Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen

2008-08-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:46:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/09/08 00:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] there are several ways to go about this. What you need to do first, I think, is find out which video driver is trying to run that card. Realise that the 8xxx series cards

Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 08:19:14AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-08-09 07:09 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: But emacs I've used for writing code. Not a lot of code, but enough to get the basic stuff wired in. I also use it as a general purpose editor (it's my default editor

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 01:05:56AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/07/08 23:42, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:56:19PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/07/08 20:20, s. keeling wrote: Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:45 -0500, Ron Johnson

Re: local network problem

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:56:40AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello! I am running etch at home in two machines: a desktop and a laptop. Both are connected to the web trough a switch witch is connected to a modem. Both machines work fine regarding the internet. I want to connect both

Re: Using Logitech Quickcam on Debian 4.0

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 01:28:56AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:59:02 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I am running Debian 4.0 on a number of computers (laptop and desktop). I have a Logitech QuickCam

Re: suspend / hibernate

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:44:14AM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Aug 8, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Dale wrote: 2008/8/6 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I have had this problem for a little while now, when I come out of suspend / hibernation on on my Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi laptop I have very high

Re: Using Logitech Quickcam on Debian 4.0

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:25:57PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri August 8 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: man ffmpeg and learn how to capture the audio as well. The very first example in the man page Examples section shows one way to do it. It depends of course on whether the spca

Re: local network problem

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 04:24:17PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:56:40AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello! I am running etch at home in two machines: a desktop and a laptop. Both are connected to the web trough a switch witch

Re: Using Logitech Quickcam on Debian 4.0

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 05:32:40PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri August 8 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: hmmm... I believe its possible, with some cameras, to cat /dev/video0 myvidfile and then play it with mplayer. worth a shot. $ cat /dev/video0paulsvid cat: /dev

Re: Using Logitech Quickcam on Debian 4.0

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri August 8 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: wow. that looks kind of like there might be a problem in the driver. If you can't cat from the video device, then there's something seriously wrong. I highly recommend you

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:00:52PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 06:58 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 03:11:39AM +0200, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I've no trouble with either at the command line. The *curses interface is

Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:26:42PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: 2008/8/1 Star Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm really happy to get so much good suggestions, I will try the following tools one by one, and send my use reports to this mail thread. I feel that the first one I want to try is

Re: Using Logitech Quickcam on Debian 4.0

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 11:37:47AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On Sat, 9 Aug 2008, Shachar Or wrote: there is both a gspca-source and gspca-modules-... packages. IIRC, the spca5xx is being replaced upstream... All this talk about spca... Isn't there a quickcam specific driver? I know there

Re: Router IPv6

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:08:56AM +0700, Zaki Akhmad wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: modprobe ipv6 I can't see anything happens here # modprobe ipv6 I suspect that what Alex is getting at is simple. to use ipv6 you need, at a minimum, to have

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:50:39PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 16:23 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:00:52PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 06:58 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 03:11:39AM

Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:57:44PM -0500, Taahir wrote: I am a fairly new linux user, and have recently installed Debian on its own hard disk in what will eventually become a dual-boot system. The Windows drive is currently not connected, so that isn't a factor. My graphics card is an

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:47:21PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: Quoting Andrew Sackville-West: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 09:07:27PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:00:44PM -0700, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: aptitude makes it easy to plan

Re: Is the monitor ON?

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 02:38:45PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: Quoting mike (mail4mike2008-debian AT yahoo DOT com): Far on the other side of my building at work I have several linux boxes that displays a slide-show on a X screen. When our power blinks the computer will reboot and is fine.

Re: Upgrading necessary, but maybe not

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 06:35:38PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: The Huawei e169 umts usb modem seems to work fine with Debian Sid, kernel 2.6.25-2-686 kernel, but not with my Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.18-4-k7. Now, in order to have the device working, I should upgrade my system to Sid or even

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 04:55:23PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Cousin Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Aug 07 16:38 -0500]: Ditto. I'm sure it's a fine program, but I, too, get lost with the ncurses interface of aptitude Add a ditto onto to the ditto regarding my own

Re: Debian Sid first time user

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 01:23:28AM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: [...] Now for particular needs I want to try to use Sid with a = 2.6.25-2-686 kernel. I edited sources.list as follows: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main deb-src

