date; timedatectl status > > Mon Jun 17 23:51:43 CDT 2024 > > Local time: Tue 2024-06-18 04:51:43 UTC > > Universal time: Tue 2024-06-18

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:54:03PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 19:40:30 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > > Time zones are not in effect for users, either; they're in effect for > > > processes

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Marco Moock wrote: > Most new computers don't have an optical disc drive, customers don't > request it and if they want one, they can buy one and add it. I've an optical disc drive with USB connection. I can easily move it to my new / next computer, when I upgrade, and don't need a place in the

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Marco Moock
Am 18.06.2024 um 02:44:46 Uhr schrieb Vitold S: > More and more I see that people usually use USB flash drives everyday > and some large companies (like Microsoft) today provide an image with > a USB stick. Most new computers don't have an optical disc drive, customers don't request it and if

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away In which sense would it push you away. I'm not suggesting any change to the ISO files themselves. Only changes to the doc to clarify that these are images that are expected to be used on USB flash dirves (and they also work on

System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 19:40:30 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 18:22:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > You asked after

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Thomas Dineen
No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away On 6/17/2024 6:00 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download? Do you think the time has come? When do

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread jeremy ardley
On 18/6/24 09:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment will happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other > versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary > download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment > will happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine when "burned"

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

2024-06-17 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > >  > Hi, > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > an incognito window by default. > > ... > > - Exec=firefox %u > + Exec=firefox -private-window %u > Assuming that's not a typo, please try: --private-window

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Vitold S wrote: > Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other > versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary > download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment > will happen? Several years ago.

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread eben
On 6/17/24 19:44, Vitold S wrote: Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring away birds or as an intricate amulet on teenagers’ backpacks as a reference to the era of their parents, but not for recording images. Let's say, is this my particular progressive experience, or

CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Vitold S
Good news everyone, Sorry that the question may have already been clarified earlier, but I am not a regular member of the user mailing list, so I ask it again. Every time I download the Debian image, I am faced with a moral disorder and philosophically go on a historical journey into the past,

Re: Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

2024-06-17 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 17 Jun 2024 13:33 -0600, from avelinoheribe...@gmail.com (HERIBERTO AVELINO): > My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian > authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the > root password. I haven't heard of any specific issue like that,

Re: Bookworm: IBM DSD3300 iSCSI connection problem [solved]

2024-06-17 Thread Greg
On 6/17/24 11:04, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 3:41 PM Greg > wrote: Hi there, I'm trying to mount iscsi share exported from old IBM DS3300. Unfortunately I get the following error: ping timeout of 5 secs expired, recv timeout

Re: Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

2024-06-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:33:12PM -0600, HERIBERTO AVELINO wrote: > My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian > authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the > root password. With physical access to the machine and without an encrypted

Re: Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

2024-06-17 Thread eben
On 6/17/24 15:33, HERIBERTO AVELINO wrote: Dear all My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the root password. I accessed the BIOS to enter the safe mode, and discovered that my hard drive is

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

2024-06-17 Thread eben
On 6/17/24 15:29, Pranjal Singh wrote: Hi, I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens an incognito window by default. ... What I've done is changing /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop: - Exec=firefox %u + Exec=firefox -private-window %u I also created a desktop

Modifying Desktop Icons

2024-06-17 Thread Pranjal Singh
Hi, I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens an incognito window by default. I've modified and created .desktop files as per tutorials on the net and rebooted, but it doesn't work. What I've done is changing /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop: - Exec=firefox %u +

Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

2024-06-17 Thread HERIBERTO AVELINO
Dear all My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the root password. I accessed the BIOS to enter the safe mode, and discovered that my hard drive is almost full. I shall not attempt a fresh

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

2024-06-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-06-17 08:26:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On stable: > > $ openssl list -disabled > > Disabled algorithms: > > IDEA > > MD2 > > MDC2 > > RC5 > > SCTP > > SSL3 > > ZLIB > > > > So, SSL3 support was removed at least that long ago. I think it > > was actually

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > The "system" being "on" a timezone is something that, under Unix, > > doesn't make sense. > > Time zones are not in effect for users, either; they're in effect for > processes [...] Right you are. Cheers -- t

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread eben
On 6/17/24 11:36, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: I wonder if Keith's confusion is simply due to my MUA using "AM" and "PM" in its attribution line, and Keith not seeing the "PM". Maybe I should look into configuring that differently. Along

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 18:22:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > > it

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > it it on. Likewise the hardware RTC. The third line of /etc/adjtime > says what

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 18:47:41 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 16 Jun 2024 at 18:13:36 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > > > Some of my aliases stopped working after months of working as I > > > expected. And udating the .bash_aliases

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:36:59 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > /etc/timezone is only used by some legacy programs. All the current > > ones should be using /etc/localtime instead, which is a symlink to a > > binary zoneinfo file,

Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > > it it on. Likewise

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