On Fri, 30 Sep 2016, Stefan Monnier wrote:
dist-upgrade doesn't happen automatically. So yes, you can add the
above and then do something like
I appended this to my sources.list:
deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
and then ran:
# apt-get update
I kept rer
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Whenever I don't find the pacakge I want in Debian's
repository, I typically grab the upstream source code and
build it myself.
Yes, me too. I was able to build 23.4 from source, and this
appeared to solve the choking-on-old-elisp while byte-compilin
I have a need for an emacs older -- in terms of major version
number -- than the ver. 24.4.1 currently onboard my i686 Jessie
system. I suspect anything of ver. 23.n.n vintage would suit my
purpose, which is to avoid ver 24's fussiness about older elisp
code in a -- non-Debian -- package I am n
Oh Lord I don't have time for this.
Look, I thought I'd take a shot in the dark to see if just maybe
someone who knew what psgmlx was might see my Subject: and drop
into help mode instead of wounded pride mode: "That Bernstein
fellow hurt my feelings because he asked about something about
whi
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Greg Wooledge wrote:
cme=command not found.
I know nothing about this "cme" either.
Yes. Qu'est-que "cme?"
Some esoteric breed of editor?
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Eduardo Quagliato wrote:
google-chrome-stable: Google's package, with its proprietary
software in it (like flash and other things alike);
chromium: Open-source project from which Google drawn its
source (refer to http://www.chromium.org/);
Thanks. Concise. I think I get it
I haven't posted a question from the far left end of the
bell-shaped curve in some time, so please bear with me!
In respect of my Subject: line, above, I have the first of those
two packages installed.
How does it differ from the second, which I do not have
installed?
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Jiri wrote:
Any advise? Am I missing any packages?
Not sure:
--- begin fyi ---
$ apt-cache show strongswan
Package: strongswan
Version: 5.2.1-6+deb8u2
Installed-Size: 161
Maintainer: strongSwan Maintainers
Architecture: all
Depends: strongswan-charon, strongswan-start
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
It was meant to be a hyperlink to my post in the archives,
Ah...dawn breaks over Narragansett Bay!
I was clearly too tired and should just have quoted
:(
Take care of yourself!!
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moment by som
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
<201606210831.24319.lisi.re...@gmail.com>
Need a bit of help here. What am I supposed to do with this line
of um text?
If there is an elegant method that will use it as a starting
point such that I end up looking at the email to which you are
referri
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Felix Miata wrote:
In summary, 16x32 at a lower screen resolution translates to a
bigger glyph on any given display.
Thanks. That comports with my feeble cogitations. I'll give her
a whirl.
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On Thu, 21 May 2015, Bob Bernstein wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
It's probably a good idea to have the firmware packages
installed, I think these are used to handle throttling to make
sure it doesn't overheat.
As can be seen, when we last left Bob he was stu
Sorry...sent this first using an incorrect -- for debian-user --
account. Bah.
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
It's probably a good idea to have the firmware packages
installed, I think these are used to handle throttling to make
sure it doesn't overheat.
As can be seen, when w
On Thu, 19 May 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Doesn't being old _suck_?
Word dat.
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So I need static IPs fast! or a hosts file?
That's how I do it. Only make that "or" above an "and!"
Also, liberal use of public-keys practically automates the whole
thing, so that you don't have to bother with pesky passwords on
your private 'net.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016, Joel Roth wrote:
cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/40nosuggestrecommends
Apt::Install-Suggests false;
Apt::Install-Recommends false;
Nice. Done. Thanks.
I had reason a couple of nights ago to consult 'man apt-get'
because it seemed that lots of "suggested" pkgs were being
installe
Sorry about the apparent attribution to Lisi in my last post.
Even though the crowsfeet ('>') were absent from the post, it
must be adjudged wrong by any decent standard.
Can I have a last cigarette before disposition of sentence? It's
been over fifteen years now.
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On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Andreas Weber wrote:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/
is maybe what you've been looking for.
Iirc, that changes fonts only in the displayed page, not in the
menus, dialogs, etc.
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everyone
who chimed in, and a tip 'o the hat to Don!
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On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Nate Bargmann wrote:
...I am using Emacs -nw to type this message calling it from
Mutt and running in Xfce Terminal and Alt-X. etc, works just
fine.
Interesting. Hrrrmmm...so perhaps I can set up Alt as Meta in
the configuration of the terminal I use in X?
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understanding (Meta == Alt) evaporates. Perhaps I need to set
something specific in my .emacs for the minibuffer?