Re: when debian run out of memory

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 11:18:20AM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote: Hi list, When debian run out of memory, I can only ping the host and can't ssh to the host. It seems oom-killer is running but memory is still exhaust. What should I do then? Only reboot can solve the problem? Can I protect

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:56:19PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/07/08 20:20, s. keeling wrote: Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/07/08 17:14, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Displeasure? Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to

Re: suspend / hibernate

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
... And the other problem I have noticed is that when I come out of suspend or hibernate it does not notice whether I am I am on AC or not and if I am on AC and come out suspend or hibernate it set my HDD power management to 128 instead of 254. not much help, but I configured laptop mode to

Re: 2.6.24-4 kernel not booting

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
older kernels and editing the grub initrd line. A mjh On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 06:36:18PM -0400, Michael Habashy wrote: i appriciate your help. i am not new to linux but i am new to lvm and raid and recovery

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 09:07:27PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:00:44PM -0700, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: aptitude makes it easy to plan the updates How so? I'll bite on this... the simple but powerful interface allows me to quickly browse

possible RAID array failure [was Re: 2.6.24-4 kernel not booting]

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
answer your questions: :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Andrew Sackville-West why do you think this? What evidence tells you this? have you looked at /proc/mdstat? i looked into /proc/mdstat -- it has inactive raids. I have tried to re-correct the problem by removing and adding

Re: suspend / hibernate

2008-08-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 10:07:07AM +0530, Sudev Barar wrote: 2008/8/6 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have had this problem for a little while now, when I come out of suspend / hibernation on on my Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi laptop I have very high system load. I am wondering if any one else has

Re: suspend / hibernate

2008-08-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 12:28:50AM +0930, Dale wrote: Hi all, I have had this problem for a little while now, when I come out of suspend / hibernation on on my Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi laptop I have very high system load. I am wondering if any one else has or noticed this problem. I have been

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:09:34PM +0100, andy wrote: Hi all This is just a general enquiry about the benefits of using Sid on a desktop or a workstation. Aside from obtaining up-to-the-minute software (and related patches), are there any other benefits to using Sid? I am aware of the

Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:00:44PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:09:34PM +0100, andy wrote: Hi all This is just a general enquiry about the benefits of using Sid on a desktop or a workstation. Aside from obtaining up

Re: 2.6.24-4 kernel not booting

2008-08-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 06:36:18PM -0400, Michael Habashy wrote: i appriciate your help. i am not new to linux but i am new to lvm and raid and recovery. if you give me some simple steps, i can follow. i would really like the help because my main ssystem is down. please provide step by step

Re: 2.6.24-4 kernel not booting

2008-08-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 06:36:18PM -0400, Michael Habashy wrote: i appriciate your help. i am not new to linux but i am new to lvm and raid and recovery. if you give me some simple steps, i can follow. i would really like the help because my main ssystem is down. please provide step by step

Re: 64 bit Dual-Core Moron

2008-08-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 09:54:14AM -0700, Account for Debian group mail wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Jeff Soules wrote: What do you mean by up to par? http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/up+to+par I would venture to guess that we understand the expression, but just don't know what

Re: Printing from GIMP

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 01:43:11PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: I recently purchased a new printer and drivers were not available for it in Etch, which I am running. Gutenprint 5.0.2 has the necessary drivers and I compiled it from source and the printer works great. My problem is that

Re: Sometimes only 1 desktop and no window border in KDE

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:54:35PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: On 07/27/2008 10:33 AM, Anton Liaukevich wrote: I have been using Lenny for several weeks yet (with KDE 3.5). For first two week all was Ok but then such a bug appeared: 1) In the KDE panel only one desktop available (but I have 4

Re: pc doesn't start

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 05:03:45PM +0100, Wackojacko wrote: Brian McKee wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Claudius Hubig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lóránd Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and the pc is in a wooden box:D but the connector is grounded, could that be the problem? I have

Re: Synchronize two folders in both way; criteria: last changed

2008-07-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 07:23:46PM +0200, Dvorzhetsky wrote: Hello, First I'll explain the situation: I have an archive folder with images, text and other type of files. I used to backup this folder from time to time but at some point I stop doing that and got confuse (or messy:) and

Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

2008-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:21:23PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫⵪ Paul, is your client hosed, or mine, or something else? The last two emails you sent only showed what is quoted above. On my

Re: networking crash suddenly in my home LAN

2008-07-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:35:31PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed,23.Jul.08, 13:31:13, Csányi Pál wrote: I have at home a small LAN with Debian GNU/Linux Etch boxes. The gateway/router can to access the internet but server and desktop

Suppressing console messages [was Re: x.org]

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 19, 11:30 pm, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please be sure to reply to the list and not to me personally. You will miss out on the wisdom of many more knowledgeable people than me... On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:57:54PM -0600, Cliff McAtee wrote

Re: apt upgrade sarge - etch udev error can't get past it. Ideas?

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:26:45PM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: Hi, I am upgrading an old server to etch to be able to use new sata drives. I followed the release notes. I first did apt-get upgrade then I did apt-get install initrd-tools then i installed linux-image-2.6.18-686

Re: ping

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:05:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/22/08 18:30, Thomas Preud'homme wrote: Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008, Ron Johnson a écrit : On 07/22/08 16:13, Preston Boyington wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: snipped It appears that something blocked my l.d.o email for

Re: Problems getting Etch in France

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:51:07PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:50, Arthur A wrote: I give up. snip Oh to hell with Debian. snip N. Problem solved. The probelm is not solved Arthur A I'm a wanker The problem is that I live in France, and to

Re: 8139cp 0000:03:08.0: This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip

2008-07-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 02:24:46PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: On Monday 21 July 2008 13:27, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,21.Jul.08, 03:55:20, Dominik Dera wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: and the blacklisting won't work if the module is in your initrd! You at least need to run

Re: Problems getting Etch in France

2008-07-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:17:39PM +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: ... Could someone kindly point me to where I can get the base install for Etch, including KDE. I don't mind downloading 4 or 5 iso's if this is necessary. if you don't mind all the downloading, why don't you just download and

Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:39:52AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:23:55AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: [breaking the thread on purpose because this is totally unrelated

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:30:31AM +0100, andy wrote: andy wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: andy wrote: Greetings The following is one of a number of sites (including, for example, parts of the NASA site) where I am told that my version of Flash Player is outdated: You need the latest

Re: [not about debian] Could someone give me a clue about making a window manager?

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 03:25:44PM +0300, Shachar Or wrote: On Sunday 20 July 2008 14:32, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: Any suggestions about which one? DWM? I do not know. You may want to go with those that do not depend on extra libraries to keep things simple; not the ones that are part

Re: [FIXED] Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:01:17PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, you still aren't running the debian version, but instead running the adobe installed version. There's nothing inherently wrong

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:10:08PM -0400, Frank wrote: After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault running (or trying to run) my mail reader Sylpheed. Where to start looking ?? have you logged out and back in yet? restarted X yet? maybe even restarted the machine

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
please reply to the list instead of to me directly. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:22:24PM -0400, Frank wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:10:08PM -0400, Frank wrote: After the latest upgrades to Sid. I am getting a segmentation fault running (or trying to run) my

Re: Glacial ClearWire Download

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 03:24:19PM -0500, Kent West wrote: I'm having to download a lot of data via an aptitude dist-upgrade, and the download process is glacial, pulling down 6Kbs or 90Kbs, dial-up to just-barely-better-than dial-up speeds. I'm using ClearWire, but saw even slower

Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:36:15PM -, Cameron Hutchison wrote: I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems to be busted. At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new

Re: Seg fault

2008-07-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 06:15:27PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: Anders Lagerås wrote: | On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:23:17 -0400 | Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Anders Lagerås wrote: |Bug report on it's way | |What's the easiest way to downgrade? I have never had to do this. |

Re: Loss of Flash Player capabilities in IW3.0

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 08:11:47PM +0100, andy wrote: Greetings The following is one of a number of sites (including, for example, parts of the NASA site) where I am told that my version of Flash Player is outdated: You need the latest Flash Player plugin to view the multimedia content

Re: Device busy, but lsof doesn't help

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:57:42PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/18/08 17:39, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: [snip] To ensure that /data/03 is /dev/sda1. Ah, ok. May be, try lazy unmount? I want to know what's happening. Lazy umount is, to me, distateful except when using network