I've got amd64 Jessie running without systemd and icewm for X.
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745 for Debian lists.)
Well, it certainly is not immediately obvious.
Thank you. (I meant to say, "...this is _my_ Big Dummy Question
#3,745..." I like to say this because I know there are
subscribers whose fear of appearing dumb keeps them from
posting. Mine doesn't!)
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amd64 Jessie running icewm here w/o systemd.
I know how to tweak font sizes for displayed web pages, but how
do I do that for the apparatus of the browser window itself?
(By my count this is Big Dummy Question #3,745 for Debian
lists.)
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016, Steve Matzura wrote:
Hope I was right!
What was your choice? Inet or standalone?
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that if it's okay with _everyone_ around here.
Its no wonder that people like me get accused of walking on
water, we are a dying breed.
d00D! You nailed it!
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e in order.
They too serve who just like to stand around and kibbitz.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015, John Hasler wrote:
John "Permits? We don't need no stinkin permits." Hasler
Reminds me of "Don't RTFM! Wing that sucker!"
Haven't heard/seen that in a long time.
And I have to say, this electrical stuff is a lot sexier than
poopy linux stuff!
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http://www.wolframalpha.com is fun.
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individualistic ways. Right now 'tho there is a strong feeling
abroad in the land, as they used to say, that either we stick
together, or hang separately...
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In many ways we are not a very admirable species. I don't really
like people, as a group. Some of them, taken individually are
just dandy. but as a group -- feh. Which makes it all the more
difficult to do justice to them, which they need, and which we
need to attempt.
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27;d google the goshdarn
thing!
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Gene: I'm unfamiliar with the term "mailfile." Can you expand a
tad on that? Q'est-ce que?
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ample_.)
Also, run 'fetchmail --version' for debugging info.
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likes being
*told* what to do.
And, yes, there is something sophomoric about plonking someone
but telling them about it first. In the Usenet heydays of
killfiles, that was not as a rule how it was done.
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Dan Ritter wrote:
Plonk*.
Sigh. Another satisfied customer.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(Usenet)
FWIW, I didn't need the wikipedia reference. I've been plonked
in classier joints than this!
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Woah. Calm down a bit.
That made you uncomfortable a little bit Tomas, huh? Please try
to deal with it before issuing instructions to me. I'm not here
for your comfort, iydm.
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ebian listadmins.
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#x27;
pieces, then I could understand not feeling comfortable when
someone does that in an email reply.
Yes, point well taken.
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015, anxious...@gmail.com wrote:
If I bottom posted at work, no-one would ever discover my
replies. I occasionally interleave if a point by point
response seems sensible, or if the joke only works that way
Word dat.
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rds of factuality! What sort
of horrible person are you?"
I'm guessing your nephew isn't subscribed to any mailing
lists.
I doubt it.
Would I be correct in that he uses Windoze and outhouse as a
mailer?
He uses a gmail account with "Ipad Mail".
Oh well. Thanks Chris.
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; with me and
my pompous internet posing!
I have to think about this a bit more because I am starting to
have it UP TO HERE with him just writing this message!
Thanks all. I knew I could find cooler heads here than in my
family.
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and bottom posting styles. I don't see any a priori need to
impose moral equivalence on these different styles.
Hmmm...I don't seem to be exactly neutral on this question. Oh
well.
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better label) one, say, that perhaps
has achieved the status of a "net classic?" Surely some 'net
genius has dealt these nay-sayers, who seem to LIKE top-posting,
a solid uppercut?
Thanks,
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I think alpine should refuse to use an expired cert. Hmmm...
Perhaps I should query the alpine list on that point?
_Or_, perhaps I should re-dedicate myself to learning about
smime
and stop expecting that, if I make enough tweaks, it will "just
work."
Oh well, Thanks all,
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f the Debian Social Contract permitted wagering, I would stack
a few chips that your answer to that would be "no."
FULL DISCLOSURE: I haven't taken a look at my smime config here
on alpine in quite some time...
Thanks,
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I believe the poster is trying to sign his messages with
smime. My fairly recent version of alpine 2.20 tells me that his
messages bear a "cryptographic signature," but that those
signatures cannot be "verified."
Please allow me to do the samd, i.e. sign with smim
to barely scratch the surface, but for now I am going to stand
pat and hope for the best.
Thanks,
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e -bg black -geometry x26 -fa 'Deja vu Sans Bold'
-fs 24
(I've since changed to Luxi Mono just as a test of sorts.)
===> Has anyone EVA seen text file characters in an editor just
change before their eyes without any intervention from the
operator?