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen. If you care about your

Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:23:55AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: [breaking the thread on purpose because this is totally unrelated] On Thu,17.Jul.08, 15:28:09, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:27:25PM

Re: x.org

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:07:50PM -0600, Cliff McAtee wrote: Hi my name is Cliff McAtee I am new to Debian. I installed from a disc. Went through the install. every thing looked ok until trying to open. starting from GRUB I was informed x.org did not install correctly. All I get is a

Re: Device busy, but lsof doesn't help

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/19/08 14:30, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:57:42PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/18/08 17:39, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: [snip] To ensure that /data/03 is /dev/sda1. Ah, ok. May be, try

Re: TV tuner/capture cards?

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:51:58PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings; Does anybody know of a tv tuner/capture card that will work with Debian? An FM tuner option would be nice, but not necessary. I use a pvr 150 and a pvr500 from hauppage using the ivtv drivers. Not strictly on debian

Re: x.org

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Please be sure to reply to the list and not to me personally. You will miss out on the wisdom of many more knowledgeable people than me... On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:57:54PM -0600, Cliff McAtee wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:07:50PM -0600, Cliff McAtee wrote

Re: TV tuner/capture cards?

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 09:57:28PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Jul 19 19:46 -0500]: I use the pvr 500 using the ivtv driver and play using mplayer. Works just fine, native debian. I getting ready to jump into MythTV using Mythbuntu. I'm collecting

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Hi All, I'm having a strange problem with a Marvell 88E8056 - 10/100/1000 Controller on a Biostar TA 770 A2+ motherboard. This is an Etch AMD64 install, but I have added the 2.6.25-amd64 kernel as I could not get the

Re: Cannot find /dev/parport0 - ANY SUGGESTIONS?

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:35:23PM -0700, Account for Debian group mail wrote: Hello Again, I just upgraded our print server/samba machine from sarge to etch. In the /var/log/dmesg file i see: parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7

Re: regexp q.

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 09:22:53AM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: ... Besides, Andrew's eyes need time to heal ;) no hope of that. I just need to finally bite the bullet and grok some more regex. The only issue with Florian's now snipped line is that its so daunting I don't know where to start. And

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:36:43PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Hi All, I'm having a strange problem with a Marvell 88E8056 - 10/100/1000 Controller on a Biostar TA 770 A2+ motherboard

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:48:14PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 02:30:42PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:36:43PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: [...] I have two NICs

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:53:25PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: ... These troubleshooting suggestions really don't help explain to me why dhclient would override the settings in /etc/network/interfaces for one NIC and not the other though. And why would it override manual settings?

Re: unable to load ipw2200 module

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 02:59:45AM +0200, oneman wrote: I've got a Dell Latitude D810 and I tried to get the wireless to work. I installed the ipw2200 driver, but get an error in dsmesg: dull:/home/oneman# dmesg | grep ipw ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.0mq

Re: regexp q.

2008-07-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:45:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: ... The insane approach (dedicated to Andrew S-W, who is a great perl aficionado): #! /usr/bin/perl -w #read file open ( FH, test.txt ); $string = FH; close ( FH ); # match and count while ( $string =~

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 07:44:02PM +0100, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: to add to this... it sounds like OP is asking for known good snapshots of lenny to be tagged somehow and frozen until the next known good snapshot comes along. Okay, it's an interesting idea

Re: JRE which openjdk gcj

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 05:35:55PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 05:26:14 pm Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:59:00PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 02:47:06 pm Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM

Re: JRE which openjdk gcj

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:06:08PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2008 02:17:55 pm Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 05:35:55PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 05:26:14 pm Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:59:00PM

Re: JRE which openjdk gcj

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: Hi I have noticed that openjdk has made it into the repo's. Wondering what people thoughts where on openjdk, gij and gcj ? Seems like we have lots of choice, and there might be a chance to see a 64B browser plugin now, but

Re: screen resolution

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:03:46PM +0200, niclas wahlgren wrote: Can't get screen resolution up to 1600x1200. xrandr says: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1280 VGA1 disconnected DVI0 disconnected VGA2 connected 1280x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1280x800 60.0

Re: sudo password visible through ssh command line

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 03:26:58PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:04:31PM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: In sid with key passwordless auth : ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo ls password: password And password is shown