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On Mon, 7 Sep 2015, Stephen Powell wrote:
I just finished updating my web page to reflect the new
information. Once again, go to
http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/serial.htm
What a great contribution!
My null-modem cable ought to still be around here somewhere!
:-)
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015, David Wright wrote:
Did you type the ^] ? But the ball's in your court—say hello.
Type:
ehlo summat
I get:
ehlo debian
250-boris.fuzzywuzzy.com
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 2048
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8BITMIME
250 DSN
Hmmm...I
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015, Martin Smith wrote:
You might find more answers at www.postfix.org, they also have
a very good mailing list, which I can recommend
No doubt a very good idea; thanks.
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age:
http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html
Extra-Credit question: why does debian ship postfix with an empty
/etc/postfix/sasl directory?
Thanks,
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sed my way thru some of this stuff:
To make the raw disk:
1.# qemu-img create myimage.img 12G
To make the vm:
2. # qemu-system-x86_64 -boot d -cdrom cd57.iso myimage.im
To launch my new vm:
3. # qemu-system-x86_64 myimage.img
Comments/corrections/excoriations are welcome!
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stupid
planet the occasional blessing cannot possibly be misplaced.
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My experience of virtualization has been with Vmware "player"
running on Windows. This is, for me, rather neat since I can
easily create instances of *bsd flavors from the relevant
install iso's.
I need advice on how to do this on Jessie. What Debian
virtualization packages do people like? I g
driving
while intoxicated, which I *imagine* to be a more serious
offense than spelling boo-boos, but then Lord knows I am not
an attorney, that is just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Cobra wrote:
I am new to this,
This list is particularly welcoming to newbies.
I don’t subscribe to the list itself
Um...pray tell, why not?
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this very
moment, but there is no xorg.conf file per se anywhere to be
found on this machine. There is a thing, a collection of
other ".conf" files in fact, installed under
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, but none of them appear to treat
of keyboards and their vicissitudes.
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either i386 or amd64? I went looking the other night ALL over
ftp.debian.org and could not find any.
Then again my eyes are not what they used to be...
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Mike Castle wrote:
One handed Dvorak keyboard mappings.
Thank you for handling that query Mike. Didn't wanna go near it meeself.
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Again, I am struck by how much of this advice (and it's good advice, _if_
you can find such a server) seems to point directly back to Lavabit and
its fate.
But I can tell ya this: if they want my lotion 'n tissues they'll have to
pry them out of my c
of the room); is this all a porn thing?
One is reminded of what happened to Usenet...
Ok...thx!
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On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
To use my fixed address methods, which are officialy
discouraged by the list police...
And what, exactly, pray tell, do those august
personages ("the list police") preach? Something tells
me that what you jocularly term "my fixed address
methods" are
I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. The
current developer pretty much "lives" there, and there
is a nice group of subscribers. They talk about this
kind of question all the time.
https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
Much of this discussion reminds me of an old Monty
Python skit ending with the line "Lucky we didn't
say anything about the dirty knife". :)
I don't recall that bit, but then NO ONE EXPECTS THE
SPANISH INQUISITION!
Recently I checked out the price of
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, John Hasler wrote:
Systemd-timesyncd is not a replacement for Ntpd or
Chrony. It is just an SNTP client similar to that
used by Microsoft. It queries a single server and
does no error checking or authentication.
Basically, it replaces a cron job running Ntpdate.
A ver
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
The question was:
"What package contains the time daemon?"
It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to
the question actually asked, was "ntp".
You are (again) stunningly correct Lisi. I don't seem
to have been able to stay focussed on "the que
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Michael Biebl wrote:
Yes. You actually need to do that. As long as ntp is
installed, systemd-timesyncd won't start.
I'd like to suggest that if I were a vindictive,
morally shallow person I would be rushing back into
this thread to point out: "Oh look! Another reason why
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, The Wanderer wrote:
This is bordering on code-of-conduct
questionability.
I'm glad to hear that. I can see that my work here is
done.
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'loony' merely because I have a pet halibut? I've heard
tell that Sir Ge
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Iain M Conochie wrote:
No. This is an incorrect response.
Really?
Um...your own homework, below, suggests that ntp is
not the only package that performs the task in
question. Since ntpdate does not depend on ntp, then I
have to say, simply REALLY!
apt-cache search
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
ntp
No. This is an incorrect response.
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
Back when I was working as a Chief Engineer/Chief
Operator/Chief BOFH, that happened to much of my
operating staff once, until he got to me.
The devil made me do it! Honest! He's sitting right
here next to me! Hey Mr. Devil, you wanna type a few
word
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
Just the same, you caught me on one thing. the full
user name is the full email address and I was just
using martin.m.
Full disclosure: that wasn't me. It seems an admirable
young fellow name of Curt brought that to your
attention.
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2015, Dan Ritter wrote:
I find that a bizarre attitude.
I'm so sorry. I hope the experience was not too
uncomfortable for you. Please forgive me. I have many
personal shortcomings, and frequent descents into
bizarro-world figures prominently in any comprehensive
list of them
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015, Bob Bernstein wrote:
Then, if you have success you will at least know you
are using the correct credentials (username,
password) for your smtp server, which assurance you,
and the rest of us, are currently lacking.
At some point in this process try using your POP
I almost forgot:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/msmtp.1.html
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-
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
# Set a default account
account default
auth on
from marti...@suddenlink.net
protocol smtp
port 587
Believe it or not, this is the closest I have
gotten to making anything work.
Above, where it says 'auth on' make that say
auth off
Then fir
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
Yes but depending on how your path is set it may not
simply work.
NO.
There ought to be no monkeying EVA with the default
PATHs (for root and other users) created by the
authors of Linux and Unix. Period. (Which is why the
wheel group ought t
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Hans wrote:
If you know a little bit about the range of the
network (i.e. if you know at least , it is
192.168.), then you might try to scan the IP with a
direct connection to the network card.
Try nmap (either from a separate computer with a
crossover cable) on the c
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, David Wright wrote:
I think you're better off forgetting about ifconfig
and using ip in its place;
Ach du Lieber Himmel! You will have to pry ifconfig
out of my cold dead fingers!
that's the direction things are heading.
Of course David I am no one to gainsay your ty
asked be to dragged
through any of the corners of my mind, let alone that
one. I apologize for taking advantage of you good
people.
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Still, at $59/device - who's going to buy enough of
the things to instrument all of their plants - maybe
a garden plot, though.
Reinhard Heydrich famously detested all plants:
"The silly things will rat out their own families just
for some extra wa
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
If I hope to send mail through smtp.suddenlink.net,
it must see marti...@suddenlink.net plus the
password also used to retrieve pop3 mail and the
retrieval does work.
Does your MUA set "From:" to marti...@suddenlink.net,
and also set the envel
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, David Wright wrote:
dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587'
Syntax is correct. I've not tried that port. Must do
so sometime.
I think we're learning here in this thread to avoid
generalizations, but 587 is known as the "submit"
port. I have had good luck with it.
Th
Maybe it's me; I'm not as spry as I used to be, but I
am having difficulty following you.
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587'
That looks fine to me, if the syntax for specifying a
port is correct for exim (I simply don't know one way
or t
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
The job now is to get the out-bound
authentication to work to the smtp server.
what do you put in exim's config as the name of your
smarthost?
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
I don't really understand. Are you saying Lisi is a
"militant"?
Let's suppose that:
1) my pasting that label ("militant") on her was a
gross error, totally undeserved.
Let's further suppose that:
2) perhaps in a minor fit of pique I had become
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Agreed. FWIW I do agree with you 100% -- I just
wanted to raise some compassio/understanding for the
"perpetrators" (I'm probably one of them many
times).
Oh no Tomas, compassion and understanding go right out
the window when a militant's vital s
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, John D. Hendrickson wrote:
but ALL DAMN DAY every day it got IP attacks
purportedly from china.
It's of course still like that out there, ALL DAMN
DAY, the Wild West, Main St., Dodge City, only it's
mostly (I think) SSH brute force attempts. I show
skeptical friends my l
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
Lisi Reisz writes:
As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though
your username is wrong.
I don't know whether to feel stupid or joyful.
You get to feel both at the same time. Enjoy!
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
I am trying to get a debian squeeze system to
pull mail from my cable provider's pop3 server.
Is there a special reason you do not post your
.fetchmailrc file?
Or, the output of 'fetchmail --version'?
And, you have given one or two looks at t
plenty of takers.
The Newton resident (Miles) knows whereof he speaks.
Bob Bernstein NSHS '62
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2015, Marc D Ronell wrote:
For the class, the participants will need access to
GNU/Linux. After reviewing some options, including
sdf.org...
FWIW, sdf.org is a NetBSD operation.
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2015, Marc D Ronell wrote:
I am working toward teaching a free introductory
class to teens on GNU/Linux and the philosophy of
free software at the Newton Free Library in MA this
coming September.
Oh my, that is a tantalizing menu! GNU/Linux
AND philosophy!
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