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:11:13PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:36 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: it's a complicated thing that OP proposes, I think. ISTM that it's much easier to realize that testing is a moving target alpha release (complete with security

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 05:28:38PM +0100, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: ... 3) Lets try a medium ground between stable and testing. ... This wouldn't be one more step... as I have already explained! It won't be unstable - testing - alpha - stable... that would be plain stupid. Alpha

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 01:17:44PM -0500, Stackpole, Chris wrote: To be blunt... -Fail- That is not what I have suggested what so ever in any way shape or form. I could re-explain but I won't... you just wasted 8 reading paragraphs of my life listening to you arguing against a suggestion I

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:55:19AM -0500, Kent West wrote: .. I've found that for me, running Sid is less painful than running Testing. AOL that. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 08:31:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/10/08 12:38, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] try a different MUA? This is why IMAP should be the standard

Re: sudo password visible through ssh command line

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:04:31PM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: Hi, In sid with key passwordless auth : ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo ls password: password And password is shown you just confirming I see this behavior as well. Any tip to avoid this ? don't issue sudo commands in an

IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] try a different MUA? This is why IMAP should be the standard mail store, not mboxes in proprietary locations. second that. THe convenience is incredible. Case in point

Re: [Solved] Re: Unable to remove trousers (package!!!)

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:50:33PM +0200, Julian wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:28:39PM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: yes, but it has brought so much joy to others. i even forwarded it to people not on list. :D I have to admit, this quite funny ;) But why the hell, do someone

Re: OT: Energy efficiency difference btw GNU/Linux, Mac MS

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:55:56AM +0100, andy wrote: Hello all As part of my studies I must draw up a spec for providing a hypothetical building with power sourced solely from renewables (solar, PV, wind). This building is an educational establishment for about 20 people using

Re: Why do you add spaces to your url links?

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 03:14:44AM +, T o n g wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:07:06 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: http://i37. tinypic .com/2d9y07o.jpg (without space) That totally defeats the purpose of having hyperlinks. please post back the actual url, without space of course.

Re: [Solved] Re: Unable to remove trousers (package!!!)

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:09:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/08/08 17:25, stabbyjones wrote: the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. He's the one who wants to talk about taking off his trousers... Norm: oooh ouch Sammy:what's the matter Norm! Norm:my

Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 11:33:39AM -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: Chris Davies wrote: Barclay, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you just copy the text and paste it into a message? Follows. Notice that even the text/plain part is base64 encoded. Thanks. (And thanks to others

Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:41:57PM -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 11:33:39AM -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: ... P.S. How do I change my debian-user subscription to have the mailing list server send me a copy of my own posts

Re: How to create qemu-bootable image using debootstrap?

2008-07-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:18:22AM -0700, David Barrett wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 11:34:52PM -0700, David Barrett wrote: Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 09:00:38PM -0700, David Barrett wrote: David Barrett wrote: What's the best way to create a raw disk

Re: Xen. Ohm ohm

2008-06-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:26:56AM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: I feel so dirty. I am using vmworkstation because at the time I wanted to learn Linux server things, not vm things. Now I am looking at Xen and it seems interesting. However, I am having a hard time on finding good info (I

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:51:25AM -0700, Adam Hardy (debian) wrote: [snipped tales of woe regarding mixed systems] I have a 5 year-old system hosted on Xen by a hosting company, which I only use for Java and mysql - currently it's running Woody and being slap-dash, I tried to install a

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:01:59AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started with wmii, played with some others, and then stumbled on xmonad and got hooked. to each their own. Just like vimperator... tried

Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:04:52PM +0100, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote: On 19/06/08 22:34, Mark Allums wrote: Ivan Glushkov wrote: Hi all, I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility to install xmms? If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered

Re: cut and paste with the screen program

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:21:46AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 05:34:17PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: Hi, I'm using screen. (So I can have many terminals in one text-console). How can I cut and paste between screen terminals? (using the keyboard) I'm totally

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 05:16:47PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: A, On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: if you decide to investigate other minimalist WM's you might look at xmonad. It's all keyboard controlled, tiled with a variety of customizable tiling layouts. pretty fun

minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:38:42PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: Nuno, On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Nuno Magalhães wrote: The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are not desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and do not rely upon Java. This rules out a lot of text editors.

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